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Another Second-Half Slowdown Dooms Maryland at Georgia Tech, 63-61

After Maryland beat Miami, many thought they were on the verge of turning the corner, with a road game against struggling Georgia Tech a perfect opportunity to prove it. Instead, we got a brutal reminder that the Terrapins are young, inconsistent, and - most of all - still mercurial offensively, especially in the second half. A brutal second-half offensive shutdown sealed a disappointing loss, as the Terps fell in Atlanta to GT, 63-61.

Georgia Tech won the opening moments thanks to a hot shooting start, taking a 10-3 lead and forcing Mark Turgeon to burn an early timeout. The Terrapins responded well, though, outscoring GT 34-21 after the timeout. Largely due to Sean Mosley's 14 points on 4-5 shooting from three, Maryland took a 37-31 lead into the break.

The Terrapins looked they were going to take control of the game early in the second, jumping out to a nine-point lead. Instead, they suffered through their patented second half lull, with the offense looking nearly as miserable as it did a week ago against Virginia. Maryland shot 7-30 from the field in the second half (23%!) and scored only 24 points; Georgia Tech took advantage, and when combined with some timely buckets from Mfon Udofia and Brandon Reed, was able to pull into the lead. The Jackets tried to give the game away late, with travels and five-second violations in the final minute, but Maryland was unable to capitalize. Nick Faust's last-second three-quarter-court heave fell short, icing the final 63-61 margin.

Star-divide

Today's game hurts, because it was easy to think that Maryland had matured and, instead, we found out (rather harshly) that they're the same team they were. This showcased the Terrapins' structural problems: namely, they don't have enough help to survive an entire game when Terrell Stoglin doesn't score. The ACC's leading scorer shot 5-17 from the field, finishing with 18 points - though five of those came in the final minute. Maryland is good enough to survive a half without Stoglin scoring in bunches. But they're not good enough survive two.

Part of the issue is personnel. Mosley and Faust were big in the opening twenty minutes, combining to shoot 7-8 for 20 points; in the second half, it was 1-11 for nine points. They're just not guys you can look to and get points from consistently for an entire game, especially without Stoglin taking the heat off them. But Stoglin, as good as he may be, isn't going to be lights-out every game. Another issue is more team-oriented: Maryland couldn't get easy points off their defense, couldn't get second-chance buckets, and couldn't get out on the fast break. Those are intensity points, and like many young teams, Maryland hasn't locked down that aspect yet.

In terms of individual performances, there isn't a lot of good to say. Mosley was great for a half but invisible in the second, when Maryland needed points from him so badly. I hesitate to be critical of him in that sense; it's just who he is. He's a senior; if Maryland's expecting to put up 25, they'll be disappointed every game. Same goes for Faust, although he still has plenty of time to become that player.

Stoglin's performance hurts the most. He's really been struggling lately to put up points; even against Miami he was only dialed in for a few moments. It continued today. It looks like he's started to get frustrated and take some bad shots, even for him. He's sort of regressing to the Stoglin we saw earlier in the year, and I wonder if it's because Pe'Shon Howard (the only true point guard on the team) is gone again.

A few other quick observations: Berend Weijs and Alex Len is Maryland's best defensive post combo, but they provide very little offensively. It's easy to like them when they're in because they make it so tough on other teams down low, but it also makes it tough on Maryland offensively. Also, Mychal Parker and Ashton Pankey have been fringe players for Maryland all year, with a lot of rollercoaster performances. Today? Combined for 2 points, 1-8 shooting, and 9 fouls. Most of that is Pankey. It was rough to watch.

Ending line: Maryland is young. They're inexperienced. They'll have more ups, and they'll have more downs. But these games, with a complete inability to score in the second half, are ridiculously frustrating. I'm much more down on Maryland's ability to make noise in whatever's left of this year; that said I'm not any more down on their long-term future. This season, after all, has little to do with that.

More later.

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I can't wait until we get another legit scorer next year

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by John Stephens on Feb 25, 2012 5:03 PM EST reply actions  

Uhhh..that one guy on the team who leads the ACC

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by John Stephens on Feb 25, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Or for next year?

Layman and Shaq?

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by John Stephens on Feb 25, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Stoglin scored one or two points this season

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by John Stephens on Feb 25, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Another reason why this sucks

Since Clemson won, we wouldve gone to 6th in the ACC, tied for 5th. Instead were in 8th

by newjetfan on Feb 25, 2012 5:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Why lose 2 later when you can lose 3 now!!!!

by db0255 on Feb 25, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Pankey Is Horrible

I’m guessing Dodd won’t be playing much or at all next year, but the less Pankey plays, the better.

by Brendan Plutschak on Feb 25, 2012 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

Agree 100%

It truly is astounding. Between the attitudes towards players like Pankey, Faust, and Len, who are just freshmen, even Stoglin is just a sophomore. People want Stoglin to be GV, completely forgetting how GV was as a sophomore. This is a young team. We’ve got players being thrust into situations they shouldn’t be expected to frequently succeed in, and then when they don’t there’s people on here calling for their heads, transfers, bench, whatever. In the long run, all the experience some of these guys are getting could pay dividends down the road.

Any given day.

by terpfan92 on Feb 25, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree here too.

Still frustrating to watch, shouldn’t have lost today. But its not the end of the world. We do need to step back and recognize that we have a ton of youth and lack of depth. Look at what marquette was able to do from the begining of last year to this year.

by nmcvicker03 on Feb 25, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Eight Healthy Scholarship Players is a tough situation

Can’t expect too much until we build more depth. I think by 2014, we should be a legit top 25 team.

by bruterp on Feb 25, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Hes a dud

*All Terp Everything*

by asianterp on Feb 25, 2012 5:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Turg loves hustle.... then WHY Pankey?

