So, Did Maryland Just Get a Commitment from Someone Named Damonte Dodd?
by Ben Broman on Feb 21, 2012 11:38 PM EST
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Talk about an exciting night for Maryland basketball. First the big win over Miami, and then a commitment? It's like Christmas morning.
Or, at least, I think there's a commitment.
Damonte Dodd, a 6-9 center from Queen Anne's County HS, is now listed as a Maryland commitment on Rivals. And ... that's all we know. I know he wasn't listed as a commitment earlier today (was doing some research on a Nick Faust piece), but to be completely honest I've never heard the name before tonight. There's a premium paywall-ed story on him on Rivals, which says he's joining Maryland. But that's the only sign of him in their database - or any other database - meaning there's a good chance that profile was just created today.
To get right to the meat of the matter, let me just say this: I have no idea what's going on. I would assume it's a full, legit scholarship commitment, because A) I doubt they'd specifically create a page for a walk-on, and B) he's listed as having an offer. At the same time, I've literally never heard of him before and I have no idea if he had any other offers and/or interest from anywhere else. (He doesn't appear to.) It's certainly not a common scenario. And we've been burnt on these types of things before.
It's a mystery, really. Use caution until we're walking on more solid ground, meaning confirmation from somewhere else.
Update, 11:47: An apparent QA grad says Dodd's coach has confirmed the commitment, FWIW.
Update, 12:35: And another premium, paywall-ed confirmation. The phrasing in the headline and teaser - "snag" and "commitment" in particular - definitely make it seem like it's a scholarship deal. Looks like that's that, then.
It'll all be clearer in a few days, I'm sure, if not a few hours. In the meantime: if he's not on scholarship, it's not a huge deal, as it basically means he's just a preferred walk-on. If he is on scholarship, I imagine there will be some flexibility, meaning he could redshirt or prep or greyshirt or whatever depending on scholarship and/or playing time needs. Still, you'd think this probably ends the recruitment of Charles Mitchell even if only due to the scholarship numbers of it, unless the staff thinks that there will certainly be a departure in the offseason (Len going back to Europe ala Hawk Palsson or Ashton Pankey transferring are the only things I could imagine).
As for Dodd: he's listed as 6-9 and 230, which is elite size for a 4 and perfectly acceptable size for a 5 at this level. He plays for Queen Anne's County HS out in Centreville, which is on the Eastern Shore. Now, I'm far from an expert on Shore basketball, but something is telling that it isn't great. Are we talking Torrington, CT (Jordan Williams) not great, Howard County not great, wherever Jake Layman plays not great, or something else entirely? I don't know. But it's worth mentioning that he's probably the tallest kid by three inches almost every time he steps out on the floor.
He is putting up big numbers, though. He's averaging 24 points, 16 rebounds, and 6 blocks a game. To be expected with that size? Maybe. But still pretty impressive in their own way.
I know nothing else about him. So I won't pretend like I do. I'll say this, though: you have to assume that Maryland isn't going out and offering random kids from the Shore. This isn't Mark Turgeon's first rodeo, nor Spinelli's or Bino's. They've seen him, multiple times, multiple coaches. I don't know this in the sense that I have firm evidence of it, but I know it because there's simply no other way they'd hand out a scholarship. So, if this is a scholarship offer, what it really comes down to is this: do you trust Mark Turgeon's evaluation ability? Given that evaluation was his calling card at Texas A&M, I do.
You can't teach size, or athleticism. If Dodd has both, I'm assuming they feel he can mold him. The Shore gets, I'm assuming, basically no college scouts - Andre Collins is the only guy I can remember from out there, and he was setting state scoring records if I recall correctly - and it doesn't appear that Dodd played AAU over the summer. There would be basically no way for him to exposure, so it's tough to judge. Talent is talent, though, no matter where it is.
I'm guessing they feel they have a diamond in the rough here, and think it's worth taking a chance.
We'll have more going forward. In the meantime, now seems like a good time to mention that Maryland did add another player: Conner Lipinski, a 5-10 point guard from Annapolis Area Christian, committed to the Terrapins as a preferred walk-on. If you're wondering what a preferred walk-on is: basically a scholarship player in every aspect except the scholarship. No trying out, for example, and other such rigamarole. Lipinski will likely fill the role that Jonathan Thomas and Jon Dillard, both seniors, have been occupying in practice this year.
I have to say, this is the strangest basketball recruiting post I've ever written.
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I know i know every one brings this up
but if they want to trash turge, let me tell you a story about a no-name, skinny guard from baltimore who happened to dive for a ball late in a game already decided at the right time in front of a coach looking at a teammate.
Crazier things have happened and the coaching staff knows a heck of a lot more about this stuff than me
by terps3030 on Feb 21, 2012 11:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Damn
Terps3030 you just brought a huge smile to my face. Whatever happened with that skinny kid? Or that coach? Aside from a number of beautiful banners hanging from our rafters.
I love the McDonald’s All Americans that we will start to get but lets not forget about the “Burger King All Americans” who rolled through the 2002 NCAA tournament.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1025461/2/index.htm
by TL77 on Feb 21, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Love this one quote by Nicholas about Juan's 33 points against Kansas in the Final Four.
“Can you say a guy had a quiet 33?” Terps guard Drew Nicholas asked afterward. “Everything he got was in the context of the offense. It was amazing.”
And I think that is what Turgeon is trying to get Stogs to understand – that he can get his 20+ per game “in the context of the offense”. It doesn’t have to be a solo performance.
Fear the Turgle!
Indeed
Loved the play where he pulled up for a 3 form the top of the key, then quick fired a pass inside to Nick for a lay-in. Brilliant.
How many times did he pull the ball out in spots where he would have forced it mere weeks ago? He is growing up big-time.
I think even stogs was shocked by that one.
but that play somes up what we need form him. how many more open shots and lay ups can we get with that type of unselfish play. just think, he was still able to get 17 shots but the majority of them were good shots.
Excellent point.
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by John Stephens on Feb 22, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
uhhhh Juan as a top 100 player...
@ChilledOnTheRox
by Meraj Chowdhury on Feb 22, 2012 7:17 AM EST up reply actions
Well put it this way
Turge and Co are now recruiting some of the top players in the country and that includes some excellent bigs like Mitchell, Meeks, Woodson, Anya and such and after watching him play two times(Well Turge and Bino) they felt comfortable enough with him to give him a commit able offer.
