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Stefon Diggs VS Harrison Twins

ok guys... I've finally got a little time and feel the need to tell you guys why I think the twins are more important than Diggs.

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First my thoughts on Diggs. He's a GREAT player, a GREAT Maryland player. A play maker and a 5 star football recruit at a skill position. We've probably never gotten a recruit of this magnitude in football... ever. But say Diggs commits. What are the chances other big time in state recruits follow in the upcoming years? Better for sure, but I don't think it's a slam dunk by any means. The team would have to impress in Edsalls second season or we'll be right back to square one. Diggs is also only ONE guy. One guy out of 11 on the offensive side of the ball and one guy out of 22 on both sides of the ball, not counting special teams.

I understand the Booth and Walt comparisons, but in football one guy isn't as big as it is in basketball. It's a lot harder to convince people to join one other guy in an 11 man offense. In basketball it's so much different. One guy can be the difference between a NCAA tourney second round loss or the final four. Which brings me to the Harrison twins.

Imagine getting two of the top 10 high school players to play on your 5 man team. These guys play offense and defense. It's possible they could be on the floor for 30 minutes a game each. It's one thing to have two top ten guards that have been friends since grade school playing for your team, but an entirely different thing when they are twins. These guys were probably playing one-on-one in the womb! They know exactly what each other is going to do, well before they do it. There have been several bigs that were twins: Plumlees, the dudes that played for Stanford back in the day. But it is not the same. Twin guards! The fast break would be like free throws. People are saying if we don't get the Harrison twins well get two other top 30 guards. This is great, but it's NOT the same. These kids are 6'5" guards that are TWINS! Ok, I think I've made my point.

While I think Diggs would be HUGE for the football program, I do not think he puts Maryland in a BCS game. I do however, think the Harrison Twins can WIN a national championship at Maryland. And I think they WILL.

Harrison Twins>Diggs

Now go vote :)

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Who would you rather have commit to Maryland? (assuming you can only pick one)
Stefon Diggs
95 votes
Harrison Twins
410 votes

505 votes | Poll has closed

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Great post, rq...

…interesting debate question!!!

by curterp on Feb 10, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Without question, its the Harrison twins for me

2>1 … especially when you’re talking about basketball vs football. Where, as you point out, one (or two) players has more of an impact on the game than one player does in football.

by T Free on Feb 9, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

I agree but

It all liklihood it will be 3 seasons of Diggs > 2 (cumulative) with twins.

Impact is clearly bigger in basketball

by KHemer on Feb 10, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Harrison twins, and its not even close

I’m not a fan of MD football, never have been and never will be. So, I’m obviously biased in this situation.

But, the Harrison twins vault MD to Final Four, National Championship contention in 2013-14.

Diggs to MD would be great for the football team, but there is no way MD wins or even gets close to national championship contention in the near future.

by aholla30 on Feb 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

Agree.....

I don’t really care too much about Maryland football so this is an easy choice for me.

One player won’t make that big of a difference on a football team…it will help but it doesn’t mean that Maryland will suddenly be a great team with him (It could possibly help land other recruits in the future but it isn’t guaranteed)……

However 2/5 of the starting line-up on a basketball team (especially 2 Top 10 2013 players) instantly makes you a national championship contender… assuming they aren’t busts in college which I don’t see.

by TurtleShel716 on Feb 9, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Diggs, and it's not particularly close

We’ll be fine in basketball with the Harrisons or without them. It’d be awesome to get them, but we get ‘em for one year and even if we don’t, then we end up with Sheed and Stan or some other perfectly acceptable pairing.

If we miss on Diggs, there is no replacement. There’s no almost-as-good player waiting on the horizon. Get him, and the program may well change.

by Ben Broman on Feb 9, 2012 8:19 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

MAY

ill take MAY win a national title over MAY change the program :)

by rquidas on Feb 9, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ben, "We'll be fine in basketball"??

Since when do we settle for fine???