He is so lazy, always jogging, and hands are never up. He needs to be in the rotation for size and fouls, but starting???

by Glory801 on Feb 25, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not always like that

You just notice it when he’s eating dicks on the court. He sucks when he doesn’t hustle, it affects the game, and then you notice it. He’s lights out when he actually has active feet.

by db0255 on Feb 25, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what subs are for, to “eat dicks” on the bench, you should give it EVERYTHING on the court!!

by Glory801 on Feb 25, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

The deal with Pankey

He’s 6-9, a legitimate 6-9 as far as I can tell. He has a good build. His touch is inconsistent but it’s actually pretty good most days. He’s not entirely unathletic.

He’s also very raw and very rusty – remember that he went two years effectively without playing. He’s okay defensively one-on-one but is awful as soon as he’s asked to rotate. He has essentially no post moves.

I have no idea about his mentality and I don’t like it when people say they do. In very rare instances – Juan in the good, someone like Braxton Dupree in the bad – you can tell how much a player cares when they’re on the floor. I’m not going to say Pankey doesn’t give effort, or that he doesn’t have a good work ethic or whatever. I don’t know.

If he does have a good work ethic, if he cares, then he has a future. He’s moldable. He’s ahead of James Padgett at the same point – people forget how truly bad Padgett was as a freshman. Dude would travel every other time he touched the ball, had no idea how to play tough, I’m not sure he ever dunked.

by Ben Broman on Feb 25, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Padg = hustle, so much that it looks akward at times, but he’s playing his heart out. I remember a set play in the Miami game where Pankey stood at the top of the key almost like he was sulking (if you were only watching him you’d think it was a timeout) waiting for the play to finish.

by Glory801 on Feb 25, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

pankey is pretty good? at what? he can’t dribble. he can’t pass. he can’t shoot. he can’t box out on the defensive boards. and he doesn’t play hard very often. i know he hasn’t played in a couple of years. but if you remember he was a “project” to start with. projects usually lacks skills. certainly obvious skills. but pankey shows no skills. not early in the year and not after 28 games. he just has good size. my brother in law is 5 2. good size for a jockey but he can’t ride. with my brother in law as well as with pankey size doesn’t matter. i know of a well known well respected high school caoch who i will not mention by name that sees md play quite a few tiles a year and his opinion of pankey is..well..when pankey was signed by md this coach asked “why?”. this coach said pankey wouldn’t be an 8th or 9th man on his h.s. team.

by fkterp on Feb 25, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Did you read?

I didn’t say he could dribble or pass – though his shot is inconsistent, it will fall sometimes. Point is that he’s 6-9 with a good build and moderately athletic. But I don’t believe it’s obvious that you can look at someone from as far away as we are and just know that he “doesn’t play hard”. It’s presumptuous.

by Ben Broman on Feb 25, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he's looking at Pankey's body language and is seeing it

Granted body language can usually tell you how someone is feeling, but some people just don’t show emotion. For all we know he could be the most intense player on the team (highly doubtful) but just doesn’t wear his emotions on his sleeve.

by terpsallday on Feb 25, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a freshman...

In time he may be a legit player, but the fact that he plays is a testement to how bad a shape Gary left this team in.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 25, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Coaching wise? Yes

Recruiting? Lefty>>>>>>>>>>Gary

by terpsallday on Feb 25, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

At the moment...

I’m only worried about how Mark is going to dig us out of Gary’s hole.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 25, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

That's easy Chuck

He just needs to get 60% of the Houston Defenders starting five here

by terpsallday on Feb 25, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

He's doing what he needs to do...

…not quite there, but Turge is putting it together. Trust in the Turge.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 25, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

We already know its on the way up. The leading scorer in the ACC is just a Soph.

Nick Faust is a good Freshman along with Len. We’ve got 2 top 100 guys and 1 borderline 110ish. We’re fine for the future, you just want to keep putting GW down as long as you can

by Maryland1206 on Feb 25, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I just want to remind those who want to complain...

about the quality of the team, who is to blame. And as long as I am telling the truth (which I am) you can not complain. Our team sucks because that’s the way it was built by Gary Williams. He left because he didn’t want to go through the revolt that would have ensued had he been on the bench this year. If Gary was the coach this year, Terp fans would be calling for him to be fired. Right now.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 25, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

so gary told hawk to transfer?

and Pe to get injured… twice?
and Jordan to leave early?
for Ross not to be here?
then the economy to be sucking so bad?

i gave you credit at first because i thought you were rhyming on purpose. yeah what, gary made you rhyme too?

by space_ on Feb 25, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Ummm...

Hawk?

http://www.terrapinstats.com/bb/profile.cfm?playerid=383

Yeah, that 2 star player would really make a difference this year.

Pe? Love him, but he isn’t an ACC starting point guard.

Jordan leaving? Well, if one player of significance (and he’s the only one) leaves and it ruins your team, you must not have built a strong team.

And who is Ross?

Gary left this team a shambles. If Gary had coached this year, this would have been his worst team. Stop making excuses for him.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 25, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I love what GW did for MD

but Chuck, you are right, he saw the writing on the wall and bowed out. Would you wanna coach this team? If MT didn’t have something to prove, we would be god awful,.

by musicturtle on Feb 25, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

We just need to be patient...

it’s a complete rebuild project.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 25, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Its not a complete rebuild project.