That is more than enough for me, and it should be for you skeptics as well.
i'm not concerned
turge knows what he’s doing. if he thinks that this guy is worthy of a scholarship, then he’s worthy of a scholarship
And to top it all off, he has a Mike Brey-esque profile pic.
I don’t know what to make of all this….
Len and Pankey are freshmen…. Shaq coming in. Hope they didn’t guarantee this guy a lot of playing time.
Didn't say this well in the post, but I would assume that's part of the appeal
A kid from QA with no other big offers will be willing to prep a year or redshirt, right? So if there’s not enough playing time it isn’t a big deal. At the same time, it doesn’t really matter if he’s a project if guys like Pankey, Len, and Shaq can handle all the PT for now.
Of course....
You could always play Shaq and Len at the 5 and Pankey and Dodd at the 4. Nuthin’ wrong with that. Pretty sure we did something similar during the Natty run. Baxter/Randle and Wilcox/Somebody.
Fear the Turgle!
Agreed
But I’d love to see the Terps address a woeful 3 pt. percentage. I’d like to see at least one player who can stroke it from deep.
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FWIW, I stumbled upon his track and field stats while looking for a video of him playing
http://www.athletic.net/trackandfield/Athlete.aspx?AID=3375378
Anyone know anything about T&F? Is a 44’ triple jump good (Sounds superhuman, but I know less than nothing about T&F)?
after just a quick search for high school T+F records
it seems the all time high school triple jump record is like 55 inches. so yea, 44 for a 6-9 guy is insane
That's a 40 Foot Triple Jump and a 44 Foot Shot Put
Both of which appear to be much more impressive than you or I could do, but not really state champion type good.
by MountainTerp on Feb 22, 2012 3:03 AM EST up reply actions
guys his size
shouldnt be triple jumping at 40 feet. or at least that’s my understanding.
Dodd came in
3rd for shot put, 5th for triple jump – excellent for a guy his size. Even to be corrdinated enough to do triple jump is impressive! lol
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by bball purist on Feb 22, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, that is very good.
I was Captain of my Track Team and we had a guy win States with a 44’ Triple Jump. Coaches started coming out of the woodwork making him offers. Sadly, he opted not to go to college, but his kid is a hell of an athlete.
Now, I can also say that 44’ is seriously good for a guy that weighs 230. This tells me he has speed AND can elevate. So, if he has raw skills and is scoring/rebounding big time right now, safe to say Turge and Company found a diamond in the rough.
Fear the Turgle!
way better answer than mine
when is the last time we had a leaper? like a ty thomas guy from LSU
Wilcox could sky.
Len Bias is the only other one that seemed to take flight that I can remember. Man I miss Lennie.
Fear the Turgle!
Wilcox as well as...
The all time leader in vertical jump at MD: James Gist. He passed Bias as a senior I think.
Wilcox, Francis, and Gist could fly
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by John Stephens on Feb 22, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah it is really good, the best I ever jumped and I did it a grand total of once was 40’1" . I am still convinced the Earth moved a foot for me that day. So yeah this kid can jump.
I just stood up and took a jump in my office.
I swear by all that is sacred and holy that I got at least 4.0" off the floor.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 22, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
More info
sorry if this was already mentioned in the fanpost, as I haven’t read it
He’s got a 7’2’’ wingspan and did not play for a big time AAU program, so by all means, this is a Gary level recruit-finding a diamond in a rough that is being overlooked because of lack of exposure and turning them into a serviceable college player.
We can only hope for that last part to come true.
7'2" is pretty damn good.
That’s about like Anya, if I recall.
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What the hell?
I thought wingspan was supposed to be roughly similar to height?!
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 22, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
Not always
See Jones, Jon Bones in UFC
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espn did a sports science moment the other day. javale mcgee has a 7'7 wing span.
the longest in the nba. the said his reach from end to end was taller than yao ming’s entire body. mcgee is a 7’ footer. anya is 6’ 8" but a larger wingspan. not sure how to approach that but wow.
If you are comparing Anya to McGee
I don’t want him! haha
by djcarv2005 on Feb 22, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol mcgee might struggle sometimes
but he would probably average close to 10 blocks a game in college right now
by formerlyknownasjinsookim on Feb 22, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
well just a height comparison.
what if anya is still growing?
That is possible.He is only 16 or 17
Males stop growing completely around 24 or 25. Look at Anthony Davis last year. End of junior year – unknown 6’3" guard. 7 in. growth spurt Senior year – 6’10" with 7’4" wingspan. I can see him still growing about 2 more inches.
I trust Turge
And whenever someone who he thinks will be a good addition to Maryland basketball decides to play for Maryland, I’m excited. I do agree with Ben that Turge is maybe seeing some program attrition. I really hope it isn’t Len though. Until he proves otherwise, color me happy every time anyone commits…
But it’d be nice if the next scholarship we handed out was to someone (or someones) named Harrison.
Shore recruits
Admittedly, the Eastern Shore isn’t exactly a hotbed of basketball recruits, but I think Albert Mouring — a shooting guard out of Colonel Richardson High in Caroline County — ought to be listed, if you include Collins. … About 10 years ago, Williams and the Terps were going hard after Mouring, but he chose UConn, and had a decent career with Jim Calhoun. … There IS some talent on the Shore, it just may not be as thick as in the urban areas.
Albert..
was a flat out STUD!!! He was a year behind me in school and had an offer from Maryland. Gary backed off because he wasnt gonna qualify (he didnt). So he goes to UCONN and is 2nd all time in 3pt pct there (behind Ray Allen). Why is he important? Well, we (terps) gave his scholarship to another guy who didn’t qualify…Juan Dixon. That being said, the shore DOES have talent!
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1997-02-01/sports/1997032070_1_mouring-respect-richardson
http://terrapinstats.com/bb/profile.cfm?playerid=336
So what does our Scholarship situation look like for 2013 and 2014 now?
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Georgetown and seton hall have been to see him quite a bit
Along with various others calling about him daily. Either way, I don’t think Turgenev has the luxury of giving a ship out to someone who will ride the pine for 4-5 years. We have enough dead weight on the team already. It does make me think that there will be atleast one given his walking papers. And I am sure Turgeon won’t let anyone transfer to Vandy either.
Dead weight?
Dude is 6-9, 230. That is great size for a big in college, so they must feel that he has the basic skills necessary for them to mold into a good player, or already has the skills to come in and contribute. Just because a recruiting agency missed a player doesn’t mean that they aren’t good. He didn’t play AAU, which is almost a prerequisite to get any sort of favorable grade from a major recruiting service now days.
