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by Keith Pivonski on Feb 14, 2012 5:03 PM EST
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I know many of you probably already know and follow this site but for those of you who don't it is a well organized site for Terps Baskeball with tons of stats from this and past years. Also, every 3-5 days it updates its predictions for where teams end up in the post season which is pretty neat. After beating Clemson and losing to Puke we moved from a projected NIT 6 seed to a NIT 5 seed.
It will be interesting to see where they project us heading into the ACC tourney if we can somehow finish 9-7. Nobody has brought this up but if Maryland sweeps Virginia and they lose to UNC/FSU the final ACC standings would look like this..
Duke 13-3
UNC 13-3
Fl. St. 13-3
NC. St 10-6 (21-10)
UMD 9-7 (19-11)
Miami 9-7 (17-11)
UVA 8-8 (21-9)
Given how close that race is I think there is a GREAT chance the ACC gets 6 if not 7 teams in depending on how the tourney shakes out. If we sweep UVA in the reg season and beat them in the tourney it would be tough to put them in over us. Our lack of quality wins surely is holding us back from putting us on the bubble but even UVA, Miami, NC.St, ect. have bad losses which is something we don't have. I think 9-7 and two ACC T wins will have us biting our nails on selection Sunday. Three ACC T wins and I'd put us on the 50%+ chance side of the bubble sitting at 22-12 with no bad losses. I'd love to get one of those 13 seed play in games.
Thoughts?
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Also it would be hard to put Miami in over us if we split with them
in the regular season and make it equally far in the ACC Tourney. They just have that quality win at Duke over our head at the moment.
Disagree.
Disagree. If we sweep UVA we don’t another game besides @UNC. We hung around @Duke and I like our chances @UNC more than @Duke. We also have a history of winning games in chapel hill when there is absolutely no plausible reason why we should have. I believe we beat them when they were #1 in Chapel Hill Dino’s sophmore year and we weren’t even a top 40 team.
But that was also a Gary Williams coached team
Gary has a history of beating #1 teams. Not saying Turgeon can’t do it but that was Gary’s best trait
by nhlnflnba18414 on Feb 14, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, that was with gary, vasquez, gist, hayes, boom, and milbourne
completely different team, although knowing that we’ve done it before with a team not nearly as talented gives us a shot
by Turgeonator on Feb 14, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
9-7 is very optimistic
9-7 need 1 more win, maybe 2.
8-8 need 2 wins, maybe 3.
I still see a 7-9 ACC at best. We’re at 4, so one more and my pre-season goal will be exceeded. I like the way the guys have improved. rough patches, let’s hope they lessen a bit.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
Small ball and 2nd half play
I don’t think there is any evidence that this team can sweep UVA. While I would love to see the Terps in the dance this year, I have come to grips with the reality that this team is just too young and undermanned to get it done.
One comment about Turge’s coaching style. For some reason, he always decides to go small like sometime during the second half of games. I don’t think it has worked once this year. You’ll see Terrell, Pe, Nick, Moseley, and like Len out on the floor. I wish he would stop doing this. I know he has a lot of guys who need to play 1-3, but with Peshon out with the injury, I think he can keep Moseley at the 3 or 2 and keep rotating the bigs. One problem with doing this is that I feel that Ashton Pankey doesn’t seem to bring it in the second half the way he does in the first. Berend hasn’t gotten the opportunity to show what he can do, but we always get outrebounded during that stretch.
Turge should realize that this team needs the bigs out there to rebound missed shots and when he goes small, it almost always backfires. I hope he bucks the trend and our bigs come to play.