Faust Stoglin Howard(IDC what you say, he’s gonna be good) were all GW players. He left Turgeon a set of starters, just no depth at all.

by Maryland1206 on Feb 25, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Faust is not...

a Gary player. He was a Gary recruit, but never a Gary player. And naming three players does not a team make. This is a complete rebuild.

And your starters? I say we have two starters right now. Mosley and Stogs. Everyone else on the team are 2nd teamers. Some have the potential to start, but right now we are putting a team of 2nd teamers on the court.

This is as close to a complete rebuild as you will ever see at a program of Maryland’s stature.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 25, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

"as close to a rebuild as you will ever see at a program of maryland's statute"

I love how every post of yours always goes back to gary williams….fitting then since what turgeon is attempting to “rebuild” pales in comparison to what gary faced. Face it old man, your perpetually selective memory and distortion of facts shows here

by Asnis71 on Feb 25, 2012 10:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

How come....

There is so much credit given to Hill, Spinelli, & Ranson on potential recruits for Turgeon. But, conveniently, no blame is assigned to GW’s assistant coaches Booth, Driesell, and Ehsan for leaving the cupboard bare. Only GW gets the blame in your book. He can’t do everything.

by Terpies NC on Feb 26, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Um...

the cupboard is bare isn’t it? Who would you assign blame to?

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 26, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

The entire staff

I would think that the entire coaching staff has to shoulder the blame for either bringing the wrong players or missing out on the right players. UMD was poised to do bigger things after the Natty and failed to capitalize.

I do think the emergence of AAU as the showcase for prep hoops has introduced a subset of nefarious characters who exploit the kids and extort the coaches. The system is corrupt and the corrupt coaches are very successful in recruiting. Not always so successful in translating great players into great teams.

I applaud Gary for staying clean. I only wish he was more successful in mining some hidden gems.

by Terpies NC on Feb 26, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You bring up this BS everytime the terps lose

Fact is, this isn’t the same team Gary would have had if he stayed, and you don’t know what the record would be if Gary coached this year. It’s all speculation.

And I don’t know what point you’re trying to make with Hawk. He was only a freshman, he averaged 10 minutes a game, his FG average was 45.5%, his 3-pt average was 41.4%, his FT average was 77.3%, and he fielded 2.1 rebounds per game within that 10 minute average.

by rsdk on Feb 25, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah let's not turn this into a GW fight thread

It’s not the time or the place. It’s irrelevant. We can call it a rebuilding project w/o getting into it about Gary’s legacy. Leave it be.

by Ben Broman on Feb 25, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

People are complaining about the quality of the team...

I’m just pointing out that we knew this coming in, and we knew the reason. This years team is PART of Gary’s legacy.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 25, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Are you in one of the computer labs on campus?

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 26, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there a question here?

No doubt in your lack of understanding, you also approved of Hero’s blind assumption?

You can fill volumes with what people who populate computer labs on college campusses don’t know. Which is where you are right now?

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 26, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Uhm

Which is why you can’t spell the plural of campus.

I invite you to these same computer labs to learn how to type.

Also, when responding to Hero, that would place him in a computer lab on a weekend. I’d give props to someone in a computer lab during the weekend.

by tumi on Feb 26, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Ironic

The guy that most rabidly defends Edsall wastes no opportunity to slam Gary Williams at every chance.

by GPT on Feb 26, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

this

at least stay consistent, Chuck. If you want to bash Gary for the state of the program, one could draw parallels to Edsall’s culpability as well.

by 1 proud terp on Feb 26, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Um...

why would I draw parallels to Edsall? There is no comparison.

When Edsall has coached our team for 20 some odd years, and left the team in dissaray, I will make the comparison.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 26, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah...

figures. You’re a Gary fan.

When all is said and done, Turge will average 24-26 wins a year. Which is 4-6 games a year more than Gary did.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 26, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

did you read what you wrote. “His touch is inconsistent but it’s actually pretty good most days”. what’s that mean then? if he s good most days means only a few days he’s not good. he does shoot 47% but 98% of those shots are lay ups or dunks. yes they are shots but, as gary would say, in other words, i don’t think you’d want pankey taking a big shot in a game. as for he doesn’t play hard. that’s not only my opinion but this high school coach who knows the game pretty pretty well. his team plays a "national’ schedule and he has sent many many kids to major programs and several have made the nba.

by fkterp on Feb 25, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, and that's exactly what I meant.

His touch was off today. It’s not on every day. But if you’ve watched the entire year you know this his touch around the rim is usually pretty spot-on, miles better than where Padgett was at the same time which was basically “throw it up and hope it goes in.” Pankey at least turns and aims, and usually can hit. Today he couldn’t but that doesn’t invalidate him.

As for playing hard: if your coach friend has coached him, then sure, it holds water. If not, sorry, but his perception is pretty much the same as you or me. We’re not inside his head and have no idea if he’s playing hard or not. I recognize that he may not play hard, but I have no sure idea so I won’t say that I do.

by Ben Broman on Feb 25, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t think touch has a lot do with lay ups and dunks. everyone is entitled to their own opinion. hey, that’s what this blog is all about. sometimes we agree sometimes not. i’ll leave it as this. pankey would be better off at school like loyola or towson and even theere he wouldn’t be much of a player. he’s no help at maryland. hopefully with the kids coming in next year and len gaining some muscle pankey’s minutes will drop significantly next year. he’s not an acc player and the acc is not a real strong conference.

by fkterp on Feb 25, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

At one time...