Maybe we really are lowering expectations since 2008 :(

by T Free on Feb 9, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

"Fine" in the sense that we can still achieve our logical ceiling without the twins

The same is not true for football. Diggs doesn’t only help us get to our ceiling; he blows it open.

by Ben Broman on Feb 9, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

It sets the stage for next years...

recruiting. It could very well open the flood gates.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 9, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Diggs really that good??

Is he better than Torrey Smith, who I thought was spectacular and has already made quote a splash in he NFL in his rookie season?

by Terpmenacestan on Feb 9, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Diggs is certainly better coming out of highschool

Ofcourse nobody really knows if he’ll wind up being better than Torrey, but the hope is that he would do more for this program than Torrey ever could (not a shot at Torrey)

by T Free on Feb 9, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

WAY better coming out of HS

Torrey was a QB and hella raw. Diggs is much more refined and more athletic.

Torrey was also one of the smartest and hardest-working kids in Maryland football history. Not sure if Diggs will match that.

by Ben Broman on Feb 9, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I voted for the twins because of the way the question was worded.

I’m more of a hoops guy. But based on the current trajectory of the two programs, getting Diggs is more important to the football program than getting the twins for the basketball program. Ben’s point is a valid one: there are viable, nearly-as-good alternatives to the twins (Sheed and Stan), plus we have time to pursue those alternatives.
I look at it this way: As recently as 3 months ago…after finishing a 2-10 season, did anyone on the board REALLY believe the football program could land a 5-star skill player? To make that kind of progress in 90 days is > HUGE!!!

by curterp on Feb 10, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess the bottom line

Is which you believe is more likely to happen:
Harrison twins leading bball to a final four, or
Diggs opening the flood gates for football

For me, i believe the twins have a better shot at getting us there than other recruits (Jordan, etc.) do… and i also believe that is more likely than Diggs blowing things wide open

by T Free on Feb 9, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

When he says fine...

…what he means is losing the Harrison twins doesn’t end our chances for Final Four appearances, or national championships.

Basketball can find lots of spectacular players. There is a wealth of good to great players who want to play for Maryland basketball. Football has to take every one it can get its hands on. They are much more rare there.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 9, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

How often is one college football recruit a program changer though?

Can you name any?

It is much more likely to happen in college basketball, and getting the twins could take us from a top 15-20 program to a top 5 program immediately.

Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony, Greg Oden, Derrick Rose, and many others all came into college as freshman and took their schools from good to great.

I think the twins could do the same.

by aholla30 on Feb 9, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

"Program-changer" is a relative term

Diggs isn’t a program-changing for Ohio State, and the Harrison Twins would be a program-changer for, say, Villanova. But I don’t think they’re a program-changer for Maryland basketball – MD basketball should be elite and getting the Harrison twins wouldn’t cause Maryland to be elite again so much as be a sign that they are. The same isn’t true for Maryland football, and if Diggs can be the catalyst that leads into commitments from guys like Tabor, Breneman, O’Daniel, Allen, and Fuller, that’s of much more value to me.

FWIW, I’ve already written both the “Diggs commits to MD” and “Diggs commits elsewhere” posts, and the first leads off with this question: is there such a thing as a program-changer in football? I don’t think so, but I do think Diggs is very close to one.

by Ben Broman on Feb 9, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Out of curiosity

Which did you write first, to MD or to elsewhere?

by T Free on Feb 9, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

What good is one guy if the rest of the team is mediocre?