I’m not pretending like I know anything about him, but to call him dead weight already is a bit premature. He could very likely redshirt a year and start giving good minutes by his sophomore/junior seasons.
I think that Memphis is saying the same thing you are
Georgetown and Seton Hall are interested = not dead weight. We don’t have room to just take on someone who won’t play = not dead weight. Our current roster already has dead weight [and so we wouldn’t take more of it] = not dead weight.
gotcha, my bad
thought he was saying the opposite.
I think a lot of the dead weight from this year is leaving (walk ons and weijs come to mind). Although at least Weijs isn’t as terrible as last year.
More Confirmation?
“Maryland’s basketball program added its fourth commit in the Class of 2012 tonight in the form of fast-rising Queen Anne (Md.) big man Damonte Dodd.”
-IMS
at least
we can use the nickname double D
by power296 on Feb 22, 2012 12:04 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like he has some serious upside (7'2 wingspan?!)
but if you think HoCo basketball is terrible, the shore is on a whole different level (seriously though, I saw some good players come through Howard County when I was in HS a few years ago). It all comes down to whether or not you trust Turge’s judgement, and I do and hope this kid pans out. Next year we should have some solid depth in the frontcourt (Pankey, Len, Padge, Shaq, Weiss) and even if we did get Mitchell, I’m not sure he would have played a whole lot.
Weijs is a senior this year...
Pankey is injury prone and often ineffective. Len could leave for the NBA early like J-Will did. And Padge will be a senior next year. Dodd will probably getting some solid PT by his Sophomore year
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Wow, I can't believe I had no idea *Weijs was a senior.
He’ll still be behind four guys next year (barring any defections), but it does look like the opportunity for some PT could be there by 2013.
If len leaves early...
Then it would be a bigger mistake than JWill leaving b/c he won’t get drafted. Give him a couple years to improve.
by testudo4lunch on Feb 22, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
By "improve", I assume you're including "add 25 lbs. of muscle"...
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 22, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
Just 25?
haha, j/k.
He needs to work on hand strength for sure though, he can’t hold on to a rebound to save his life. It is to the point where he tips it out in hopes that a guard catches it.
Had to reply to this one...
Howard County basketball might be terrible (your words, not mine), but the Bayside Conference isn’t. Boys basketball state titles just since 1999:
1999- North Dorchester (1A) (Note: The now infamous Carlton Dotson was on this team; though he eventually went D1, he was not its best player though)
2000- Crisfield (1A) Andre Collins (d!)
2001- Snow Hill (1A) (As an aside, WiHi lost the 2A state title game by two points to Dunbar that year, when Dunbar didn’t have to inbound the ball as time ran out. Great game.)
2002- Pocomoke [1A blew out Dunbar; Pocomoke had Eddie Miller, who went D1 (Fresno St.)]; WiHi (2A blew out some PG County team; WiHi had Craig Winder, who went to D1 Texas, and three other kids who played at four year schools)
2003- James M. Bennett [2A; Bennett had a D1 kid named John Holmes (yes, that was his name)]; incidentally Dunbar beat Pocomoke by 16 in the 1A state final that year.
2008- Snow Hill (1A). Undefeated and unchallenged. Absolutely loaded basketball team. Could have played with anybody. Yes, anybody.
As an aside, Bennett tried to repeat in ‘04 and lost by 8 (I think) in the semifinals to a LOADED Friendly team with Sam Young and also Jarrett Jack’s younger brother.
Dunbar has defeated Bayside teams three time in state semifinal games during that span.
And if you’d ever seen the 1996 Cambridge-SD team (which destroyed Albert Mouring and Colonel three times that year) you would not disrespect an entire league like you just did. I don’t know much about Howard County basketball, but I know enough about the Bayside to know the rest of the state in 1A and 2A don’t scare us.
To the point, now: Dodd isn’t that good. He’s a project. Nowhere near as talented as many players before, but he has size and hopefully a good head on his shoulders. One of his relatives (not sure, think grandfather) played D1 years ago, and was supposedly 6-11. I don’t think Dodd is an ACC player, to be quite honest. But the Maryland staff probably knows better than me.
by dc207 on Feb 22, 2012 2:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ask Keith Booth...
…about how good Bayside basketball was when he was a senior at Dunbar.
Bayside basketball
My alma mater Stephen Decatur plays in the 3a east, along with Bennett and hoco teams. In 2010 we won the region beating 4 hoco teams consecutively despite being the 3rd best bayside team that year. There are alot of scrub also rans but the top teams in the Bayside can are on par with the Howard county every year. That aside, the conference doesnt usually produce umd caliber talent but this kid looks like someone who can develop into a solid player.
by terpnation5 on Feb 22, 2012 3:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
there is no size.
look at washington high this year. winning games without anyone over 6 ft in the starting lineup….. and if theres anyone we should have been looking for from the shore it should have been their guards
by (adm)iregary on Feb 22, 2012 7:10 AM EST up reply actions
Didn't mean to disrespect an entire conference,
just know what I’ve seen since my high school days (‘04-). I don’t know much about HoCo either, just what I’ve seen at the 3A level. I went to Annapolis and we play in the 3A East region with a couple Shore teams (JM Bennett, Decatur), and they never made much noise in the playoffs while I was there (I know Decatur had a run a couple years ago when we were 4A). If Bennett can beat Hammond in their playoff game though, they’ll play Annapolis in the next round so we’ll see how they stack up against one of the better teams in Anne Arundel County (took down Upper Room Christian Academy-Rodney Purvis and all).
Lots of respect for all those 1A state championships cause I know Dunbar is a very good team every year. I meant no disrespect, very impressed by the DI talent listed, just don’t think the level of talent in the Bayside is quite the same as over here.
Bennet (with a few exceptions in the past 20 years) and Decatur are not top tier Bayside teams
And I’m not arguing it’s the same level of talent, just that it’s not a basketball wasteland and we have kids who can legit play.
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Yeah, after reading dc207's reply
I did some reading into Bayside bball and it looks like some of the teams are legit (Easton, Queen Annes in particular). I definitely didn’t think teams from the Eastern Shore could compete with a team like Dunbar and it looks like they have to an extent in the past, which is very impressive. I will no longer view Shore ball in the same light.
Wi-Hi's given Dunbar a game more than once in the state semis, iirc
Seriously – if their coach doesn’t pull some Dean Smith “Four Corners” B.S. in the 3rd quarter of that semi in 2001, Wi-Hi mighta repeated.
That said, it’s only Butch Waller’s coaching brilliance that has them at 15-7 this year. Nice kids, but not the basketball talent hes used to. Butch is nearing 700 wins. Gets there sometime next year, I bet.