I would have said that touch doesn’t have much bearing on layups, but after seenig Padgett play, I have had to change my mind. Even now, his large number of offensive rebounds has a lot to do with rebounding his own misses.

by retlag on Feb 26, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

and actually Ben

to support your point, Turge had no qualms about taking AP out when the effort is there. He’s getting PT for a reason. Isuspect he’s doing good in practice – something we don’t get to see.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Feb 26, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

*effort isn't there*

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Feb 26, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point.. I think it is way too early to judge Pankey as well

I know a lot of people are upset with his body language…but that doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have a good work ethic or cares at all when he is playing. I have seen him be aggressive on the glass and go after the ball on the floor at times. He has been our leading scoring big man several times this year showing flashes of a good game.

I think his aggressiveness sometimes is hurt by the fact that I still don’t think he understands how to have body contact with other players and not get called for a foul by ACC refs. I see him several times each game look really angry after a call and then back off on his aggressiveness.

I think another year under his belt knowing how to play defense one on one against more skilled players will be great for him in the future.

I am certainly not ready to give up on him yet. He can hit the open jumper, and he really shines against smaller teams…I think he just needs to put it together…..

by TurtleShel716 on Feb 25, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

He showed a lot of potential against Miami

The problem with Pankey, like the rest of the team is inconsistency. It will develop with time as the supporting cast and depth of the team increases.

by bruterp on Feb 25, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Its easy for an observer to mistake confusion with a bad attitude

I seriously think AP sometimes gets confused as to what he is supposed to be doing on the floor – it may frustrate him quite a bit which may cause others to assume he is not trying.

I agree with Ben on AP’s athletic ability and the fact that he is much further along than many MD bigs were as freshmen. Its easy to forget how many times GW had to pull Wilcox out after one play as a freshman (no I am not saying AP=Wilcox, I am saying that it takes time and experience for bigs to develop). I am assuming that a summer spent with OL, JP and perhaps Shaq & Layman will pay dividends for him for his sophomore year. I would also say that he is definitely ahead of where DG was at the same point in his career. I know he is a RS freshman, but how much could he have actually practiced last season prior to the injury?

I know MT said early on that he was really pleased with AP’s athletic ability (and that it was unexpected). I think we have a guy that we are really going to appreciate his Junior and senior seasons.

r-hgr

by HughGR on Feb 26, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Game

When is the coaching staff going to step up? Don’t the have something to do with the over all results? Or they young also?
The players miss the shots but coaching comes in somewhere.

by Esterp on Feb 25, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

that is a terrible excuse, the coaches need to step it up on offense

we have the ACCs leading scorer, two 95 rated recruits, a seven footer, Padge with solid post moves, and a senior with a high bball IQ. They can put something together

by din009 on Feb 25, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

We have

The ACC leading scorer who shot 5-17 and 1-6 from 3 today
2 95 rated recruits….Pretty much all other ACC teams have 95 recruits plus more
A raw 7 footer still learning
Padgett who will alternate great post move with WTF was that post move
A high bball IQ senior who is a good role player but not a consistent 2nd scoring threat…

I think they have put something together having 6 wins is phenomenal IMO with this cast…

by TurtleShel716 on Feb 25, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

They have

But they miss point blank layups…like Padge has some good post moves, but he can’t finish! Neither can anybody. Thats why I rather have Stogs chuck up shots.

*All Terp Everything*

by asianterp on Feb 25, 2012 5:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

blaming coaches?

For this team, which has overachieved all year is just wrong. Turge and the coaches have us above .500 – as Seth Davis said, he’s done the most with the least talented team…

by terpapins on Feb 25, 2012 5:35 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Not the coaches at all

All you can do as a coach is put players in position to make layups. Can’t make em for them. Pankey, Padge, an Len have got to execute from like 2 feet away.

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by asianterp on Feb 25, 2012 5:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Len and Mosley both missed point-blank layups in the second half

If they made both we win. What are the coaches supposed to do?

by Ben Broman on Feb 25, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It's definitely more on the players than the coaches

But, I would like to see Turgeon make some adjustments on the offensive end when we are struggling so much in the second half.

Down the stretch, we weren’t even running plays, we would just pass the ball around and then Stoglin would end up with it and force a shot up. That is where Turgeon needs to be better. Call a timeout, set up a specific play, do something.

If the players aren’t executing what Turgeon is telling them to do on offense (in terms of running plays, not making shots) at this point in the season, then something is very wrong.

by aholla30 on Feb 25, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Stoglin isn't regressing.....His shot is just off...

Sure he took some bad shots. He does that every game…He’s going to keep doing it…When our offense slows down there is no one else other than him that can consistently score so he HAS to take over (Mosely and Faust obviously weren’t going to in the 2nd half)

He did play defense …but back to the offense 5-17 and 1-6 from the 3 point is WAY below his averages…one more goes in and we win the game….A lot of teams in the ACC would lose with their leading scorer shooting such a low percentage on his shots….

by TurtleShel716 on Feb 25, 2012 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

I would have rather...

seen Stoglin shoot and miss 6 more 3’s than watch Pankey throw the ball at the bakboard hoping it goes in.

by Glory801 on Feb 25, 2012 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

+1 Million

Pankey needs to sit down. He plays soft ass D and is some ass on offense. I dont know what Gary saw in him. A lot of people give a lot of shit to Faust, but he is playing out of position. Whats Pankeys excuse? He was out for 2yrs? Transfer please…

*All Terp Everything*

by asianterp on Feb 25, 2012 5:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

PANKEY IS A FRESHMAN.

