Three More, Including Danny O'Brien, Will Transfer
We had some hope that DOB would stay after Stefon Diggs committed to Maryland, but this has been a long time coming. Also leaving are expected starting left tackle Max Garcia and linebacker Mario Rowson. We'll have a full story with the updated transfer count shortly.
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ill repost what i said on the fanpost, and i KNOW broman agrees with me
CJ+Wes+Diggs+Reid+Pickett is already a potentially awesome, unpredictable, fun offense
Don't forget Furstenburg, Cierski and Dorsey
Those guys can be weapons too
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oh shit i thought Furst down graduated
this could be sweet
Goings from Gilman will be better than Cierski if he isnt RS'd
by Maryland1206 on Feb 13, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree
Cierski is one of the best FB prospects I’ve seen in a while. It depends how much they rely on the spread, but Cierski is a big-time player.
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This doesn't hurt as much as it sounds
I am a bit worried about the line, but it is hard to tell which Danny is the real Danny — I think he is concerned about losing PT to CJ, that is it. CJ proved he is ENORMOUSLY talented… If he can work on his mechanics, and get his throws a BIT more accurate — I think he will be UNSTOPABLE…. I mean seriously
Wes Brown and CJ — you gotta RESPECT both of those… and Stefon on the edge… WOW
He did complete 50% and throw more TD's then INT -- A solid 4 star
I miss DOB, wanted to see him beat CJ this spring, but I am on the CJ Bandwagon — Frankly I think it will make for more exciting ball
Good riddance
You lost your job, now win it back or quit. He quit. Good riddance.
by GCTerp on Feb 13, 2012 12:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
real classy
He lost his job because the guy calling the shots is an absolute moron who did not consider player strengths when making decisions. That guy is gone, but Edsall may have burned the MD bridge throughout the season. Danny didnt play well last year consistently, but he had flashes, and gave us a threat of completing a pass longer than 7 yards down field. He was one of the better quarterbacks maryland has had in over a decade, and Edsall lost him. He bears all the blame, in my mind. I just hope one of the freshman can somehow start from day 1, because CJ at QB will not lead a team to a winning record.
It’s tough love, but no matter how you shake it, Danny is not a Terp anymore (or won’t be once this is official).
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by John Stephens on Feb 13, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
I immediately thought that my comment was too harsh,
but it was my initial reaction to what I thought would be a Randy Edsall shit slinging fest – so it came out wrong. But as you’ll see, I wished him the best of luck.
I wish him luck also ...
…but I agree with you. If DOB doesn’t want to be here anymore, then I’m not going to miss him when he’s gone. Felt the same way about Don Brown. Safe travels — hope you don’t need a reference anytime soon. DOB was a good freshman and a bad sophomore. Times were tough last year, but the coach and team recognized that and took drastic positive steps to change course. DOB doesn’t want to see this transition through and finish what he started here, so I’m with you — good riddance. I hope he finds a good home and plays well, and I also hope that wherever he goes, if he ever lines up against the Terps again they put him on his back a few times. He quit on us, so see ya later. End of story.
I'm not really in the "he quit" camp
Hating on the guy for being disloyal, selfish, or weak seems a little silly to me. The coaching staff would have benched O’Brien in a second if it felt like another QB gave them the best chance to win games (in fact, they did just that last year). The Terps will do what is best for the Terps. DOB needs to do what is best for DOB.
The guy has NFL aspirations. If he rode the bench for the next 2 years, that would really hurt his chances.
I find it hard to criticize the guy for making a decision that is in his best interest. Gotta look after #1—at the end of the day, no one else is going to do it for him.
Wow that's ridiculous
Don’t call him a quitter when you don’t know half of what actually went on.
@nkeninitz
Didn't want to lose DOB, I sincerely wish him well.
I’m sure there will be vocal Edsall haters today, but I wonder if Locksley sat him down and they figured out together that he wasn’t the best fit for the offense he plans to install. Best of luck DOB, I’ll still be following your career…hopefully I’ll see you on Sundays someday.
It's possible
but the haters will keep the blame on edsall: after all danny was ROY in 2010, then edsall came on board put him into an offense that he was illsuited for and now he’s gone. But in sports it’s the HC who gets the credit when things go well and the blame when things go bad wither they diserve it or not.
by SteelTerp42 on Feb 13, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
YEP!!! He can't pass the buck.......
like the rest of us in the free world can. A Head Coach in any sport at any level is always under the microscope.
by TwerpsNoMore on Feb 13, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I think this was a done deal from the moment he got injured last year.