One person can add spark to a mediocre basketball team…look at Stogs. Where would the Terps be if he wasn’t on the team? He’s 1/5 of the team and almost half their offensive output. Diggs on the other hand is 1/11 of the team assuming he comes and has to rely on the other 10 for him to accomplish anything.

by DudleyDoright on Feb 10, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Just like in basketball,

someone like Diggs can make other players better. Defenses are going to have to key on (double-team) Diggs…leaving someone else open.

by curterp on Feb 10, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Diggs would be our Sammy Watkins

Even though he has his own skill set slightly different from SW.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Feb 10, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Diggs can have the same impact for us as Watson did for Clemson

Plus, who knows how many big time locals he recruits over his 3-4 years here. Stefon, come join your GC teammates. Pleeeeaaaasssseeee!!!!!

by Snappin Terp on Feb 9, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

concur

"It’s hard to be good. It’s easy to not be good." -Coach Turgeon

by wittcap79 on Feb 9, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think...

one will effect the other. LOL

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 9, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

Correct me if I'm wrong here

But aren’t top football recruits more likely to be busts than top basketball recruits? If you look at the last few top 100 classes, it looks like more of the top football recruits didn’t pan out compared to the top basketball recruits. Stefon diggs has the potential to be an amazing player( and I personally think he will be), but the Harrison twins just seem to have all star written all over them

by Verycooldude9 on Feb 9, 2012 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

Yes

College basketball recruiting is a more scientific process than football.

Football doesn’t have an AAU-type system that basketball does. It’s much easier to rank high school basketball players when they’re playing against all the top players in the country. In football, you don’t have that, so its tougher to judge.

by aholla30 on Feb 9, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Mathmatically, I would take 40% of the BBall team vs. <5% of the football team

But there are many other considerations which may come along with signing Stefon. I voted for the Harrisons, but I think this issue is too close to call. Both are very important for the future of Terp athletics.

by Snappin Terp on Feb 9, 2012 8:44 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Twins and it's not close

Because getting the twins is a huge F-U to Cal. I’d much rather say F-U to Cal than Urban Meyer or Chizik.

by oriolekid on Feb 9, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Sweeeeet

I would LOVE to stick it to that used car salesman/wanna be basketball coach/proven cheater/banner ripper downer Calipari!!!!

by drock313 on Feb 9, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta go w Ben on this one

I take diggs because I might be the only one on here that actually thinks landing Jordan and Robinson would do more for the bball program than the twins. A Philly and nova/dc/pg county connection is much much better than a Texas connection. Not to mention that both Jordan and Robinson are top 40 players.

Diggs has the potenial to be Sammy Watkins. I’ll take that…. And I’m not even a big md football fan

by Charlotte NC Terp on Feb 9, 2012 9:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Not you Charlotte..

you must be drinking some different Kool Aid :) lol

by rquidas on Feb 9, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

Thats how much I like Jordan and Robinson. Think they would make better contributions to the Terps.

by Charlotte NC Terp on Feb 9, 2012 9:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What is it about Jordan and Robinson's game that you like moreso than the Twins as far as being a better fit?

By the way thanks for your post you’ve done on these guys. So your saying the pipelines would be better what specifis about their games? Do you see strengths and weakness when you compare them?

by terpsontop on Feb 9, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Twins – both 6’5 200/210 lbs
Andrew – pure PG. He is a flat out stud at distributing the ball. Scoring… ehhh. A good comparison would be to Kendal Marshall. Probably a little bit more athletic.
Aaron – Flat out scorer. Can shoot from long distance. I really like his game

Jordan – 6’3 180 – Currently ranked as the 6th best PG. HE WILL move up to the 2nd or 3rd best PG. He is better than Nate Britt. He has more of a Nate Britt game though than Andrew. He is more of a balanced PG. I wouldnt consider him as a Kendall Marshall because he can light it up scoring. More of a Jay Williams type game…(as much as I hate him).

Robinson – 6’4 175 – I said it before and I’m sticking with it. Rip Hamilton. Robinson has a PURE mid range game. MD’s best and ONLY mid range player is Sean Mosley. Stoglin shoots 3’s or takes it to the rim. Faust attacks the rim. Layman/Allen – from what ive seen and heard are long range shooters. MD needs a player with a strong Mid Range game in order to take it to the next level. This is that player.