Seriously, “transfer please?” You think he’s got zero potential, no hope that he can turn into a solid, if even reserve, player? He has 3 years left! He’s got a whole offseason coming up to work on strength and conditioning and post moves! Why are you giving up on the guy? Do you realize that on most ACC teams he would have rode the bench the entire season, because he’s a raw freshman? It’s not his fault our depth is so bad and he’s had to play so much. Obviously there’s a ton he can improve on – guess what, you can say the same thing about 95% of freshmen! Give the guy a break, these players need our support, not hate.

Any given day.

by terpfan92 on Feb 25, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed...

I love asianterp but comments like this shows us why there should be a dislike button on this site.

by nmcvicker03 on Feb 25, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly...

Him being on the court has nothing to do with his potential or ability. In ordinary circumstances, he wouldn’t get much time until his Junior season. He’s a Gary Williams project type, but unfortunately Gary Williams left a team filled with projects, and none of them ready for prime time.

If we are patient, in due time Pankey will be a solid player.

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 25, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus/Minus on Pankey

Has to be awful. I cringe whenever he’s in the game, figuring that it will cost us points. Even Weis looked better than him today.

by mercator88 on Feb 25, 2012 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

Soft fouls

The two soft fouls in the second half by Pankey where the shooters get AND1 on layups didn’t help either.

by dlew on Feb 25, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Is NIT a longshot?

Obviously if we win the tournament will get a bid, but Im just going to be relaxed and patient with this team through the rest of the year.

by proudterp on Feb 25, 2012 5:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Not a longshot, no

Worst case we’re on the bubble.

by Ben Broman on Feb 25, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Think we need to beat UVA, win 1 acct game at the very least to get in to NIT

by terpsfan06 on Feb 25, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like

we’re a solid NIT team at worst.

But I believe Stoglin will channel his inner Jon Gilchrist during the ACC tourney.

I like Turtles!

by RedTurtle on Feb 25, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

One Big Plus

I watched Faust in high school, and I watched him nail 3 point shots like it was his job. His jumper today, and in the past couple games looks MUCH better.

by Brendan Plutschak on Feb 25, 2012 5:25 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I get that MD lacks a true PG and sorely needs a consistent secondary scorer.

But the second halves of the past two road games have been mind-boggling bad—5 for 25 FG against UVA, 7-30 today.

by Jason Middlekauff on Feb 25, 2012 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

Gotta face facts...

our ncaa hopes, although slim anyway, ended unless we win out and probably have to win the acct or at least knock off a duke or a unc and get to the finals. you can’t go 1-8 on the road and make it to the dance. Here’s hoping we don’t end up 6-10 in the acc which is very likely right now.

This loss is everyone’s fault, even turgeon has to take responsibility for not getting these guys up to play against g tech. I don’t want turgeon to come out and just blame players i want him to take responsibility too.

by nmcvicker03 on Feb 25, 2012 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

6-10 in the acc and an NIT would be a decent year, considering the Pe'shon injury

Remember how bad our prospects were before the season. Or as we almost lost to radford and MSM…

by terpapins on Feb 25, 2012 5:37 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

still hard to swallow though.

When was the last time we lost 10 acc games? I can’t even remember.

by nmcvicker03 on Feb 25, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Were you not expecting this?

This is why Gary retired. Because he knew this would be a very bad team. Everyone expected this team to be this bad. Did you not expect this?

Children should be seen and not heard.

by CharlesDriesell on Feb 25, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, folks. Gary williams coached 30+ years and decided to retire cause he was going to have a bad team

Nothing like ignoring the fact that he had been considering retirement for about 5 years before…but no that doesn’t fit with the narrative of always blame gary

by Asnis71 on Feb 25, 2012 11:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions   2 recs

Its not JUST because he was going to have a bad team

Gary himself said he was wrestling with the decision since the natty. The overall state of the team and J-Will leaving were the straws that broke the camel’s back.

by terpsallday on Feb 26, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes I was. I did not make this comment as a GW>Turge

or vice versa, that is for the drones to complain and argue about. I merely said it is tough to take, because it is. You can say what you want, but this loss is one that is inexcusable. You shouldn’t lose to a team that is 9-18 and had won 2 out of 13 acc games. I’m not complaining about the lack of talent etc. this is on everyone, you can’t blame a previous regime (no matter how hard you try) in the 28th game of the season.

by nmcvicker03 on Feb 26, 2012 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Just want to say that if Gary stayed

We would be looking at a team with Gibbs, Bruenig (sp), and Hawk in addition to our present team. This is far different from what we have now. I actually think our record would be similar to what Turge has given us.

by Snappin Terp on Feb 26, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

We did experience losing ACC seasons when Gary was here....What kind of a comment is this

2003-2004
2004-2005
2008-2009
2010-2011

Were all seasons with 9 conference losses….Pretty close to a 10 loss season (one more made shot and we have 9 losses BTW at Miami so you can’t really say it was worse than any of those)

On a team with far less ACC ready talent than any of those we might lose 10…..I just don’t understand where you are going with this comment…..

by TurtleShel716 on Feb 25, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

First.

What does that mean a ten loss regular season in a ten loss season….

Just saying we’ve experienced basically the same thing (9-10 losses is basically the same to me since Miami could’ve gone either way, plus a few other games were close as well)…

We have experienced similar seasons under Gary was my point…It seemed like you were saying this season was worse than any of those season I listed under Gary and I have to disagree with that statement….

by TurtleShel716 on Feb 25, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Just as it took GW ten years

to build a NC contender, it took him ten years to let it all go. From ’95 to ’00 they were always on the verge of breaking through past sweet 16. And from ’06 until now they were on the verge of being bad. Well this year, they are bad.

by musicturtle on Feb 25, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that we had a lot of individual performances that we not up to par or even downright bad, but our problem with away games is with the team

It goes beyond the need for a few individuals to step it up. When other teams make runs we have the tendency to go into rope-a-dope instead of slugging our way out of it. Today, in the second half, we looked like we were playing to not lose rather than whip GT. We tried a press for awhile. I don’t know why we stopped.

