False Alarm? Danny O'Brien Tweets He's "Still a Terp" [UPATE: Reportedly "Seriously Considering" Transferring]
Contrary to rumor, I am still a Terp.
— Danny O'Brien (@DannyOBrien5) February 8, 2012
That'll teach you to believe the Twitters. First Mike Leach, then Sean Miller, now this. Only this one has a happy ending.
No idea what this means about Garcia, though. Anyway, I don't think this saga is over. There will still be plenty of time for things to change once spring ball rolls around. There's been smoke regarding this for months - today was so believable because a lot of people already believed it was happening anyway. That doesn't just go away. If he loses his job to CJB, or if he doesn't like the offense, or doesn't click with Edsall, there's still plenty of time for stuff to happen.
(And if you're really a conspiracy theorist: maybe he just realized it was awful timing to do it now and he should hold off for a few weeks. Walking around campus as "the hated guy who cost Maryland Stefon Diggs" for the next few months while working toward his degree would probably suck.)
Anyway: HUZZAH! Also, here come the pitchforks at Dan Hellie.
Update, 5:00: The WaPo has published a new story claiming that, indeed, Danny's mind isn't yet made up. As expected:
Danny O'Brien, who earned ACC rookie of the year honors after a breakout 2010 season, is seriously considering whether to leave Maryland's football program and transfer to another school, individuals with knowledge of the situation said Wednesday. ... According to one individual with knowledge of the situation, O'Brien will spend the weekend deciding with his family whether to leave Maryland.
Thank God nothing's happening until after Diggs is decided, but your worries shouldn't yet be gone.
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When are we going to learn?
To steal a phrase from Stephen Colbert…
TWWWWIIIIIIIITTTTTTEEEEERRRRR!!!!!
garcia is gone.
But keeping Dob completely eclipses that
Lets gooo Maryland
by Terrapin13 on Feb 8, 2012 4:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Good thing
I postponed the jersey burning ceremony…
by terpsDC on Feb 8, 2012 4:44 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
If Diggs commis here, that Hellie guy should be forced to never talk about MD football again
by Maryland1206 on Feb 8, 2012 4:45 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Everybody makes mistakes
I just wish people would hold off on tweeting until they verified the news they were reporting. Is a little journalistic responsibility too much to ask for? (A: yes)
Losing Danny would kill this team
CJB is not a starting college QB. Sure, he runs great but there’s the whole part about QBs having to throw the ball.
Danny is a stud QB that got put in a terrible offensive scheme that was totally unsuited to his skills. With Locks coming on, we should be back to an offense that is more suited to what he can do.
Like Tebow?
Tebow couldn’t throw his first couple of years either.
Did I just compare CJB to Tebow? Yes. Does CJB have all of his traits and ability? No, but he’s big fast and strong and he’s still learning the passing game. In time, he will develop to be a complete quarterback.
"In time, he will develop to be a complete quarterback?"
If that’s the case it better happen soon because he’ll be a junior next season.
I don't disagree
Next year is a big year for him, but he showed a lot of ability last year. I don’t think he needs to be a great passer for MD to be successful. That said, it would certainly be helpful if he was a little more well rounded.
I think he’ll be fine. He’s now played in a more conventional offense and a spread offense at the college level. He should be able to pick up the playbook for this new offense pretty quickly. Once he does, his natural ability will shine through.
wow....
Tebow was a 5 star coming out of HS, won state championships, was the state of florida’s mr. football. you are reaching a tad here.
Yeah... Tebow was the first sophomore to win the Heisman trophy
According to ESPN’s stats, in his freshman year, Tebow backed up Chris Leak and completed 22 for 33 passes (67%) for 358 yards and 5 TDs and 1 INT, for a passer rating of 201.7. Hardly a bad passer rating. And he rushed for another 8 TDs.
In his sophomore year, he completed 234 of 350 passes (67%) for 3,286 yds for 32 TDs and 6 INTs and a passer rating of 172.5. He also rushed for another 23 TDs.