You could tell by looking at his face that he was done and probably lost faith in the coaching staff. So depressing to think of the turnaround after his freshman year. Diggs’ committment is the only thing keeping some positivity in the program…
I don't mind this at all... but wish him well
with the weapons we have on offense it wont be hard to do 1 of 2 things:
1. be efficient with an average QB
2. convince a stud QB to do something very special here
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by NattyBoAndOldBay on Feb 13, 2012 12:26 PM EST reply actions
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by duck on Feb 13, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just looked at this guy game log stats...
I don’t know what you guys see in him. DOB had a much better freshman season. There was the Clemson game, but after watching the Orange Bowl that performance is nothing special to me. I’m telling you guys we are really flawed at the QB position this year. Who are the other options???
Always hate to see talent go
but in the realm of things, DOB didn’t exactly flourish under Edsall for whatever reason. I think Danny will do well somewhere, but at MD I’m not so sure he would’ve turned it around. I’m sure DOB & Locks spoke about the new offense Locks would integrate. Obviously Danny didn’t feel comfortable with it.
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Diggs
Doesn’t a guy like Diggs need a big-time arm to get him the ball deep? Does DOB leaving reduce Diggs’ potential? I was hoping the OC could have appealed to DOB to stay, especially now that a top receiver has joined the program.
He's more of a give him the ball and let him work guy that throw it deep and watch I think
CJ is better than you’re thinking though
by Maryland1206 on Feb 13, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'm guessing that with the talent at his disposal
Mike Locksley is going to use Diggs a lot like Arrelious Benn was used in Illinois. Though Benn is much bigger and more physical, Diggs can get the ball in space and make people miss. And CJ Brown is probably better than Juice Williams was at throwing the ball.
In all honesty, this is probably the offense Locksley wanted to use from the beginning which may have influenced DOB to transfer more than anyone else.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly
he is closest in body type and running style to Mendenhall than anyone else. I’m pretty sure Locksley prob showed Brown tape of what he did with Mendenhall when he was recruiting Brown.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
yet again, as a co-captain of the CJ bandwagon with broman
may I remind you that CJ is the one that almost led upsets of undefeated clemson and GT, while danny was, well, just bad the whole season
This doesn't sting as much as it could
Amazing to think how much more acceptable this seems after the Diggs announcement. It stinks, sure, but it feels like a minor speed bump after Friday’s hoopla.
Now, imagine if Diggs had gone on CSN and announced for Florida, then DOB said he was transferring. The fanbase would be beyond consolable.
I am perfectly fine with this!!
If you are not game enough to come back in the Spring and win your job back, then I don’t think you’re game enough to take this team where it needs to be. DOB is extremely talented, however, he could’ve seen the writing on the wall with Caleb Rwoe coming in as well.
There will be a lot of negativity about this
But there really shouldn’t be. As many have pointed out before, including myself multiple times, DOB was buoyed by Torrey Smith. He looked terribile last year regardless of offensive scheme. He missed Megget on screen passes unpressured a bunch of times. I wish Danny well, he seems like a good dude and a good Terp, but he wasn’t the QB that the ACC ROY award led people to believe. He’s leaving just as much if not more because he’s not guaranteed the starting job rather than his perceived issues with Edsall.
The one that hurts obviously is Garcia. Losing both stating tackles (Dill) before their eligibility was up hurts. We do have some talent along the line that could fill in, but it’s unproven talent such as Nate Clark, Madaras, Klemm, and possibly even Arnett if he can slide outside. But all of those were highly regarded recruits coming out of high school, even though Arnett was recruited at DE.
As for Rowson, he’d be better as a SS at a smaller school most likely. Not a huge deal.
by FeartheTurtle2002 on Feb 13, 2012 12:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I agree in some respects
that DOB has been overrated since his freshman year. Here’s the thing about a lot of sports fans; they see improvement as a linear path. Like, “Danny is only a freshman so by the time he is a junior/senior he will be 4 times better!” Except that isn’t the way things work in sports.
Sometimes improvements come in spurts. One day a guy just gets it. Sometimes it happens slowly. Sometimes guys are what they are. And sometimes regressions happen. It clearly happened with Danny O’Brien. There is some blame to be placed on Crowton’s offense but as was previously stated, he had time and would STILL miss open receivers. He would still throw into coverage. He just was not good in any sense of the word.