To me, its the coaches that have to get us to be more aggressive as a team.

by wmterp on Feb 25, 2012 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

X and O

Would love to see a “go to” play. Clear out a side and have Parker isolated. May make him be aggressive. Something!

by dlew on Feb 25, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't have any problem with a go-to play in a particular situation

I just think it should be part of a bigger change in team aggressiveness

by wmterp on Feb 25, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather have Faust isolated on a wing

He seems a lot more confident with the ball than Parker. I’d love to run a couple alley oop plays for Parker tho. When he’s fired up, he plays A LOT better

by terpsallday on Feb 25, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Would take it

Just doesn’t feel like any of these types of adjustments are in the mix. Not busting on Turge – I’m on board with the we’ve overachieved this year vibe!

by dlew on Feb 25, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

So frustrating

Second straight weekend on the road in which we have totally laid an egg in the second half. I don’t get it, especially after coming off solid wins vs BC and Miami. Big guys need to step up and be stronger. I get it that Pankey has not played for 2 years and was a great unknown coming into the year, but damn, at least show some interest when you’re on the floor. We should never lose to that team. I also wonder why we set up a press and then pull drop back out of it after just one pass.

by longerthanu on Feb 25, 2012 5:51 PM EST reply actions  

What offense?

If Mosley wasn’t out his arse in the first half, it would have been really ugly. Do you feel the fact that we get very little out of the high screen (other than getting our guards double teamed 25 feet from the basket) is due to the players execution or the play design by the coaching staff?

by dlew on Feb 25, 2012 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

Keep in mind this is basically GW's team,

reflecting several years of unenergetic (at best) recruiting. Until MT’s guys dominate don’t expect much and you won’t be disappointed.

by nonstopjoe on Feb 25, 2012 5:56 PM EST reply actions  

Yep

Agree. Because it has been better than expected, it has us wanting more! We should be rolling pretty good in another 2 years. Hard to be patient.

by dlew on Feb 25, 2012 6:00 PM EST reply actions  

Terps are not going to the dance.

Never were. Turgeon knew. It just took us homers ‘till now to figure it out. We have one, ONE legitimate ACC starter in Stoglin. Why is he the leading scorer in the ACC? Because he had to be. He scored 18 today and it wasn’t good enough. We have 2 freshmen who have the potential to be starters (but not this year) in Faust and Len and that’s it. The whole rest of the team would be 4-year bench warmers on any team that was a reasonable contender. This team has accomplished more with less than pretty much anybody else in the conference, and that’s due to coaching. I don’t want to hear “coach should make them do XYZ” because what they’ve already done is above their abilities. You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. Not even Turgeon can. It’s time to invoke the traditional chant of MD football: “Just wait until next year!”

by retlag on Feb 25, 2012 6:01 PM EST reply actions  

Or maybe the year after.

by retlag on Feb 25, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as Pe' stays healthy

I think we can be a borderline top 25 team next year. Shaq will help with controlling the paint and glass. Len moves to his natural 4 sopt. Faust will start at the 3 with Parker and Layman behind him. Stogs at the 2 with Faust and Allen behind him. Pe’ being the starting PG with Allen and Stogs behind him.

by terpsallday on Feb 25, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Davin

Benched 23 times at combine. Not bad, not great.

by grasshugger7 on Feb 25, 2012 6:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

total trap game

Vegas is something else….

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Feb 25, 2012 6:13 PM EST reply actions  

I'll take my chances with Stogs getting hot

then trying to feed inept big men. You should never let Berend or Parky shoot, and what is Parker supposed to be doing?

by TerpCity on Feb 25, 2012 6:41 PM EST reply actions  

Best chance to go far in ACCT, IMO

Maryland gets the 8th seed, which by my calculations is the worst they can do even if we lose out.

Duke beats UNC in Cameron to win the ACC reg. season title, gets the No. 1 seed.

Maryland plays VT in first round of ACC tourney, then Duke. Duke, while not very beatable, is a team that MD has proven they can hang with. Also, Duke is a very streaky team. When they’re not shooting lights out (re. Miami, VT today) they can be beaten.

MD beats Duke, gets either UVA or Miami in semis.

by aholla30 on Feb 25, 2012 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

I honestly don't know what to say

This team just stresses me the fuck out. (excuse the cursing). But seriously, how the hell did we lose this? You could’ve SWORE the Miami game would be such a confidence booster. This game could’ve had us in a 3 way tie smh. I really can’t believe we lost this.

On Pankey, yall need to chill out. Did yall forget that he hasn’t played for 2 years. Just last game against Miami yall were all praising him, now yall are saying he sucks? C’mon now. Yall did the same with Pe’, praise him one game, then say he sucks and is horrible the next. Pankey did do some things a bit bad tonight, but i think it’s real fucked up to say he sucks and needs to transfer and leave, and all the mean things you all are saying about him, when he is just a fucking FRESHMAN. Not everyone is amazing as a freshman, and he has tons of time to improve.

Stoglin’s been off a few games. I don’t know what’s up. His late 3 pointer was a possession too late.
Mosley was HOT in the first half, going off. 2nd half he disappeared. I like the combo of Berend and Alex, but both need work imo.
I wanted Padgett in late in the game. He probably would’ve made some of the MANY msised layups.