By comparison, CJB, in his freshman year, shared time with DOB and he completed 82 of 166 passes (49%) for 7 TD and 6 INTs and a 98.7 passer rating. He did rush for 5 TDs to his credit.
Nothing against CJB at all, but Tebow has precious few peers at the collegiate level.
by Terpmenacestan on Feb 8, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
The percentages also miss the point
Again, I was pointing out the fact that Tebow was not considered a passer in college. He wasn’t even considered a passer his first couple of years as a pro. You can throw up all the percentages you like, but I doubt anyone would really dispute that opinion. For the sake of argument, you should probably factor in that most of the passes were short screens or passes normally used in a spread offense. I might add the fact that the talent level at WR was probably a lot different than MD’s
Again, the point is that he was never considered a passer in college. He was the epitome of the “run first” quarterback and arguably still is to a certain extent. The point that I was trying to make with CJB is that there’s still room for growth. Not that he will necessarily become Tebow or that he has Tebow’s skill set. I think I mentioned that before, but I guess I should repeat it.
I think the point has been missed
The original commenter noted that CJB is was just a runner. I just pointed out that Tebow was considered a runner throughout his college career. I didn’t not say they had the same exact skill set or the same star rating coming out of HS.
agreed
Fans are still reeling from last season, having to look forward to the next one without dob would be too much
Lets gooo Maryland
by Terrapin13 on Feb 8, 2012 4:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Taylor Martinez
Is the player I am always reminded of when I see CJB. By all accounts he is pretty damn successful.
Hahaha
I am a transplanted Marylander living in Nebraska and I see all of Taylor Martinez’s games. I can definitely tell you he is not successful. Nebraska is successful because of the players surrounding him. He may be an awesome runner but his throwing mechanics are the worst anyone has seen. From what I saw CJB is alot further along than Martinez in the all around package. CJB at Nebraska would have been easily accepted by the fans here. My Terp devotion has rubbed off on my Husker friends and they watch the games I do. When CJB played against Clemson they thought CJB was the next coming of Tommie Frazier and would have taken him any day over Taylor.
by Fear the TurGle on Feb 8, 2012 6:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I disown everything...
that my son said through this account today. Damn! I gotta keep better control of that youngster!
:-)
Children should be seen and not heard.
by CharlesDriesell on Feb 8, 2012 4:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Still a terp, for how long?
Seems like he could have been a little more convincing in his choice of words.
+1
I would have liked a more strongly worded “Tweet.” I’m still a Terp could be misconstrued as “for how long”? Might be a reach, but were Terps fans, we always have the pitchforks ready.
I wouldn't read too much into his "I'm still a Terp" statement.
Had he said “I’ll ALWAYS be a Terp”, some would ask: Is that in your heart while you’re wearing another uniform? To a conspiracy theorist, anything can be twisted to mean something different.
There was also
Someone in the grassy knoll
wow
Emotional up and downs like watching a Md basketball game.
by valleyterp on Feb 8, 2012 4:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Sometimes this is how I view this program

You want to look away, but you just cant
by PhillyTerp on Feb 8, 2012 4:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hellie isn't convinced he's wrong
I’ve seen @DannyOBrien5 tweet. Does not mean he is staying. We will see.
The truth is probably closer to Ben's assertion
that he’ll wait til spring ball then decide. We are by no means out of the woods.
@ DanHellie
Stefon Diggs is concerned with the # of players Ohio State signed this year could hurt #Buckeyes chances of landing him
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
pretty sure a week ago he said he's all OSU's and the MD visit ws courtesy.
dont trust him with Recruiting
PLEASE DELETE THE POST ABOUT HIM LEAVING
dont want him to read anything negative
by Charlotte NC Terp on Feb 8, 2012 4:56 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Dont really care about football.. Im a basketball guy so I definately wasnt crying
only time you would see me cry is if there was a rumor that Stoglin was leaving.
by Charlotte NC Terp on Feb 8, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
anyone elses fanpost section get messed up??
by formerlyknownasjinsookim on Feb 8, 2012 4:58 PM EST reply actions
Overall, If Danny and Max do decide to matriculate other places, we have to wish them the best of luck, and stand behind/support our Troops….