Intangibles – MD’s backyard. While the twins have family in the area, Robinson & Jordan reside between 15 mins and 2.5 hours from Campus. The Philly connection has NEVER been established… I cant imagine a better way to build a Philly connection than to start with a player labeled as “The Prince of North Philly.” Depending on how the services label Robinson (school vs. where he resides) he will be a top 3 player in MD. Britt, Anya, and then Robinson… he is that good.

How long will they stay…. thats up for debate. I would think the odds of Jordan and Robinson staying for atleast 3 years are higher than the twins. The twins will do very well early and I think that there will be preasure to leave after their sophmore year. Championships are won TYPICALLY with teams that have mostly veteran players.

Im thrilled with either option but I personally think Jordan and Robinson will be a better long term for the program.

by Charlotte NC Terp on Feb 10, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually agree...

…the twin thing is a dynamic that could be good, or bad. They both commit, and they both could de-commit. Being sol because one player de-commits, is one thing, being sol because two players simultaneously de-commit is quite another. Suppose one gets playing time, and the other doesn’t? Suppose one wants to transfer? I can think of tons of complications just because they are twins.

If we get the twins, fine. If we don’t, I will not weep.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 9, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t think either one is going to have a problem with playing time. If they de-commit it won’t be b/c of that.

"It’s hard to be good. It’s easy to not be good." -Coach Turgeon

by wittcap79 on Feb 9, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Decommit

This was based on the assumption that each player committed and played. Diggs could decommit as well, so I think that should be taken out of the equation.

by rquidas on Feb 9, 2012 11:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Well

if they verbal in spring, the signing period is April 11-May 16. I assume they would sign right away, so there shouldn’t be any worries about it. Unless the twins pull a T Jones, which is one of the most bizarre bball commit/decommit/commits I’ve ever seen.

FBall – well, that’s a zoo compared to bball.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Feb 10, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean we had great WRs before and didn't do much...

even though the team was fun to watch. I’m talking about when Darius Heyward-Bey and Torrey Smith. All we did was beat Nevada and East Carolina in some crappy bowl. With the twins we are CONTENDERS. We get them and we may be able to get 5 star recruits on the yearly basis. Plus this is a basketball school. I don’t mind a 9-10 win team every year in football.

by ATLredskin on Feb 9, 2012 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

Consider this

Harrisons for 1 yr could actually be a WORSE get than Rysheed & Stan (or similar) for 4 years. With that in mind DIGGS.

by Sephtical on Feb 9, 2012 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

In terms of future recruiting Diggs

in terms of impact from those choices only, Twins.

by Maryland1206 on Feb 9, 2012 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

Dear God, Not Even Close

Give me Diggs or give me death for Maryland football.

Give me the Harrison twins, of course I am far more than pleased, but the success of a program and coach does not ride on their shoulders.

by OldLineLeader on Feb 9, 2012 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

I can't lie, I'm loving envisioning Diggs in the Shellmet running all over the ACC, but...

I’d have to go with the Twins, if I had to pick. Being 2 of the Top 10 in the nation, notwithstanding, you also have to factor in their experience playing with Shaq. They come in from day one, knowing how to work with the big fella. I’m not much of a sports bettor, but if we land the twins, I’m taking a G and putting it on the Terps winning a Natty within 2 years. I don’t think they will be a 1-and-done, Papa has already stated that. The Twins with Shaq, Layman and Len…could perhaps be UMD’s most overall talented team of all time. I want to experience THAT!!!

by 1 proud terp on Feb 9, 2012 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

That starting 5 lineup just blew my mind. If we had that with Faust, Allen, and Pankey coming off the bench we’d be dirty. Top 15 team for sure and we’d definitely have a shot at the final four.

STOGS 4 PREZ!!!

by TKPK TERP on Feb 9, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It's the Harrisons for me by a WIDE margin...

Stefon Diggs is incredible, without a doubt but does he play QB? IF we were talking about the #1 QB in the country (Winston, Kiel) I think its a valid argument but Diggs plays a position that requires others to get him the ball. The Harrisons??? Gonna touch it on every possession and dominate BOTH ends.