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Weiss is a senior thiis year but we will have a solid four man rotation
Plus layman can swing down to help out
Next year is gonna be so sweet!
And if we get the Harrisons 2013 will be better.
Fear the Turgle!
A close friend of mine
Is assistant coach at QA, he told me a month ago that Bino had personally been out to watch him a few times and that he relayed to the staff there was definite interest from MD and that he was lead to believe an offer was forthcoming. He also relayed to me that over the last 4-6 weeks a handful of schools had been out to see him as well (high and mid-major). Honestly, when my buddy told me this, I chalked it up to due diligence, as Queen Anne’s has typically been pretty abysmal at hoops and to my knowledge has never had a player anywhere near A high D1 level (and I would be willling to wager they probably have never had anyone go D1 previously. I’ll reach out to my buddy for more intel.
by Shellshocked on Feb 22, 2012 12:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
All I care about is a Broman confirmation
@nkeninitz
by nkeninitz on Feb 22, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
can we play miami at home for every game?
after the football game we landed layman, and now dodd? i love it.
by fadizmo2435 on Feb 22, 2012 12:33 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Everyone should
wholeheartedly trust Turgeon’s evaluation of talent. And not just talent, intangibles. Turge clearly knows when a kid can or canNOT do the little things on the court. Basketball is about sense, it is about feel. It’s not always about outright athleticism and talent, especially in the front court. It is ALWAYS about the little things, that’s what wins and loses games. Turge stresses this and will look for this in all his recruits. I’m guessing that if this kid Dodd got an offer from Turge, he does all the little things to help his team win.
Turge is a riot on the sideline, great win tonight.
was listening to kevin cavenaugh(sp?) on the radio around 11:15
said g-town, seton hall had offered him and a lot of other schools were interested as well. Late-bloomer. I definitely trust turge on this. Some coaching and practicing with the team, gotta think he will be able to make an impact before not too long. Every team needs role players.
Here's an article on him from a recent game.
http://www.recordobserver.com/articles/2012/02/10/sports/200619.txt
Apparently he had back to back games with these numbers:
41 points 21 boards
35 points, 27 boards, 7 blocks.
by Joniterp on Feb 22, 2012 12:49 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Shore Basketball
I played basketball in high school on the eastern shore. The competition is extremely low. In the article it says he is the probably the biggest guy on the court by 3 inches every game. I would go as far as to say in most games he is the biggest by 6 inches. I played against him when he was a sophomore and he was extremely soft. He has grown a few inches and gotten bigger, stronger and better since then. I recently saw him play pickup and thought he could be a good division two player, but never an ACC school. I still think that his numbers are extremely inflated because of level of play. i would predict about 15 points and 12 boards a game if he played in public school on the western shore of maryland. Hes probably going to have to redshirt his first year, but with his size, he has a chance of making a difference in seasons down the road
for people on the eastern shore there is a western shore
for people on the western shore thats all of maryland
by kiguy3 on Feb 22, 2012 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I never knew you guys called us the "Western Shore"
But I guess when you think about you have to call us something. So Western Shore it is.
The sad part
is people who don’t have any respect for life on the Shore. Just keep bringing your tourist dollars down to Ocean City…my family and lineage will be just fine with that. Lets stop the disrespect though if we could
Who is this directed at?
I was just saying it’s sad ccrun1800 was unaware of the existence of the western shore of the Chesapeake Bay.
by Joe Bradshaw on Feb 22, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
I'm officially claiming
Seattle as the western shore of Maryland. Planting the flag tonight.
by LeftCoastTerp on Feb 22, 2012 1:29 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 5 recs
Geo-politics of Maryland
Let’s go with:
Eastern Shore (let’s say it’s any county that touches Delaware or a county that touches Delaware)
Southern Maryland (aka Western Shore, St. Mary’s, Charles, and Calvert)
Central Maryland (Baltimore and County, Anne Arundel, Howard, and Carroll)
Capital Area (Prince George’s and Montgomery)
Western Maryland (Frederick and west)
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 22, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
Nah
Frederick and Carroll consider ourselves Northern MD
by kryptonianjorel on Feb 22, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
i dont know where u learned ur maryland geography but
ive always known it as
eastern shore…. the peninsula
western shore…. the mainland shore of the Chesapeake(baltimore down to st marys)
by (adm)iregary on Feb 22, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
Well, I learned in St. Mary's County...
… and I can assure you, any geographic description which lumps us in with Baltimore will not be viewed in a positive light.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 22, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Bayside North doesn't count, dude.
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The Eastern Shore does have another name, by the way.
In 1991, Governor Schaefer called us the ‘shithouse’ of Maryland. I was only 15, and although I couldn’t vote, I hated his ass after that.
Growing up in Delmar (The Town Too Big for one State, as it’s known) we always called everything across the Bay Bridge the Western Shore; doesn’t make sense, but oh well. I went to college in Annapolis for two years, then graduated from Salisbury. Love my home state of Maryland, and fly my flag with pride down here in South Carolina.
Good to see the Eastern Shore get some props, though, with this commitment.
by CarolinaTerp on Feb 22, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Grew up in Caroline County...
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Why does western shore not make sense?
It refers to the portion of Maryland that is on the western side or shore of the bay.
by Joe Bradshaw on Feb 22, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I remember this.
The Eastern Shore contingent of the legislature opposed him on some legislation, which ended up passing. Schaefer caught hell in the press because someone overheard him asking an Eastern Shore legislator how things were over in the shithouse (because he had doled out money afterwards to those that had supported him). I kinda laughed about that. I mean, Eastern Shore is kinda poor relative to central MD, yet they went against the grain and took it in the ass anyways.
Politics!
Fear the Turgle!
Im just sayin
If he played in Pg county or Baltimore county his numbers are ALOT lower. i think i gave him the benefit of the doubt with those stats
Good is good.
He clearly has physical skills that er very impressive – very strong and quick. He has a nose for the basket and the ball. He can be taught to play at a higher level.
Fear the Turgle!
Haven't you heard?
Kent Island is actually in Anne Arundel County. I could spot someone from KI in a crowd of a hundred Eastern Shoremen terribly easy. It’s the dude with his nose pointed up in the air.