To quote/paraphrase from Hoosiers:
Coach Norman Dale :This is your team
Crowd: We want Jimmy
Coach Norman Dale: I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. These six individuals have made a choice to work, a choice to sacrifice, to put themselves on the line 23 nights for the next 4 months, to represent you, this high school. That kind of commitment and effort deserves and demands your respect. This is your team.
where then
cannot be gone w/o a destination = bad plan
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
Still wondering where...
Mackall wound up. With all his ranting, you’d think he had options. Which, as it turned out, he didn’t.
Children should be seen and not heard.
by CharlesDriesell on Feb 8, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
I still don’t get that part either. Gotta have a plan or else it could backfire big time. Even ruin their football careers.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
yeah its that mistake people make with employers.
Always reminds me of the scene in Jerry Maguire, right after he leaves the office when he quits, its silent for about a second and then everyone goes right back to doing what they are doing. Everyone is replaceable.
He's never like Edsall and has always sort of been expected to leave, possibly with Dill to RU
thats just a guess though
If he does transfer....
is Vanderbilt the favorite to get him? What’s their QB situation like? I’m sure DOB would love to go play with Franklin
Aaron Rodgers' little brother took hold of that job last year
He certainly wouldn’t walk in as the starter.
I'm not so sure about that
Franklin and DOB are boys, and Jordan Rodgers wasn’t that amazing…
Uh Oh
“According to one individual with knowledge of the situation, O’Brien will spend the weekend deciding with his family whether to leave Maryland. " I hope he stays and sees this thing thru, he would be the starter in Lock’s offense.
It would be a HUGE loss if he left—what are the odds that is he leaves he goes to Vandy?
How odd...
…DOB comes off a HUGE freshman season in 2010, and is introduced to a an offense (the spread) that doesn’t suit his talents. Now Crowton is gone, Locks is in, we’re going back to a pro-style scheme that DOES suit his talents, and he’s thinking about transferring…can it get any more effed up?
I dont think thats the sole reason, would be a stupid decision by DOB if that decides it
Diggs coming could def. help, but I dont think him going anywhere else would be that big of a deal. I could easily be wrong though
Could he be waiting
on Diggs??? Does he stay if we get him?
Hope he stays
DOB knows he is in competition for starting QB at Maryland and grass always looks greener other places but seldom is. Hope he stays!
Two things...
1. Where did this reporter go to school? Ohio State? Just wondering, because this whole thing sounds pretty fishy.
2. Why not delete the entire two threads from earlier? Might be a good idea…
Children should be seen and not heard.
I thought the same thing about where he went to school
I had to look it up, turns out it was Tenn
Ben you changed the site tagline?
I liked the Good to Great since 2008 better.
I hope thats a temporary change
A little sarcastic frustration does seem appropriate right about now.
Getting the scoop
Sort of reminiscent of Chick Hernadez’ post on the hiring of Ron Vanderlinden as DC.
There’s a story in there somewhere, the details are not exactly clear, but the first one to break it wins.
for the love of god stop with the CJ Brown nonsense!!
I would trust the freshman Hills or Rowe more than I would CJ.
CJ is very similar to Jamarr Robinson except he can’t throw
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!
smoke'em if ya got'em!
Ummm...
CJ was a sophomore with no college experience. We expect him to improve.
Children should be seen and not heard.
by CharlesDriesell on Feb 8, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
ultimate psych...
https://twitter.com/Terptek/status/167375258947567617
I know u just were discussing how u & “Fresh Lox” gonna run the Pro-Set next season! RT @DannyOBrien5 Contrary to rumor, I am still a Terp.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
no, I don't believe that
4 those that haven’t seen my 1,000 sarcastic posts
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
Maybe Edsall is high on Rowe??
And dob knows this? I think we all knew that this was a possibility. We gotta keep our heads up and hope stoglin can throw a football too…
*All Terp Everything*
by asianterp on Feb 8, 2012 5:38 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Please tell me you aren't serious
Like DOB feels threatened by Caleb Rowe, a true freshman.
