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Life Without O'Brien: Updating Maryland's Scholarship Situation, Depth Chart

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Let's all take a deep breath. Today was a little crazy, and for those who would like to continue the craziness - was there tampering? - I'm sure you know the threads to do it in.

That said, Maryland football has to move forward, and for the more practical among you, there are probably some questions. The biggest: what will the offense look like now? I'll hit that one later, mostly because it's too complex to do in as short a post as this'll be. But two others I can get: just how many scholarships does Maryland have open anymore, and what does their depth chart look like?

Let's start off with the first. By my entirely unofficial count, the Terps currently have 80 scholarships taken up, a number that Patrick Stevens corroborates. That's before any spring football departures, academic casualties, and playing time transfers. That number varies every year, but Maryland can't afford to have many this season. They're already operating at five below the maximum, and there's a good chance that number could be even as many as ten by the start of the season. So depth might be an issue. Hope you like your redshirts crispy.

The long-term good news is that most of that is coming off the top. There are only 14 seniors in the program, which is a little small; that means not a lot of experience, but it means that down the road Maryland should be improving with their large sophomore and freshmen classes. They'll take another big class next year but after that things should start to level out and be okay.

If you want to see the full scholarship chart, check it out embedded below the break.

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The other question, rightly so, has to do with the depth chart. Maryland just lost two presumptive starters on the offensive end today, after losing another (R.J. Dill) several weeks ago. So things are a little shady, understandably. Anything at this point is guesswork at best, especially with a new coordinator who hasn't seen much film yet, and even more so given the large number of freshmen entering the program.

That said, if you don't follow football that much you might not know what Maryland's working with. If you do want names, here's a very general overview as to what the depth chart could look like come fall on the offensive end - the defense hasn't seen much attrition and with the oncoming transition to the 3-4 who knows where people will end up. Anyway, this is based off the depth chart from the end of last year and assumptions about where freshmen will likely come into the program.

QB: C.J. Brown / James Joseph (walk-on) / Caleb Rowe* / Perry Hills*
RB: Justus Pickett / Brandon Ross / Wes Brown* / Albert Reid* / Joe Riddle* / Kenneth Goins*
FB: Tyler Cierski / Kenneth Goins*
WR: Kevin Dorsey / Kerry Boykins / Nigel King / Levern Jacobs* / Malcolm Culmer*
WR: Stefon Diggs* / Devin Burns / Marcus Leak / Tyrek Cheeseboro / Amba Etta-Tawo*
TE: Matt Furstenburg / Devonte Campbell / Dave Stinebaugh / Ryan Schlothauer / P.J. Gallo*
LT: Nick Klemm / Ryan Doyle / Mike Madaras*
LG: De'Onte Arnett / Pete White / Andrew Zeller
C: Bennett Fulper / Sal Conaboy / Evan Mulrooney
RG: Josh Cary / Nate Clarke / Nick Brigham*
RT: Justin Gilbert / Jake Wheeler

A few comments: starting at the top, Brown and Joseph are the only QBs on the roster right now, and Rowe and Hills won't arrive until fall practice. That will make it almost certain that Brown is the starter, unless he gets injured or is much worse than expected.

The running back position is very fluid. People have said good things about Ross, who redshirted last year, and I could easily see any of the first four listed starting. I would guess that Brown and Pickett are favorites, but you rarely want to project a freshman as a starter unless they're a can't-miss guy, like Diggs. Could definitely happen, but I'm just being cautious.

I'd be surprised to see anyone other than Dorsey and Diggs manning the receiver slots. Makes too much sense. Boykins and Burns should be #3 and #4 unless Burns transfers; Leak and King should be next in line, but both could easily push to be higher on the list. Furstenburg and Campbell are locked in as the starters at tight ends.

The line is the real question mark in all this. I used the old depth chart as the base for this, but I'd expect a lot of movement. Klemm and Gilbert will almost certainly be the starters at the tackles unless Madaras really impresses in his first few games. I was surprised to see Arnett listed as a starter on the old depth chart, but he was, and over a healthy Pete White at that, so you may see the same come fall. Fulper, and perhaps Gilbert, will be the only sure bets of the group. It'll be interesting to watch this evolve.

Perhaps my biggest concern: when C.J. gets tomahawked by a predatory linebacker, who plays quarterback?

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said it before,randy wants his guys.when brown has a few bad games one of the freshman will start and we will all be talking about the imminent departure of brown.

by terpinva on Feb 13, 2012 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

Randy actually likes CJB

Remember last year during spring (or fall) practice he said that CJB was “pushing” DOB in the quarterback race. I thought it was blasphemy because I didn’t think that DOB should be questioned at all going into the season. Then last season happened, and DOB never seemed to be Randy’s guy, it seemed clear to me that he wanted CJB in there all along, but couldn’t because DOB was coming off the sensational rookie year. Anyway, CJB is one of Randy’s guys even though he wasn’t recruited by him. Barring a miracle (or injury) CJB will be the unquestioned starter going into spring and fall practices, and that’s the way it should be. CJB will have a longer leash this season than DOB had last season, believe it or not.

by churl77 on Feb 13, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't understand

If Edsall wanted his own guy in their at QB why didn’t he let O’Brien leave when he was thinking about it once the coaching change was made? Then this mess of a season and he’s gone anyway and he still wanted him to think it over? I’m lost on this.