First let's see if the Terps
can take care of things at home. BC and Miami are definitely winnable though Miami is going to be much tougher with Kenny Kadji in the lineup. Folks on this board seem to undersell UVA but they’re a quality team that I think the Terps will struggle to beat at Comcast much less at JPJ. The aspect that makes UVA a possible win is that they tend to play close games and can go through stretches when they don’t score. On the other hand, MD is going to have to work hard to protect the ball (without their starting PG) and get decent looks against UVA’s ‘D’. But let’s go with the Terps holding serve at home. Clearly their best chance to steal a second road win is at GT. They seem to be inconsistent enough and close enough to the bottom quartile of the ACC to think there’s a reasonable shot at posting a win. I think that’s the best case scenario; that wins at either Carolina or Virginia are unlikely so best case I see is 8-8 and 18-12. Then 2 wins in the ACC might put the Terps on the bubble depending how some other (especially mid-major) conferences play out. Three would put them solidly on the bubble or possibly in the dance.
They laid an egg against Clemson tonight.
18 turnovers and ONE free throw attempt.
Before we lost Pe'Shon again
I had us finishing the season at 8-8 with 1 ACC tourney win. That was late last week before Duke. Now, without Pe’, I don’t know what is going to happen. That prediction seems pretty optimistic.
Add another loss to UVA
Clemson just beat them by 12. What is going on in the ACC this year? Completely up and down and no win is guaranteed. It is possible to win out. I"m not expecting it in the least but its definitely possible
UVA is overrated. I think things have been pretty clear so far except...
FSU beating unc by 33.
by nmcvicker03 on Feb 14, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
UVA is such a confusing team
Laid an egg against Clemson tonight and lost at home to TCU. Now, the TCU loss seemed bad until they knocked off UNLV tonight.
The UVA loss shows we should at least beat them at Comcast
Scott vs. Stogs…..great matchup
Both games this week could go either way
Boston College is playing much better and really should have won at VT Sunday Night. They have little depth inside and like to jack up a lot of threes. We should beat them if we can defend the perimeter and IF are big men show up to play.
VIrginia’s season seems to be headed in the wrong direction. They are actually one of the few teams that have less depth than the Terps. Joe Harris broke his hand against UNC and is not the same player with his soft cast. They clearly ran out of gas against Clemson who literally ran them off the court during the last seven minutes of the game.
However, due to ACC scheduling, UVA will have two extra days to prepare for us. Our team has a tough challenge. Play a 9:00pm game Thursday Night, get on the bus to Charlottesville Friday, and tip off a game on Saturday. Tough stretch, but two wins would be great to get back to .500 in league play.
One game and one week at a time. It should be interesting to see how the team responds after a disappointing 2nd half effort against Duke.
More thoughts about an NCAA bid
The Terps currently sit at 90 in the RPI and UVA’s loss tonight probably isn’t going to help them move up as much even if they do win at UVA on Sat. Looking at this RPI, I don’t think 8-8 gets the Terps into the Dance unless they win the ACC Tourney. 9-7 + 2 might get them in but probably will need 9-7 + 3. Given our expectations as fans before the season who’s going to be unhappy with 4-4 / 18-14 and a possible NIT bid to finish up this season. I have to think that even 5-3 / 8-8 / 1-1 / 19-14 puts MD in the NIT.
Home games are
BC, Miami & UVA. (No FSU) Road games are UVA, GT, UNC
4-2 would be great
3-3 is my actual prediction
@nkeninitz
Without Peshon this season is totally different now...flat out we will really miss the depth that Peshon's 30+ minutes gave us...
We really need one of theses three miracles to happen:
1. Stoglin to magically become more Vasquez like at the point in terms of leading the team getting everybody involved, slapping the floor, and taking over when he has too.
2. Mosley to get a crack at that role and find out that it actually may work pretty good with him up there starting the sets
3. One of the walk-ons to be given an opportunity like Jonathan Thomas hello!
The bottomline is we are a team who has lost it’s starting point guard and has with a competitive spirit already been struggling with second half offensive consistency, inside outside balance, and exhaustion problems. Hopefully Faust and Parker pick up Peshon’s minutes and one or more of the options up top miraculously begins to come together…if not we are a team that is just too depleted to realistically make anything more that NIT noise.
Getting invited to the NCAAT was a longshot
prior to Pe’s injury. To entertain that notion now is a pipedream. We’re an NIT team at best.
Jonathan Thomas aka Jeremy Lin
and lets go to Bentleys...
by johnnyrobs13 on Feb 15, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
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