Exactly...
True freshman for the most part are about the future. Not the present. Last year we had some exceptions, but they were exceptions.
Children should be seen and not heard.
by CharlesDriesell on Feb 9, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
If RE lets this happen this far into the game
Then I’ve lost all faith in him. No way we get Diggs with this confusion around. If RE can’t talk DOB into staying, he’s not worth the paper his contract is made of.
If DOB...
did this, this far into the game, then I have lost faith in him.
You can’t pin the timing of this on Edsall.
Children should be seen and not heard.
by CharlesDriesell on Feb 8, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
For once, this would not be on Edsall
This would be completely on DOB if he transfers at this point. If he wanted to transfer after the season ended, it would of been smarter to do it earlier and fulfill a teams need at QB so they didn’t recruit someone to compete against you.
pin the fail on the donkey
by LeftCoastTerp on Feb 8, 2012 8:08 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe DOB knows that Diggs isn't coming...
That would be a double whammy. The only thing that would set the world right if diggs goes elsewhere and DOB leaves would be us beating duke on saturday and going 6-1 in the last seven games in b-ball.
Diggs isn't coming...
…book it.
Children should be seen and not heard.
by CharlesDriesell on Feb 8, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Is it bad to say that I have absolutely no interest in following the football team anymore?
This coach does nothing for me. I never understood the hire. I have had to turnaround many stores in my career and something you learn early is you turn the ship slowly at first, unless you get an upper hand and have the luxury of pissing people off and booting them out the door.
Fear the Turgle!
that sounds like Nick Saban
with the scholly players he let go
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
Kind of cool...
There has been a lot of (potentially) bad news for UMD today. On a positive note:
I thought everyone would enjoy the fact that our Pride helmets were a clue on Jeopardy tonight. BOOM! We’ve made it big time. haha.
I might be the only UMD student on TT that watches Jeopardy, but I’m still stoked and “Proud.”
by AimHigh on Feb 8, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Wrong.
It’s … “WHAT IS made it big time”
When I lived with other students last year we had the DVR record every episode of Jeopardy… then would watch it together. #nerds
by discuit on Feb 8, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I also watch Jeopardy. . .
Just my luck, I couldn’t watch tonight because of intramural basketball. Think there’s anywhere I can find it online or something?
Edsall needs to parent less and coach more!
Edsall needs to prepare young men to be better football players. Leave the parenting BS to the parents. You get paid to coach football players. Fundamentals were out the window last year – as a head coach he gets an “F”! Poor assistants – maybe, but fundamental football skills were erased as he walked with his arms crossed the whole season. Coach the players and coach/correct your damn assistants.
"Still a Terp"?
This Tweet bothers me? Still a Terp until he is no longer? His words were not definitive that his mind is set to always be a Terp. This kid wanted nothing more than to be a part of this program. And now the “Edsall” chaos leads to this.
How was this leaked?
With Edsall and his super secrecy I’m the voice of the program paranoia, how did Hellie find out so fast? Honest question, did one of the two mentioned players say something, or is someone within the program not following the “rules” of Edsall? If someone from within leaked this, does that mean that a few within the administration dont respect Edsall. I find that more troublesome than players not wanting him there.
Yep
don’t players stop by in his office all the time, merely to shoot the breeze and check in after they do strength and conditioning, etc. How did this “someone” know it was an important convo unless they listened in, or were privy to it and leaked it out on purpose?
Hmmmm, something seems weird in the gold mine…
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
Danny O'brien is a smart player
He won’t leave unless its for a legit reason. If any one knows whats going on with the football program, its him. He understands what Locksley means to the program and the talent that could be brought in. I highly doubt he leaves before the end of spring practices if he leaves at all. But my god, that was a scare if i’ve ever seen one
Why is there not a "Hate Thread"
going on now for the unc/dook game??
missed a lot today
i still don’t feel like danny is going to stay. I think he’ll announce his transfer next week.
RIP Lennie Bias
Turgeon General, Fear the Turgeon, in Turgeon we trust.