High School
I was the public address announcer for my sophomore junior and senior year at Cambridge South Dorchester which is in the same athletic conference as Queen Annes. Dodd also played on a travel team with one of my best friends. The kid can play but from watching him multiple times, I felt he could have been more dominant than he was. He shows a ton of upside. His outside game isn’t terrible but could definitely use some work. Not a bad find considering losing Weijs but if it’s for a scholarship, that could hurt especially in 2013 recruiting class. Also, Turgeon was apparently there visited Queen Annes after his visit to see the Harrison Twins.
Get to work Ben
we need an updated scholarship chart or something to help keep this all straight
by kryptonianjorel on Feb 22, 2012 2:26 AM EST reply actions
Don't know much about the Triple Jump
But, this site seems to have a list of a lot of high schoolers personal bests. Its clearly not comprehensive nationally, but it does have a lot of information from the east coast and 44 feet would be the third best personal best posted in Maryland this year.
As far as basketball players, Garret Sim won the state triple jump at 48 feet and then went to Oregon on a basketball scholarship at 6’2" 185 and I know Wilt Chamberlain supposedly jumped 50+ feet at Kansas, but he’s Wilt. I thought most triple jumpers were built like guards, so 6’9" with a 86 inch wingspan, this kid is probably a bit of an anomaly.
not to reply to myself...
but that’s a 40 foot triple jump and a 44 foot shot put, for any track and field gurus that want to weigh in.
by MountainTerp on Feb 22, 2012 3:04 AM EST up reply actions
Most triple jumpers and long jumpers are fast and tend to be long and lanky.
So for a guy 6’9" and 230 Lbs to be able to do this says we are getting a tremendous athlete.
Hell, I jumped 19’6" my junior year in the long jump, but that was due to my vertical rather than speed, and I’m only 5’9". To do triple jump at that weight you need both speed and vertical.
Fear the Turgle!
They won't have to work too hard
he’s a senior.
by MountainTerp on Feb 22, 2012 3:19 AM EST up reply actions
Graduation will take care of that naturally
Weijs cannot play next year. He’s a senior.
OK, well it cant happen soon enough :)
Then Len must be pulling a Hawk or they don’t like Pankey
if we were getting mitchell, we wouldnt be saying someone is peacing
it sounds like this kid is going to redshirt…
well do a
padgett/pankey/cleare/len front court
and then the year after have
pankey/cleare/len/dodd
i dont think anyone is going THIS season. and i’m not even sure anyone is going NEXT season. in two years, think about how improved pankey and len will be. that’s actually a pretty imposing frontcourt,
Mitchell
I’d much rather have Charles Mitchell than a guy from E. shore. But bodys count, especially BIGS !! LOVE the recruiting effort, but theres only so many scholarships to give out. And WE all know that walk-on’s shouldn’t be jacking up 3’s !! I’m glad we won, but no WALK – ON should ever be jacking up 3’s unless were up by 30, in the last 2 minutes of a game. Still can’t believe he shot that. Little plays like that can lose you a game in the long run.. Jack’em up at UMBC or UMES.
I recall
JWill had not faced much significant competition in HS either and that was the knock on him. Of couse, we was more known prospect and ranked about top 100 by the recrutiing services…but the point is that you shouldn’t judge a player just by the level of competition in his HS league…I’m sure Turge would not have offered him a scholly if he didn;t see something he likes. Turge has been around the block once or twice. This seems a very positive development to me….I just wish we could have found an under the radar pass-first PG, but this is nice too.
JW
He played in CONN., MASS , NH , RI , or wherever. Not a “hotbed” for recruitting college basketball players. JW made great progress at UMD. , then left. After all " GOOD " , SO.,JR, decided to stay because of the upcoming NBA LOCKOUT, not him, thought that LV would be a good place to work out.
2ND RND pick, then NJ has to send him to NBDL to trim some fat off. What was he doing in LV ?? I forgot, what happens in LV, stays in LV!! Accept weight gain !!
JWill
actually lost a ton of weight while he was in Vegas and added muscle. That’s why he left for the league (and Im sure other circumstances we know nothing about). He gained some weight during the lockout, but his body clearly wasnt ready for an NBA season yet. Also, he is no longer in the D-League.
Apparently he weighs 240 now
According to this article:
http://www.stardem.com/sports/article_83c8cd58-264d-11e1-a11d-0019bb2963f4.html
Says he added 15 lbs. of muscle to hit 240. Also love this quote:
“Anything my team needs me to do, that’s what I’m going to do,” said Dodd, who was 10-for-14 from the floor. "I needed to get stronger, so I did, and it got me ready for a good season.
WAAAAAAAY too uninformed about Bayside basketball
Now, I’m far from an expert on Shore basketball, but something is telling that it isn’t great.
Bayside’s no Baltimore City, but it ain’t Howard County, either.
But it’s worth mentioning that he’s probably the tallest kid by three inches almost every time he steps out on the floor.
No really.
More later when I check with my local b-ball peeps, but the quality of ball down here is better than your uninformed speculation.
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From Easton
The talent on the eastern shore is not as good as Baltimore. Easton has been in the state semifinals for the past two seasons and have been one of the best basketball schools in the s tate. Colonel is average. North Caroline is average. Dodd is at least 3 inches taller then everyone on the floor in every single game, and sometimes taller.
He is going to need to learn how to play against guys his size. The size is there though. The frame is there. I would think, like Ben said, that they had some sort of agreement that he will redshirt or something this year because he is going to be a kid that is coached hard, but the potential is through the roof.
by Brendan Plutschak on Feb 22, 2012 7:17 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying it;'s as good as Baltimore
I’m saying it’s not a basketball wasteland like some are trying to portray it.
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There Is Talent
But not much height.
by Brendan Plutschak on Feb 22, 2012 7:36 AM EST up reply actions
That I can agree with
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And I notice you didn't say anything abotu Bayside South... :)
Ok,. Wi-Hi’s down this year, but Pocomoke’s still Pocomoke.
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Not Many Games Against Them
The Bayside North generally plays each other except for a game or two a season. QA played 4-5 games against teams out of the North, and I think 1 or 2 of those were in tournaments. WiHi is a good school, QA just doesn’t play them twice a year or anything like that.
by Brendan Plutschak on Feb 22, 2012 7:56 AM EST up reply actions
Considering the general area we are in.
It’s pretty rough.
@nkeninitz
That's fair
I specifically said multiple times I was unaware of the talent level specifically, all I know only is generally that it isn’t great. Which I’d probably say is true.
Anyway, I’m more concerned that he apparently didn’t play AAU. I’m sure teams from the Shore could have have a great tournament with whoever Layman and Williams played in the middle of suburban New England, but Layman and JW did prove themselves at the highest levels of AAU. With Dodd, that’s still a question mark.