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by Jergs on Feb 14, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you know if Danny ever approached Edsall and asked to leave?

It was only rumored last year that DOB was considering leaving, no one knows if he approached Edsall and asked for a transfer and was told no. Don’t try to add more heat to the Edsall screwed DOB debate.

by djcarv2005 on Feb 14, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope

True, it was a rumor. If it was true then it makes what’s happened make little sense. But, no I have no link or other hard info that suggests that DOB in fact did ask for his release.

My problems with Edsall stem more from his own lack of accountability. O’Brien wasn’t fully committed, Garcia was “homesick”. Just wish a kid well and move on

I don’t see how loyalty and committment is a one way street. I question if Edsall was ever truly committed to him in the first place. Otherwise he would not have been so quick to give him the hook.

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by Jergs on Feb 14, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

No ones going to argue you on that one

Man needs a PR specialist. I doubt he truely has those ill-felt feelings towards all hte players that have transferred, but he sure as hell is the worst person to have doing a press release.

by djcarv2005 on Feb 14, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe it's just me.

However, I thought that Danny O’ Brien wasn’t that good last year enough to warrant him being put on a pedestal or this year. Yeah, he made plays last year, but he wasn’t a very prolific passer. He doesn’t have a strong arm…he doesn’t throw lasers. Many of his throws were crappy spirals. Honestly, I’d liken him to Riley Skinner where you just can’t get a read on him, but he has some talent.

If you read that paragraph and think I’m delusional for not thinking he’s a good quarterback, fair enough, but honestly I didn’t think his talent matched up to his honors. Yeah, he was ACC QB of the year, but watching him play, I just knew he couldn’t keep that up. He sure was scrappy though….

by db0255 on Feb 15, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

How ugly does that depth chart look

If we hadn’t gotten Brown and Diggs…

by T Free on Feb 13, 2012 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Run to the left, run to the right, incomplete pass to ... punt ...

Looks like we will be seeing alot of 7 to 8 men fronts, daring us to pass with CJ.

by JUICEDTERP on Feb 13, 2012 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Soundsss pretty accurate

Does anybody know if Locksley likes bubble screens like our previous coordinators have? I wouldn’t mind seeing them to get the ball in Diggs’ hands

by T Free on Feb 13, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

i went to same high school as ross

he was really fast compared to everyone else on the field and a good runner. i know it was against schools from delaware, but i dont think hes too bad

by terpfan1995 on Feb 13, 2012 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

Dan Hellie

So, can someone explain Dan Hellie’s comments on channel 4 about Edsall “blocking” DOB’s request to transfer to Vandy? How does that work?
Long time reader….first post. Nice blog Ben.

by JO's #2 on Feb 13, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

He is committed to Maryland...

He is going to school on a Maryland scholarship. Maryland could very well not even release him, and he’d have to just transfer and sit out a year elsewhere.

At least I think that’s about the gist of it.

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by CharlesDriesell on Feb 13, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard that

there was a quarterback interested coming here? Following Locks? Hes a dual threat guy, certainly couldnt hurt to add some experience at the QB position. I think his name is Ricardo Young? Former VT guy.

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by dterpfan on Feb 13, 2012 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

Seems like a dick move on Edsall’s part…at least that is how it was portrayed on his broadcast.

by JO's #2 on Feb 13, 2012 9:59 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Every coach would block the transfer

But yes, calling out DOB was a dick move. Edsall needs a PR guy, but his move to block a transfer to Vandy is justified, every coach would do it.

by djcarv2005 on Feb 14, 2012 8:09 AM EST up reply actions  

WR looks to be our only position of strength

Too bad WR’s require a QB who can throw and a line that can block.

by Sephtical on Feb 13, 2012 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

I was at the FSU game....

They were saying prior to it…if CJ tried to run they were going to “take him out”….after the hit, everyone was talking about how it was a legal hit, just like the hit two years at Byrd

by umcp96 on Feb 13, 2012 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

I don't recall anyone talking about it being a legal hit.

Crown of the helmet to the front of the facemask on a sliding QB is as dirty as it gets.

But the point is the same, yes. CJ is gonna get laid out several times this year.

by Ben Broman on Feb 13, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

QB depth

Do we still have that guy Troy Jones? He’s isted on the roster on umterps, though of course that is already very out of date. Also, I believe we’re getting a walk-on from Atholton (but I have no idea how good he is). Anyway, it’s not much, but it’s something I guess..

by calebsc on Feb 13, 2012 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

walk on

There was a Baltimore Sun article that said that walk on QB is moving to TE.