Lesean is the "Real Slim Shady"
Completely off topic here, but
What’s with the " Lowering Expectations since 2008" tagline? Is that just a joke?
:p
Just a joke, folks. Just a joke. It was “good to great” before that, and some other joke before that, and “conscripting for Testudo’s Toops” before that. Frankly, the OG tagline is still my favorite and we’ll probably go back to that.
My bad
Didn’t realize the history. I did like the good to great…although I must say, KA has made some pretty nice moves lately. He is giving RE every chance to be successful. If he isn’t, he has no one to blame but himself.
If I was a UNC fan
I would probably be too dead to type this
by charmcityking on Feb 8, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
WTF?
Thank God nothing’s happening until after Diggs is decided, but your worries shouldn’t yet be gone
Broman, you really are showing your age aren’t you?
Like the damage hasn’t already been done. The dog has been dicked on this one.
Would be miraculous to pick up Diggs now. But then again… It wouldn’t be a surprise if you could anticipate it. We’ll see.
I assure you...
…this screws us for Diggs.
Children should be seen and not heard.
by CharlesDriesell on Feb 8, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yep...
…this coming out right now, has screwed the recruitment completely. I blame both Edsall and O’Brien. Edsall for not getting assurances from DOB, and DOB for not making his intentions (or leanings) clear before now. At a minimum, when DOB was asked to host Diggs, he should have said… “…well uh, maybe we ought to have a talk…” At a minimum, that is what he should have done. And then they should have assigned someone else to host Diggs.
Children should be seen and not heard.
by CharlesDriesell on Feb 9, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
LOL, like you have any idea what's going on in his head
For all we know he didn’t like DOB. I’ll say what I said with Edsall: there are several more important characters in this recruitment than Danny O’Brien. If we lost Locksley or Papa Dancel, THEN I’d be worried. Freaking out over DOB? Not worth the effort.
That said, you DO want to insulate yourself from negative recruiting, which is why having plausible deniability is a big deal. Otherwise? Meh.
by Ben Broman on Feb 9, 2012 9:21 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Exactly
Is it even 100% certain that DOB was his host, I know it’s been said that’s who it was, but do we really know? Like you said, there are bigger players in this, it’s not like DOB was going to be here the whole time Diggs would be. He would have 2 years with him max, and then in his 3rd year (presumably year he wants his draft status to he high, or on the up) he would have a whole new QB throwing to him.
I agree DOB isn't...
a major deal. I’m just tired of the negative crap. Oh, and the timing of this would be (short term) horrific, and I’d lose all respect for DOB if it turns out as bad as it could.
The main thing is, we got a bunch of kids who buy into the new setup. If DOB isn’t one of them, so be it. CJ can be a fine quarterback, though depth is a major issue short term. But nothing that time can’t heal.
Children should be seen and not heard.
by CharlesDriesell on Feb 9, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Broman, Broman, Broman
Looks like Diggs very well may be on board… but that really speaks to the power of Locksley then, which unfortunately I may have underestimated. However, in my initial post, I did leave that as an out.
The thing is I’m actually fairly tight with DOB having recently gone to Australia with him… I even went so far as to ask him to put in a good word for me with a nice young lady in one of his classes yesterday.
Without going into details of what was said or done I have conversed with DOB as well as Diggs on the issue… and it seemed in my estimation that DOB was a central part of Diggs potential commitment.
In addition, I always enjoy stirring shit up… God bless you, Broman.
Yep
Engelke already got his ankles broken on that one.
by Joe Bradshaw on Feb 8, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Cool
This means we have no chance for Diggs and are going to start a quarterback who can’t throw
I bet what happened was...
DOB went and told them he was transferring today, and they begged him for the love of god at least wait til Diggs declares and he said, OK, I’ll wait til monday to officially tell everyone. He’s as good as gone.
Today
Would be a great time for Edsall to come out and say he was just kidding about his attitudes towards colored hair and earrings…
Randy? Hello?
technically, he already did....
…in a radio interview recently he said he had no problem with dyed hair and pointed out that many grown men dye their hair….it was a softball interview otherwise.