I Saw Talks
On facebook from a coach I believe about him wanting to get an AAU team together with the best players from the shore, but I just guess it never happened. Not sure the reasoning behind it.
by Brendan Plutschak on Feb 22, 2012 8:03 AM EST up reply actions
To get the best players from the Shore
means you’re pulling kids from up to 2.5 hours away from each other. Sure, it can be done, but it’s not like pulling all the kids from SE Baltimore together who live within 30 blocks of each other.
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Happens all the time in AAU
Baltimore kids play for DC AAU teams, for one – Phil Booth plays for MSJ and Team Takeover – and especially up in the Northeast you have kids from different states playing together. Boo Williams has kids from all over Virginia and some kids from North Carolina too. Same down in Texas and California. I really wish they’d give it another shot, because it’d make recruiting that area much more simple.
Would Be Fun
To get an AAU team here on the Eastern Shore, because there really is a lot of talent that noone knows about.
by Brendan Plutschak on Feb 22, 2012 8:23 AM EST up reply actions
Baltimore's 35 miles from DC
Crisfield is 2.5 hours from Kent County HS. BIG difference.
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For sure, but traffic makes it an unpleasant drive
The only thing it would matter for is practices, since most of the tournaments are states away anyway. Not saying it’s ready, but it may be worthwhile.
by Ben Broman on Feb 22, 2012 9:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd love to see it happen
Problem is, who’s hooked in to every Bayside and Henlopen (DE) school and has the $$$ to pull it off? You could put together quite a team from Bayside and Slower Lower….
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Bayside AAU Team
Would be pretty sick and very overrated. I watch LOTS of high school basketball and there is some real good talent over here that I think would be a pretty damn good team playing together.
by Brendan Plutschak on Feb 22, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
The Eastern Shore Perdues
There’s your sponsorship dollars.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 22, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
Company doesn't donate much to any youth sports down here
Almost a non-entity as a donor except for Mitzi’s pet projects.
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Have to say Ben...
Finances being what they are on the Eastern Shore, I doubt too many parents would support the 2 hr drive. It would make more sense to send him to live with a relative where they have an AAU team on the West Coast of MD.
Fear the Turgle!
Wicomico County's students are 55% free and reduced meals
My HS is closer to 70%. It ain’t a recession over here, it’s a straight-up depression.
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Speak for yourself.....
I live in Easton. I wish I had the link off-hand but MSN had a recent article about Easton being the 6th highest millionaires per capita in the country. Worcester County is also pretty well off. Wicomico County is pay for play but most counties on the Shore are not. The generalization of poor people on the Shore is rather demeaning.
And for my part
My natural Eastern Shore paranoia kicked in. It gets a bit tiresome when people from the other side of the Bay assume just because of our zip codes they’re naturally better, like it’s a God-given preordination. Many a Western Shore HS wrestler has found out otherwise, thankfully.
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Not all of the Western Shore is like this, though...
It’s really the Central Maryland and Capital Region areas. I know that for St. Mary’s, all of the Prince George’s, Montgomery, Anne Arundel, and Howard County teams looked at us like we were nobody scrubs.
Then we walked in and pounded a couple teams in wrestling and sent a basketball team to the state finals two years in a row.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 22, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
Trust me, Western MD acts like we don't even deserve to be in the state tournament
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You just go right ahead and ignore those guys from Delaware measuring all your highways for new toll booths...
I swear, the rumors of us selling you to them are completely “untrue”.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 22, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I, for one, welcome our new Delaware overlords
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May as well take E. Virginia while they're at it
Delaware annexes the Eastern shores of Maryland and Virginia and declares…
“All your chicken are belong to us!”
by NAmstrong on Feb 22, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
take those midget VA ponies too
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Feb 22, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
His team also lists a 6'7'' center...
So he’s not three inches taller than EVERYBODY each game.
Just sayin’…
Go Terps!
by VCTerp on Feb 22, 2012 8:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yes He Is
QA is by far the tallest team in the North Bayside, and probably on the entire Eastern Shore. I honestly can’t think of anyone on any other team that is close to being as tall as him. Our tallest player at Easton is 6’5" and he is usually the tallest player on the court in every game.
by Brendan Plutschak on Feb 22, 2012 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if this is a reaction to how well G. Whitt is playing at G Town.
Staff doesn’t want to lose the next local hidden gem.
I don't think it is a reaction to Whittington
I think the kid was just a late blossomer of sorts (I say of sorts because he still needs a lot of work, but the base is there). He had just gotten offers from Georgetown and Seton Hall, so he isn’t a complete waste of space. Perhaps the staff, as suggested by Ben, is looking to redshirt him and essentially making him a 2013 recruit if you want to go by graduation class. That spaces out bigs by a year, and gives him an additional year of growth at the D1 level. He is 6’9, 240, you can’t teach that. You can teach him the skills he needs to do well though.
Saw this last night before I went to bed
First thing to read upon getting in to work. Well, there goes my day. Thank you Testudo Times! Helping me get through my work day since 2008!
well, this certainly throws a wrench into all of our recruiting thoughts
and potential lineups for the future. I don’t think any of us thought that we’d land another big this year that wasn’t Charles Mitchell.
So, what happens if we also land Charles Mitchell? That is a lot of size that we’re bringing in this year. Shaq at 6’9, 275, Dodd at 6’9 240 and Mitchell at 6’7, 250ish. Turge is definitely going after more girth in the middle to clog up the lane. Of course…this is if Mitchell is still interested. I’m not sure that this would affect Mitchell or not. On one hand…it is another big to compete with. On another hand, no ones ever heard of Dodd before so does Mitchell just look him off as bench/practice depth?
I’m of the same thought as Ben that Dodd redshirts, but he could be the next JW for all we know. He did look extremely soft in the only video we have of him, but he put on 15 pounds of muscle in between seasons so he could be a lot better than we think (the Georgetown and Seton Hall offers make me think he is a lot better than that video suggests). One thing is for sure though, Turge wanted some size in this class and he sure as hell got it. I think we all wrote off the notion that we were going to get 2-3 bigs in this class once the season started and it was so apparent our guard play was weaker than our bigs. Glad we got some size though, was tired of our pogo sticks being pushed around all season (mainly Weijs and Len).
what year is he.
and i also heard tavon white from washington high was really good this year
by (adm)iregary on Feb 22, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
Senior This Year
Getting ready to star the playoffs next week. Not looking like he is going to get as far as he did the past two years.
by Brendan Plutschak on Feb 22, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
I got mad for a second
then I looked at the picture of him and now know he is going to be a stud..can’t teach that smile
I will take Dodd's size over Whittington
all day… every day.
by Jeffro78 on Feb 22, 2012 9:51 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'll take Whittington's skill over Dodd's any day...