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McMahon, a 6-foot-4, 210-pound senior, was first-team All-Howard County at quarterback after throwing for 1,289 yards and 13 touchdowns, while rushing for 772 yards and eight scores. The future Terp completed more than 60 percent of his passes for the Howard County-champion Raiders, but he got very little interest as a signal-caller from college recruiters. The Terps coaching staff, however, was intrigued by McMahon’s potential at tight end after he worked out at the position in camp.
"Athletically, I think he’s a Division I athlete," Schmitt said. "And I told him if he played tight end for us, I really think that he would be at least a 1-AA type of kid, or a Division I type of athlete. That wasn’t what was best for us. But he runs a 4.6, he power-cleans 300 pounds, bench presses 300 pounds. He’s only going to get bigger and stronger. I really think he’s got a great upside as an athlete. It was the best move for him."

by RSVRTERP on Feb 13, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Devin Burns

Maybe Devin Burns could be an emergency QB like Anquan Boldin was for the Ravens.

by RSVRTERP on Feb 13, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

He's a beast on NCAA Football 12

lol

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by grizzy on Feb 13, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

id rather have him than burn redshirts on 18 yr freshmen.

by cSq on Feb 14, 2012 8:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Any Ju Co linemen

who can come in and provide some depth? Can Maryland run a 3/4 D and expect to be good at it?

by Corvette Terp on Feb 13, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

I think 2013 at the earliest

if they played for New Mexico in the fall of 2011.

by RSVRTERP on Feb 14, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

you're right

Pete said it in the other thread, they were all on the 2011 New Mexico roster, so they have to sit out a year. However, if none of them have redshirted yet in college, the transfer year can be used as a redshirt year so they won’t lose a year.

by djcarv2005 on Feb 14, 2012 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

New Mexico was not the first stop

for some of them. According to that Washington Post article, Vance and Vernard Roberts began at WVU, Ricardo Young began at VT, and Meiko Locksley began at Youngstown State. So they’ve had to sit out at least a year already. Young already sat out two (redshirted in 2010 at VT, then sat out 2011 at UNM).

I think if they play 2012 at the JuCo level, then they can transfer up for 2013 without any additional time lost (like Cam Newton).

by RSVRTERP on Feb 14, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

That rules out redshirting then

but I still think that Young has 3 years of eligibility. I think I may of had it wrong, your transfer sitting out year doesn’t count as a year played, so Young still technically has 3 years he can play.

by djcarv2005 on Feb 14, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I think 2 at Maryland.

Anyone feel free to correct me, but I believe in normal circumstances (without medical redshirts, Mormon missions, switching sports like Greg Paulus, etc), you have 5 total years to complete 4 years of eligibility. For Ricardo Young, that translates to:

  1. 2010 – Redshirt at VT
  2. 2011 – sit out at UNM
  3. 2012 – play at juco (or sit out at UMD)
  4. 2013 – hypothetical year 1 at UMD (Rowe/Hills also enter the picture if they haven’t already)
  5. 2014 – hypothetical year 2 at UMD

If that’s true, I’d rather him transfer ASAP and at least have 2012 to learn the system and be a scout team QB, but he may prefer to actually play for the first time in a few years. Also, staying at the juco level would protect him if he’s worried about Edsall (and Locksley) returning for 2013 because once he goes back up to the FBS, no way he’s transferring again.

Sorry, don’t mean to keep playing devil’s advocate.

by RSVRTERP on Feb 14, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Tyrek Cheesboro?

Is he healthy? I didn’t see him listed on the WR depth chart listed above.

by GPT on Feb 14, 2012 8:25 AM EST reply actions  

Couple of notes here: Is Grommer on defense or offense as he was a very good lineman coming out of SC last year and played both ways in NC-SC all star game? Burns was an excellent option type QB for a very good GA high school team and was initially a QB here though his long term future is as a WR. We really do not need to lose any other players going into next fall. As for Brown he just needs to work with his timing with the receivers he has a very good arm. Biggest concern is a cheap shot like FSU LB dealt last year. Most of O’Brien’s problems on the field last year were brought on by O’Brien not the staff or the scheme. He was not throwing the ball very well regardless of whether we were in the shot gun or he was dropping back to pass; way too many very high or very short passes.

by ngaumfan on Feb 14, 2012 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

It is also good to point out

That his WRs last year had a serious dropping problem. He probably had lost all confidence in his receivers actually catching the ball, which didn’t help the problem in the first place.

by djcarv2005 on Feb 14, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree with the receiver drop point but they also did not help Brown at times in this capacity. I remember in particular a drop on a long throw by Brown by Ronnie Tyler, but Brown’s running and speed definitely create concerns for defenses.

by ngaumfan on Feb 14, 2012 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

2 other qb options

Shawn Petty from elenor rooseevelt stared at qb in hs

and Devin burns was the backup behind jammarr robinson when dob was a freshmen

by fear da turtle 2002 on Feb 14, 2012 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

I don't care who's your QB

if you slide into a MLB, you and your head will be filing papers.

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by ricobert1 on Feb 16, 2012 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

Terps have more to worry about then just an FSU MLB

Your starting QB is just one of the MANY problems you have. And yes,,,it was legal. Your guy slid INTO our guy. Simple fact.

by tisc63128 on Feb 20, 2012 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

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