Any jawing b/w you and Petecard on the SB? Did not see it on the TI.
Regards -
-hgr
ok, what about the earrings?
Are they still forbidden?
- Haha…havent seen Petecard in a while…..I assume we are both in agreement that we really like the BBALL program ……
Back to DOB, just the fact that this is seriously being debated (DOB) is a huge problem….notice the careful parsing of the words between DOB and RE regarding the transfer rumors….I suspect there is something to this story
If he graduates in spring...
..he has every right to do whatever he wants. I just hope that staying at MD is what he wants to do. I could also see th careful parsing of words being a set up for a “Great News: DOB is staying” announcement to further some of the perceived improvements by many who follow the team.
DOB is too smart to announce he is leaving this early in the semester. I don’t think anyone other than he and his family will know anything for sure until after he walks the stage in May…if he chooses to do so (I blew off the graduation ceremony myself….I kinda regret doing that).
Regards -
-hgr
The timing
From a PR perspective, I can see how DOB would want to wait until Spring if his decision is to transfer……I wonder from a practical perspective how this works….in other words, if you are going to transfer, are you better off getting the ball rolling now to ensure that your new school has a scholarship available? Just wondering
Again, if he leaves, after being ACC ROY and one of the better QBs we have had in a while, its just another indictment against the KA / Edsall regime but you already know my feelings on that
Everything I've read
and from everything I see it just seems like everything is falling into place for him to Diggs to come here.
I'm too drunk to taste my own damn chicken. - Col. Sanders
Man I'm having some serious trouble typing
*for Diggs to come here.
I'm too drunk to taste my own damn chicken. - Col. Sanders
Until yesterday that is...
Now instead of falling into place, things are falling apart…
Children should be seen and not heard.
by CharlesDriesell on Feb 9, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
What exactly have you read?
Not saying your wrong. Prior to yesterday’s fiasco I actually thought we had an extremely good chance also, but now I think we may be in trouble..
BEAT DUKE!!
Worry about the Space Shuttle Challenger Memorial Football program when we have to watch lax lose to Hopkins . . .
So...updates?
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
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Diggs could still happen, possibly
I saw this on Terp Talk "Maryland is the team to beat" Mike Farrell of Rivals.com on the Decision of Stefon Diggs
February 9th, 2012 · No Comments · Maryland Football
This was in the Columbus Distch –in their Buckeye extra section
"As of (last night), I believe Maryland is the team to beat," Mike Farrell of Rivals.com said. "They’ve got that home-field advantage. To choose another school at this point is going to be difficult for him." Time is ticking, please Danny stay at Maryland. Why on earth would you transfer, after hosting biggest recruit and then transfer. Something is wrong with this thinking.
Prediction
Diggs commits tomorrow and DOB has to compete for the starting gig in the spring.
by LowcountryTerp1 on Feb 9, 2012 11:01 AM EST reply actions
Sounds good
EXCEPT, DOB shouldn’t have to compete for the starting gig with a quarterback who can’t throw the ball, especially if we picked up the best playmaker in the nation.
Everyone has to compete for their job
especially if Locksley is going to run a spread offense, he can do pretty well with a QB who isn’t the best passer.
See Williams, Juice.
When you're rich you don't write checks - Randy Moss
How about Stefon and Jalen commit, and the terps don't loose again for 20 years
Has Jalen been texting Stefon about the Dynasty?
I asked my Nephew who went to GC, and is friends with Stefon to tell him to stay home with his GC Teamates.
Douche bag commenters from Auburn.
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
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by John Stephens on Feb 9, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
No douchebaggier than our commenters
and if we were commenting back in 2002, we would likely have been exceptionally douchebaggy. Interesting to see how a school that has won huge recently views a school like ours.
r-hgr
In the words of Randy Edsall
Let’s keep our expectations low.
You should be happy about this...
…you were running out of steam on your anti-Edall ranting. Now you got something new to justify your hatred, and can pollute the board with your Edsall hate for another week at least.
Children should be seen and not heard.
by CharlesDriesell on Feb 9, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions

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