Not saying Dodds a bad pick-up, just saying that I think we blew it with Whittington. I for one won’t sit here and say I’d rather have Dodd next year, than Whittington this year.
@nkeninitz
every big plays for the teerps this season. even weijs.
if one went down, then uh oh.
but this makes me wonder if there is a future departure already known that would make taking an unknown more of a necessity instead of the head-scratcher that it seems like now?
is somebody leaving?
Did Turgeon actually go to QA? That’s pretty cool to have Turgeon on the Eastern Shore. Wish they would have been at the QA/Easton game.
by Brendan Plutschak on Feb 22, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, he did
Spinelli got in early, Turgeon sealed the deal. Georgetown was very interested, Turge pulled the trigger to make sure UMd got him.
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If thats the worst we can do to G'town
We have big problems.
@nkeninitz
another serious question...
how the HeLL is turgeon so many places at once? texas, dematha, eastern shore, brewster academy, city…. mid-season no less and STiLL coaching the team. the man is remarkable.
He makes 2 mill a year.
With that kind of money where can’t he be? Which kinda makes you wonder what Gary’s problem was.
Fear the Turgle!
Answer: @ home - THAT
is the tough one.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Feb 22, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
In fairness, QACHS is an hour drive from campus
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Eastern Shore AAU
Brendan, there used to be an AAU program out of Easton called Eastern Shore AAU. I actually started one in 2007/2008 but the distance between high schools in the region was too great to be draw regular participation. I currently coach with in an Anne Arundel County AAU organization which carries 3 players from QAHS and KI High Schools. I have a 9th grade 6’7" big who recently wen against Dodd and schooled him pretty good…for a half.
That is my concern with Dodd, is his ability to play against kids his size. He has rarely had to do that. It is something that is going to need to be coached to him. This scholarship is 100% about potential in my opinion.
by Brendan Plutschak on Feb 22, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
My impression of Dodd after watching him play 4 times is that he is soft and plays down to the level of competition. I heard from another College assistant that saw him play last summer, he was pushed around by stronger smaller players from various AAU teams. I do hope he responds well to college coaching and competition.
Same impression I get. Dodd’s potential is going to depend on how well he responds to college coaching.
by Brendan Plutschak on Feb 22, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Well he wanted to be a terp
so thats a good start.
You just got Locksley'd.... get use to it
by Charlotte NC Terp on Feb 22, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Still trying to make sense of my thoughts
I was in a rant over this last night and not happy at all. This morning Im just really confused. How good is this kid? I dont really like redshirts at all because they consume a scholarship for 5 years. Turge said that he wanted to add 5 scholarship players for 2012…. well we now have 4 regardless of him redshirting or not. So we can add Mitchell or Cassell and call it a wrap (or twins 2012 :-) ). Im still not positive about the scholarship chart. Until I get all the facts infront of me I am going to hold off placing anymore judgement…..
You just got Locksley'd.... get use to it
by Charlotte NC Terp on Feb 22, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
got it posted just for you Charlotte
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Feb 22, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
how is this any different
From Spencer barks? If anything, he played against better competition. I think this is just a move to add depth…
by fballplyr92 on Feb 22, 2012 11:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions
According to Matt Bracken
Dodd did play AAU with Delmarva Lakers and Annapolis Advantage. Have to look to see if that turns up any more information on him.
@nkeninitz
Lotta flexibility here...can redshirt him or let him play year one...comparisons are allready being made to Ryan Randle
If everybody comes back we’ll have (Padge, Len, Shaq, and Pankey) where Dodd could redshirt and essentially take Padge’s place in the 2013-14 season or if Pankey or Len go early or tranfer than we’d have Dodd lacing it up next season! He"s kind of got a bit of Wilt Chamberlain build with those long arms and looks like Ernie Graham. Definitely glad we got some more girth and height. It will be interesting to see how this may play into the Mitchell recruitment. Schloraship wise if we added both Mitchell and Dodd we’d still have room for the twins if we don’t add anymore players or if we add one more guard in 2012 we’d need a scholarship to free up somehow unless we pull a UCONN.
Wilt Chamberlain? Really??
You even dared to go there….
I guess that makes Mychal Parker like the next Jordan or something, right?
@nkeninitz
Don't Forget
the 20,000 women Wilt claimed to have bed.
by LeftyCouldCoach on Feb 22, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Was thinking the same thing about the Randle comparison.
The smile did it for me.
Fear the Turgle!
Clarification on level of play
I would like to say hello from the Mid-Shore. I have been following various posts for some time now but have been hesitant to make comments as I haven’t been as immersed in high school/prep basketball as I was several years ago. A couple others that I didn’t see listed were Craig Winder-either Wicomico or JM Bennett (Texas), the infamous Carlton Dotson- North Dorchester (Baylor), several low D1 players UMES, Morgan, Delaware St., etc. There were also a couple Pocomoke kids that transferred to St. Johns- PH a couple years ago that were pretty solid. I know a few kids that played for the DE Sharpshooters not long ago but there is definitely decent talent out there. Kids just haven’t made the smart move and gone out of the area for AAU. There have been a few teams in recent memory that have played well at the state level Cambridge, North Dorchester, North Caroline, Pocomoke, and Easton- who played City a whole lot closer than they should have.
Craig Winder started at Mardela, finished at Wi-Hi on the 2002 state champs team
That was the year after Dunbar went “Four Corners” offense in the title game for the entire 3rd quarter when up by 3 or 5. Bunch of cowards…
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The Harrison's
Im sure they saw this committment and cant wait to play with all the elite talent Maryland is bringing in.
Not Wilt
Just read the new rivals interview with the Double-D. He compares his game to Kevin Durant, not Wilt. So that’s good. 30 ppg next year is my forecast.
If he sucks
call up Patsos
it’s simple
by bloodwatermission on Feb 22, 2012 2:19 PM EST reply actions
Oh dear, he needs some work.
Redshirt for sure. Seriously out of shape. Amazing his track numbers are what they are.
Fear the Turgle!
Ehhh
That wasn’t exactly what I was looking for in a new recruit. We will see though. Have to have faith in Turgeon..
could anyone see that video?
I was blinded by the neon orange kicks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7MCbis75wk
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Feb 22, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
This video sucks.... I stopped watching after 15 seconds.