RQ you are right on here, these kids would be 40% (40%!!!) of our players on court where Diggs is only 4.5% (for all you stat guys like me). I understand completely the guys saying give me Jordan, Robinson, AND Diggs over Harrisons and nobody but I really don’t think Stefon is gonna help us win a NATIONAL TITLE like I think the Harrisons WILL. No disrespect to Stefon, Rysheed, or Stanford of course but give me those twins and a Natty!!!

by drock313 on Feb 9, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Diggs

He could literally open the floodgates and be the man who helped turn MD into a legit football program. If MD was a powerhouse program it would benefit the school, the state, and the area more then we can imagine. Obviously he cant do this alone, but he can be the first man in and if he does others will follow. Bball recruits will always come. Someone has to be the first for football, and hes ridiculously good

by BigLevadelphia on Feb 9, 2012 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

I say Both, but that's too easy

Part ONE:
The truth is that Diggs is extremely important to our football program at this point in time. With him I think we start a trend with the best staying home to build something special. Players next year likeTabor, Breneman, O’Daniel, Allen, and Fuller, will hopefully look to join him. Look, this is a jump start to something very special. I don’t think that many here understand that Randy Edsall has actually started something great here. Parents love him because he has a vision. His idea of helping to develop student athletes that will go on to do great things whether it is in the NFL or in industry, or in one of the professions is something he is bringing to the table Kinda like Joe Paterno once upon a time did at Penn State. The difference is that we are already a great learning institution. We are in a great city right next to the Nation’s Capital with great job potential and connections. The next thing you know we will be attracting great recruits from all over the country because Maryland will be the place to go. Our high academic standards and our great programs will attract the best student athletes. This institution is on a mission to be not only a great place of learning, but also a great athletic university. It will take some time but Stephon could be instrumental in lighting the flame in football.

Part two:
The addition of the Harrison twins would in mho catapult us to the National Championship. With Shaq, Layman, and Len on the inside with the twins at the 1 and 2 along with stoglin if he stays or his replacement along with a rotation that includes Faust, Parker, Allen, Pankey, and the addition of another power forward this team under Turge is going all the way. But the point has been made that a combination of Jordan and Robinson could very well accomplish the same thing. That is also the truth.

Therefore the edge goes to Stephon Diggs who has the potential to be a game changer in terms of how the locals see our football program.

One additional caveat: People have to start to fill the seats and sell out the stadium. Then and only then will our football program be able to move forward.

by clevesanterp on Feb 9, 2012 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

For me, it's Diggs in a heartbeat

I love the Harrison twins, but most likely they’ll be gone after a year (two at the max). Maryland basketball is already on a very good trajectory.

Meanwhile, Diggs would absolutely reshape the recruiting class. Not only would it establish Good Counsel as THE pipeline for Maryland football (a very good one), but it would bring legitimacy and hope to a program that has none. There is tons of hope in our basketball program, but none in football.

In terms of which players would have more impact on the success of one particular team, it’s clearly the twins. But in terms of long-term uplift of a program, I think Diggs is the much more valuable get.

by turtlepower on Feb 9, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

I could care less about MD football and know virtually nothing about it

With that disclaimer, it has to be MD football. On this site, it seems like the Twins and Diggs are getting the same amount of press. They both (the Twins are one entity and Diggs is another) seem to be the crown jewels of MD basketball and football recruiting, respectively.

MD basketball, however, is in a much better situation than MD football. They need this Diggs kid to rejuvenate the program. MD already has a top-40, top-35 guy coming in in Cleare. They seem poised to snag at least one of Jordan and Robinson if the Twins fall through. If Diggs falls through, well, they don’t have another option. And their other 2013 recruits aren’t standouts like Cleare.

by mdmadness on Feb 9, 2012 11:00 PM EST reply actions  

I'm more of a basketball fan than football, but i gotta go with Diggs here

Stefon Diggs won’t only be beneficial for the football program, but it is beneficial for Maryland as a whole. Think of it like this, if Diggs goes to Ohio St, Auburn, or Florida, than he’s one of many great players/5 star recruits. If he comes to Maryland, he stands out. He’s the star of the team, which could ultimately bring national exposure to MD’s football team, which is lacking. I didn’t even know shit about football until i actually got here last year.