You can tell that Faust playing the point is tiring him, just watch him. He’s not used to it.

Overall, i’m very upset we lost this game. Words can’t even express how shocked i am that we seriously lost. As optimistic as i’ve been, it’s time to be real now and say we have NO shot of making the tournament. Even winning against UNC and UVA, won’t do it. I’m ready for next years guys and hopefully EVERYONE improves in the offseason.

by terp10 on Feb 25, 2012 6:56 PM EST reply actions  

seriously, we WiSHED they were a tournament team before the season started...

but we knew otherwise. then they win some games and have some flashes and all of a sudden every loss is a train wreck? WHOAaaaaa… !!!! once again, simmer down there, Tex. no offense again, TerpsnTex.

how were we expecting them NOT to make it to the tournament…?
answer: by losing some games that we figured they could/would win.
and they still overachieved. it’s hilarious when a guy has a bad game that he suddenly needs to transfer out. players develop. grievis is the best example. remember cheering in the stands before being blindsided by his 6-7 WTH moments every game. right now Turgeon is hamstrung at this point because each player is incomplete. he’s forced to rest every single game on the performance of 3 freshman and a sophmore. no choice there and they each get a minimum of +20 minutes a night. so now its the end of the acc season and stoglin is tired. faust is tired. even Len is tired. by the way, that was an ACC away game.
i know it sucked to lose but cut them some slack.

by space_ on Feb 25, 2012 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly

Even with the ups and downs this year…this is the first game they “should” have won that they have lost. And there are only two games left. So some perspective is definitely needed. This is not John Gilchrist and Co. mailing it in a few times against Clemson but beating Duke on national TV. This team is rebuilding and still competing, its frustrating but acting like we didn’t see this coming is just fooling yourself.

by musicturtle on Feb 25, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a program in transition...

…deal with it. Until Turgeon gets players more purely his style and not Williams’, this will be frustrating. I’m patient.

Unless this team completely collapses, an NIT bid is likely. Despite recent struggles, Maryland still is a name program from an elite conference.

by vp19 on Feb 25, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

GT was the worst team in the AcC and we lost

This just sucks. Dissapointed with the way turg managed the game. Wish we had Sean miller running the show instead

by Mighty MD on Feb 25, 2012 9:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

w/ hard work, a few breaks, talent

I feel Turge will win a Natty b4 Miller does.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Feb 26, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I wish we had Larry Brown

But I’ll take Turge as a close second

by Snappin Terp on Feb 26, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

The b igs

We cannot survive with bigs that cannot handle entry passes and cannot finish, they must be able to finish. That said, I am as glad to see the progress just as I am frustrated at the tail of 2 halves of every game. Right now 4 me it is the bigs. They must produce something for this team to compete. Padgett cannot do it alone. GO TERPS!

by lngtmterpman on Feb 25, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Pre-season ACC picks

Basically MD was picked 10th or worse on all the preseason polls. I have watched every game, save the Virginia game and last Duke game, they were competitive in all other games, something I thought would have been impossible at the beginning of the year. I still feel they have one big upset left in the them. I agree with ingmterpman, we have no bigs rights now, young and raw. They will get better, but they are tough to watch right now especially Pankey. At this point in the season, you should grasp some defense and offense rotations. He is still clueless and killed the team in the 2nd half. Len will be unreal next year and Cleare will be a monster on the boards. Turge will have these guys playing great D, his Tex A&M teams were absolute shut down defenders.

by IUterpfan on Feb 25, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

Defense and Offensive Sets for the Terps

I thought Maryland was frustrating today in the fact that our bigs played poorly in the second half. When you are struggling to score you need to be able to go inside for a bucket.
My bigger question is about the defense played by our bigs. We seem to jump out very high when the opposition moves out past the three point line, and then our rotation back to the inside seems very poor. I think we need to do a better job staying at home. Other than Ryan Kelly few ACC bigs are going to shoot the three.
On the offensive end I think Mark Turgeon should make the Terps watch the Lady Terps vs Duke in the second half. That is the kind of ball movement and effort on the glass that we need to bring every night. Also I think we should run more three men on the baseline two out top offense instead of all high screen roll.

by idepijj on Feb 26, 2012 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

How many layups

did we miss in the second half??? 10? 15?

by curterp on Feb 26, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree

How can someone grow up thinking they want to be a head coach? Both Turg and GT’s coach were having mild heart attacks. Down the stretch when an average effort my MD could have foiled Tech’s come back as they turned the ball over four times their coach looked pale at best. Totally agree with the author’s assessment of the individual players contributions. We all saw the weaknesses especially evident were the poor shooting attempts.I think at times the announcers were being kind to Stog attaching the moniker of highest shooting average in the ACC when Udofi couldn’t get off the schnide. But then Udofo did. He showed us what a slasher can do. I don’t think it’s fair to say Stoglin is limited to players at a lower level but when he has to create something from a static offense he’s much easier to handle. His three’s were not only poor they were gasping for air, literally. Doubtful that Howard would make a difference since he added very little range to anybody’s offense. Mosley does what he has always done and that’s all one can expect from him. Will Faust be a big time threat someday? OK, I’ll compare him to Rivers and say absolutely not Can he be a much improved smarter player, yes. What was most glaring with Len and Branden in there was the total domination by the two GT forwards on defense. No one could handle the guy with the ball in the corner, H something or other. It was embarrassing. Padge I gotta say you need to speed up your isolation play. Against a team like Duke that would double up you’ll be freaking out. Your moves are like a the two step when everyone else is hip hoppin;‘. OK poor analogy but the idea is you’re so slow in developing the shot and Len is likely the worst offensive big with his back to the board ever. he should have one job and one only and that’’s rebounding. The thing is a lot of much better teams than the Terps look the same when they’re down. Discombobulated. No disrespect I don’t want to play Pankey one and one but really what is your role? Why is everyone seemingly either way outside spread or converged in the middle giving Stog no room? Watched K play Mz. While Mz was winning and running circles around Self’s team they had options. They kept the court open. That means they had the d on their heels. Still it’s encouraging to see the coach hang in there and the boys hand in there under difficult circumstances. They are after all just kids in my book. They’re not Alan Iveson and Ray Allen. Faust stood out for biggest balls. I like his toughness. I like his mannerism to keep keeping at it.