These kids need to be on protein shakes and other suppliments. If you are a serious athlete these days you need to start lifting in 7th grade… Look at what separates the elite from the average… usually a “mans” body. This kid needs a lifting program.
Major project. He wont see the floor until 2015.
You just got Locksley'd.... get use to it
by Charlotte NC Terp on Feb 22, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
maybe hes secretly tight with the Harrison Twins?
by tmoneyttime1 on Feb 22, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Charlotte
For some reason, I can’t respond directly to you. But this guy seems like a typical shore kid. I live ten minutes from Easton, but have never heard of the kid. Would’ve thought he would’ve been in the paper a couple of times at least. Maybe I missed it. Saw the video and thought this mauve been Fromm his junior year. Then I saw the date. Smaller players took it to him inside. Didn’t look good. Project indeed.
by rquidas on Feb 22, 2012 4:57 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Im anything but thrilled. I was much more optimistic prior to the December 2011 video
In typical fashion, I wasnt thrilled at the idea of Cassell and Mitchell because I wanted the 4/5 star PF … I.e ROBERT CARTER or JAKAR SAMPSON… now I wish to God that we would have added Cassell and Mitchell and called this thing a wrap. I HATE REDSHIRTS in basketball. All they do is create recruiting challenges in my opinion. Now we cant go get a 2013 PF bc of this move.
You just got Locksley'd.... get use to it
by Charlotte NC Terp on Feb 22, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Lets hold off judgement
They might send him to prep school, which would be a great move in my opinion. It is only a verbal after all. There he against some better competition and we’ll have a better understanding of what he’s all about. If he succeeds, we know we have something, if not, we withdraw our offer.
yup
couldnt agree more. My buddy thinks he’ll prep for a year, therefore we would not be using a scholly on him next year. Then for 2013 we will review the situation and either re-offer or hold off. After all, a scholly is only good for 1 year.
After reading more on him
I think he goes to a prep school. He has a 2.4 GPA, which isn’t terrible but its not exactly going to prepare you for MD academics either. Definitely prep or redshirt though after seeing that video.
I’ll post more once I read Teleps write up of him as well.
I know it's only 1 video
But he doesn’t look to good. From what I saw he doesn’t hustle much and the floor and he can’t get off his feet. Hope he proves me wrong but as of now, I’m just puzzled.
I agree
he doesn’t seem to have a high motor at all. I know it was late in the game and who knows how many minutes he had played up to that point, but from that brief video he doesn’t seem very athletic, can’t hold his position in the post, and I was not impressed with his level of hustle on D, his ability to box out or his ability to change shots in the paint.
It’s just one video of late game play, and not representative of his stats that some site had listed. I’m sure that the coaching staff has seen much more of him than that video and has made a well informed decision.
It look's pretty official.....
This story in the Baltimore Sun talks about the process of him being recruited by Spinelli and Turge himself.
Someone said Josh Boone 2.0?
I went to school with Boone and after seeing Dodd play I can confidently say Boone was definitely a better prospect than Dodd. However, Dodd has less mechanical issues (i.e. shooting from anywhere beyond 3 feet). I don’t think he is on the same level athletically though, and Boone was also an intelligent kid. Like 1300 SAT intelligent. Anyways, that’s a poor comparison. Besides it’s comparing Carroll County, which isn’t booming with talent but has been a bit more consistent in big-talent to an aforementioned area that mostly produced low D1 talent.
Yea not even a comparison
Josh Boone and Marshall Strickland dominated carrol county and would have dominated most public schools in DC, Bmore, Frederick, PG county etc. When your PG goes to Indiana and your PF goes to Uconn you are set. I played with/against Josh in middle/high school and there were always schools watching.
You just got Locksley'd.... get use to it
by Charlotte NC Terp on Feb 22, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
Marshall Strickland was a beast in HS. Didn’t he get hurt at IU or something? Also, I saw Josh Boone play against my high school and he dunked on one of my friends. Pretty funny.
Can somebody get some training videos on this guy like Breunig's or Len's...hate to miss out on a kool-aid party if we could of had one
got a feeling that video is far from his best footage
Never under estimate what u don't know!!!!!
Because Jordan Williams didn’t really play AAU he was over looked, Got to the ACC an dominated every Big man in the conference. I’m from Baltimore and I can tell u eastern shore has some ballers. This kid will fit in nice with what we already have coming in. Shaq,Allen,Layman, then next year the twins all guys that want to be here and come from winning programs. Maryland top three in ACC next year!!!! Trust and Believe
Don't play with MY TERPS
by Jaybezel2 on Feb 22, 2012 8:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Don't understand
Why everyone seems to think jwill was some no name. Like Ben said he played aau. Luke I’ve said in other posts jwill was a solid 3 star recruit on all sites and was ranked a 89/90 on espn. Which puts him as a top 150/175 player. This guy is totally off the map. No where near the same comparison. Let’s also remember jwill was breaking backboards and dropping 40+ a game.
You just got Locksley'd.... get use to it
by Charlotte NC Terp on Feb 22, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
gaining ground in recruting.
so many great players from the DC/baltimore area went on to play at other schools ( durant, melo, gay lawson) to name a few, and Gary wouldn’t recruit them or not recruit them hard enough. it is nice to see Turgeon is taking advantage of the talent pool, and re-asserting Maryland as serious players on the trail.
Andre Collins...
Went from Loyola to Italy to play hoops. Good for him!
by terpapins on Feb 22, 2012 10:30 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
What's with the Eastern Shore bashing?
You’d think it’s the end of the universe the way you discuss it. Look at all these tiny hamlets in the backwaters of North Carolina or Georgia or Michigan that they find players who turn out to be great. What’s finding one in your backyard make him any worse? Last time I looked Queen Annes County is no different than Prince Georges or Baltimore, just a little further away from College Park. They DO play ball on the Eastern Shore believe it or not.
Like I said before
You bring him in for next year
If he’s a good investment, you grow him up
If he’s not, we call up Patsos
can’t really lose
by bloodwatermission on Feb 23, 2012 9:32 AM EST reply actions
He has verballed. He hasnt signed jack yet
Im thinking this screams prep school. The coach said he needs to get his GPA and SAT scores up. THANK GOD!!! He verbals now and goes and plays for a prep school. Gets stronger and gets his grades together. Plus gains some experience. Then he comes to MD assuming he has improved both on and off the court.
You just got Locksley'd.... get use to it
by Charlotte NC Terp on Feb 23, 2012 11:01 AM EST reply actions
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