When i applied to MD, alot of it had to do with Basketball/gary williams etc. Basketball will be fine, without the Harrison Twins. The football program needs alot more help than basketball. Turgeon is going to do great things with basketball, and i’m sure we’ll get other great players.

So i’m gunna go with Stefon Diggs with this one, because of the benefit he could bring to the program, and potentially bring MD football to a nationally recognized level

by terp10 on Feb 9, 2012 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

The difference is...

40% of the talent on the court/field VS 5% of the talent on the court/field. I really want Diggs, but I REALLY, REALLY want those twins in a package deal

by meast36 on Feb 10, 2012 12:18 AM EST reply actions  

This argument is stupid.

I understand that this is just for fun and hypothetically speaking, but they are not tied together at all. It’s not in the slightest like if we get one we cant get the other or anything of the sort. I mean an argument of who is more significant to the future of the program is definitely a legit argument but the idea of only choosing one of the other is kinda silly. No offense to anyone or anything just saying.

by amaymon on Feb 10, 2012 1:17 AM EST reply actions  

This is a pipe dream (bear with me) but what if....

The Terps signed the Twins and then Beejay Anya wanted to stay home (and not go to GTown) and be a Terp?

The Terp’s would have (according to Scout’s rankings):

Number 1 Point Guard 2013 Class
Number 1 Shooting Guard 2013 Class
Number 1 Center 2013 Class

This is NOT totally impossible BTW.

Even the Fab Five didn’t have the best player at 3 different positions sign with them. This would immediately put MD in the FF discussion and might be the catalyst that GW wasn’t able to take advantage of following the 2002 season.

Any thoughts? I know having Shaq makes Anya less likely, especially when both are such naturals holding down the 5, but having 1 highly regarded “true” Center certainly isn’t a deal breaker. But perhaps the scholly situation makes it impossible, I don’t know the Scholarship situation at all. But I’m sure if Anya wants to be a Terp, Turge and Co will find a way to make it happen so the #1 Center in the country can come to CP. Anybody know if they’d even have a scholarship for Anya w/o taking one from someone else?

Thoughts?

by meast36 on Feb 10, 2012 1:39 AM EST reply actions  

I was under the impression that

we are out of it for Anya. I had heard that he was heavily favoring Syracuse last year so we really aren’t in it.

by terpfan812 on Feb 10, 2012 6:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Not true

Anya was out until about a month ago he said he would be open again to discussing maryland

by amaymon on Feb 10, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

This.

Staying home to rep your State school is a trend that’s about to take off today @ 6:00.

by 1 proud terp on Feb 10, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

As a DeMatha grad...