by WhodunIt? on Feb 26, 2012 8:22 AM EST reply actions  

Goodness gracious Paragraphs PLEASE!!!

I don’t even feel like reading this giant mess of a post ….. and I know people have made this comment before on your posts so i don’t know why you keep trying to write in this format…

Maybe you have some reasonable and intelligent thoughts….. but frankly I don’t give a shit because b/t the paragraphs and the random jumping from thought to thought I can’t follow this.

Just a friendly tip…

by TurtleShel716 on Feb 26, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

he gets +1

for spelling discombobulate right. That’s the only word I read in the blur of a post! lmao

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Feb 26, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Not Turge's team

I think it is clear that Turge has no heart for this team. They, by and large, are not players he would have recruited, and he does not believe in them. I think he loves Faust, but is frustrated by his shooting woes. He loves Mosley as a person, but can’t stand the way he disappears from games. He appreciates Stog’s scoring ability, but hates everything else about his game. He likes Parker’s athleticism, but there’s nothing else positive about his game. I don’t believe he has any good feelings about any of the bigs, except Len’s potential. I believe we won’t see any great improvement until Turge gets his type of players, players who would refuse to lose to a last place conference team. I think that’s what he sees in guys like Allen and Dodd.

Yesterday proved we have no such players. There was no one who stepped up and refused to lose. Duke recruits those type of players, and Coach K does not tolerate anything less. That’s why they rarely lose games they are not supposed to. I don’t think Turge will tolerate it either.

by jlowenc on Feb 26, 2012 10:17 AM EST reply actions  

Well .....

This is what “his” players are doing this year.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/teams/tan/schedule

I think Turge was the perfect replacement for Gary. I like them both. But winning takes a combination of factors. I don’t agree that Turge inherited a terrible team. He got a middle of the pack team, I would even say mediocre, but not terrible. The team has some nice pieces: scorer (stogglin), senior leadership (moseley), athleticism (faust, parker). Bigs are probably subpar.

What gary left behind is doing much better than what Turge left behind. Anyway, I think most fans really like what Turge is doing and are willing to wait to see better results. Personally, I’ve enjoyed watching this years team more than last years.

by snowterp91 on Feb 27, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

At least one positive to take from this game

is that Faust’s 3pt stroke looks SO much better than it did earlier in the year.

by Hardman on Feb 26, 2012 3:43 PM EST reply actions  

wonder if it's heads getting too big....

they have a big game and then come down to earth with a below-their-standard performance. that’s youth. inconsistent. l

by space_ on Feb 27, 2012 9:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Disappointing, but . . .

8th place and competitive is pretty good for this team, and we’ve shown we can be dangerous in the tournament. Sucks to not be in contention at the top, but this wasn’t ever going to be a one year turn-around.

by dmor20 on Feb 27, 2012 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

This.

We all expected 5-11 to 7-9 seasons in the ACC this year. Hell, I think almost everyone predicted 15 wins at the most this year, so I have no idea why everyone is getting bent out of shape over this season. This season is already better than anyone expected, just because we lost to a team we weren’t supposed to doesn’t change that. The team is young and inconsistent, but have shown that they can play with the best, now they just need to keep that intensity for when they play the worst.

by djcarv2005 on Feb 27, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I've gotta agree with this.

At some point, you just have to come to the realization that (a) your team is really young and (b) some years are just learning years. Wins are a bonus. I look at my years of Orioles fandom as training for the lean years in College Park.

Yes, it’s frustrating when players show regression. But even that is tempered when the player goes from one good game / one bad game to two good games / one bad game and on and on.

by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 27, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

you had to bring up the o's...

thats like bringing up someones dead mother in a conversation. I keep saying one day….

by nmcvicker03 on Feb 27, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, dem O's!!

I put my fandom on the shelf many years ago, because of the pile of human excrement they have as an owner. I always say I’d gladly comeback when/if Cal takes control of the reigns, but that looks less and less likely as the years go on.

I’m trying to be a good Nats fan now, but it’s hard to go hardcore when your best prospect(B. Harper) admits to being a duke fan, just to piss off the hometown crowd.

by 1 proud terp on Feb 27, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Aw, damnit!
I’m trying to be a good Nats fan now, but it’s hard to go hardcore when your best prospect(B. Harper) admits to being a duke fan, just to piss off the hometown crowd.

I didn’t even know that.

At least Strasburg isn’t a Duke fan.

by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 27, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

at least the terps have Turge

The orioles are doomed forever with angelos as owner.

by LeftyCouldCoach on Feb 27, 2012 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

Well, I don't know about forever. I mean, Angelos isn't the cryptkeeper... I don't think.

It’s more like Debbie Yow. At some point, Angelos will move on and then the O’s can go about healing the organization. Hopefully they don’t hire a manager from the National League West or American League Central who has no track record of high-end success and is likely to alienate half of the players…

by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 27, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

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