It really pisses me off that one of, if not THE single most storied High School basketball program in the country is 2000 yards down Rt 1 and Maryland basketball only lands an occasional player every 5-7 years. I know Morgan Wooten wanted the Maryland job literally for decades and was never offered might have had some bad feelings but he’d never influence a players decision to attend MD. And did Mike Jones continue the tradition of sending players elsewhere or is Maryland for a DeMatha player sort of like Maryland was/is for Baltimore players following Bob Wade, they just don’t even consider playing in CP? As a Terp fan you always hear about how Moses Malone would’ve changed this program had he not declared out of HS, but what about players like Adrian Dantley, Kenny Carr, Sidney Lowe, Derek Wittenburg, Keith Bogans, Joe Forte, Austin Freeman, Danny Ferry, all the Grant boys. How do you think having a Top 20 All-Time NBA leading scorer (Dantley) or a National POY Winner (Ferry) or ACC POY as a Soph (Forte) or the starting backcourt for an NCAA Champ team (Lowe and Wittenburg) or a player who started all 82 reg season games and all 15 post season games for the team that had the most wins in the NBA last year (Bogans) or a member of the 1976 Olympic team that won gold (Carr) or a preseason Big East POY (Freeman) would’ve helped. I DO think its ironic that Bogans went to Kentucky thinking he’d have a better chance at a Natty there, meanwhile MD went to 2 FFs and won a Championship while he was in Lexington. I guess the last DM player was Garrison (I wont count Slanika) and before that Simpkins and Kurtis Schultz and Mustaf, Massenburg and Branch. Its really a shame that the relationship between the 2 schools couldn’t be reconciled for the sake of the state, for the sake of the kids whose families could’ve come to more of their games and for the sake of the fans. Maybe Maryland could’ve become the traditional powerhouse of the ACC having from 1980-84 Lowe and Wittenburg along with Albert King and Buck Williams, Lenny Bias, Adrian Branch, Keith Gatlin and Ben Coleman. Think they could’ve done some damage?

by meast36 on Feb 10, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

on the flip side

with the staff we have now reaching out to everybody, DeMatha is in with the rest of the schools. Of course we like their players, but for example, in Jerami Grant and Layman’s case, the staff possibly let the first one to commit decide it. Otherwise, who knows.

either way, I’m not worried. We have a whole world to recruit. Yeah, it costs a little extra mileage, but the #UA jet can handle it!

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Feb 10, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm glad you mentioned this.

I almost sort of resent Dematha for not sending more players our way. I loved Simpkins, was in school same time when he was here. I thought we’d have a pipeline once we got good again…never happened. Was truly pissed about missing out on Bogans and Forte.

I figured there had to be some bad blood with Wooten or something. In any case, I’d love for things to change, but somehow I doubt it will. Things might actually get worse, especially on the Fball side, as Dematha sees us opening up a huge pipeline with their hated rivals, GC. I hope not, I’d rather see a competition develop as to who can send the most players to the now nationally-relevant BIG RED!!!

by 1 proud terp on Feb 10, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Proud one - you know better

Are we going to worry about who we recruit for fear of upsetting a HS? I have to go back to what Chucky said a while back. If the players want to come here, they will – we’re more than happy to have the guys come on board. But the factor of not wanting to go to school right down the road may be the biggest drawback for some DM players.

It’s their life, I’m happy wherever they choose….because Turge and staff will get talent in here no matter what.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Feb 10, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. After spending 4 years in Hyattsville

would you really want to double-down for 4 more.

#sorrypgcountyiloveu

by 1 proud terp on Feb 10, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the question

shows the MD shoulder chip / inferiority complex. No reason we should have to choose.

by FHFAN on Feb 10, 2012 5:37 AM EST reply actions  

Not even a question

Harrison twins for sure. You pick up 20% of your starting lineup for the next year immediately. I think that Aaron would be a huge bench contributor, you can’t bench Stoglin for all the scoring he does. You get so deep in the backcourt with Harrison twins committing. You go two deep at the 1, 3 deep at the 2, four deep at the 3….

by djcarv2005 on Feb 10, 2012 8:44 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks to everyone who commented

I’ve seen this discussion on other posts, but never in detail. This was a much better discussion! Now let’s get all three and become a powerhouse in basketball and football!

by rquidas on Feb 10, 2012 12:42 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Not in terms of ultimate revenue

I think Diggs is more important. The season basketball is having is only enhancing Turgeon’s reputation as a coach. Plus he’s got an outstanding class coming in for 2012 and nothing to make me think he won’t continue that powerful recruiting into the future with or without the Harrisons. Clearly they have the potential to have a greater impact on the court than Diggs does on the field. But to get a class of the caliber we will have with as much local talent as we would have if Diggs commits enhances the value of his commitment to MD athletics as a whole. It sends such a clear signal that the FB program could be moving in the right direction when we already know MBB is headed that way.

by FHFAN on Feb 10, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

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