Getting back to his freshman year, he had a lot more talent to throw to. Torrey Smith bailed him out a lot. He lost a lot of talent and the next year he couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. I think the fact is that a lot of Terp fans got so wrapped up the hype of “How good he can be” that they forgot to think about “how good he is RIGHT NOW.” They were so ready for Danny O’Brien to be the “Redshirt Junior/Senior Heisman Candidate” that they ignored that he wasn’t playing that way in the least.
All in all he was a good guy and represented the University well. I am sad to see him go but I acknowledge that the amount of hype placed on him was probably overblown.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Heard through the grapevine...
that DOB was told by five SEC schools that he could start for them next year. Love to know who got in his ear
Kentucky, Ole Miss, Miss. st, UF or Auburn
I think there would be enother big time program if this is true
by Maryland1206 on Feb 13, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Maryland can limit the schools he is released to
Hard to believe they’ll let him go to Vandy and let Franklin get him.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Why?
It’s not like Maryland and Vandy are rivals. Likely will only limit in-conference schools (but with the graduation rule, he won’t be going there anyway).
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True but they aren't dumb
They have to know Franklin has been in his ear for a while now. I
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
True, but that doesn't mean it's an issue
Personally, I’d like to see him go to Vandy. Always been a huge fan of Franklin, and would love to see them have success together again
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There's been some talk that JF's been trashing us a bit w/ MD kids
If that’s true, no way in hell are we doing him any favors.
will UMD pull a Martelli?
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by bball purist on Feb 13, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
SJU wouldn't let that dude go ANYWHERE
UMd will probably object to him going to Vandy, and that’s it.
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yep
the consensus now is…
No Vandy, No ACC – If Edsall said No Vandy, it’s understood no ACC from the extra year wait anyway – plus
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by bball purist on Feb 13, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
as has been mentioned multiple times by Ben
Rodgers little brother allegedly has the starting job on lockdown
There's literally no way
I don’t think he’d even start for Vandy unless Franklin felt bad for him if he came there. Like I said, DOB is a good kid, but he’s not a great QB. He will get eaten alive in the SEC, it’s not even a question. He was a pretty good QB with an NFL Wide Receiver going against mostly mediocre defenses in the ACC. Then he lost his talent and dropped to below average. I don’t care what team in the SEC you put him on, I seriously doubt he would be a successful starter if he started at all. And I hate talking bad about a guy that seems to be a really good guy and cared about Maryland, but it’s just what I see. I wish him the best and I hope he goes and develops into a great QB, I just don’t see it.
by FeartheTurtle2002 on Feb 13, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
If you ain't with us, you're against us
Adios DOB, Lets go CJ!
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by John Stephens on Feb 13, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I've got a bad feeling about this...
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Whats the O-line going to look like now?
Nobody is mentioning Garcia here…now lost the starting LT and RT from last year
We'll have a post on the depth chart later today
But my guess is Gilbert-Cary-Fulper-White-Madaras, or some combination of those five names
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First was an ACL- was the 2nd surgery the same?
If he’s coming off 2 ACL repairs in what, 18 months, I dont think you can count on him being healthy
It's the same knee
I am certainly not counting on 12 games from him
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Don't forget Nate Clark
He was a 4-star lineman coming out of HS.
by FeartheTurtle2002 on Feb 13, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
But people think the Terps will 8 games next year?
Uh..huh. Good lord how did this team go from getting better to complete disaster so fast?
About Randy Edsall
I think what people fail to realize is that Randy came into a situation where there wasn’t much discipline (see loss of scholarships due to academics) and is trying to instil a formula that will not be for the faint of heart. With regard to the transfers, alot of these kids are Ralph’s kids. It is impossible to think that the transition to Edsall was going to be a smooth one. There will always be turnover on CFB teams and with a new coach this was to be expected.
As far as people worried about Diggs and what he will think, I agree that it is a bit troublesome, however, we just got a huge infusion of offensive talent. Give the offense a chance to gel this year and see what we have on the field.
I think that once we see a full year of Randy Edsall’s system, this will all start to mesh out into something that we can all be proud of. And to quote my man “John Stephens” If you aint with us, you’re against us!
GO TERPS!!!
I like RE
I was disappointed with last seasons results, but more disappointed w/ Ralphs 2-10 season….
Randy is just as responsible for the successes we have had recently as he is for some of the failures. However, the Fridge is also responsible for some of the failures we have had… Randy has a few more seasons from me before I jump off the bandwagon. I personally believe that making these kids grown men is more important than winning… Frankly, because I think grown men WILL win. It is also why I like turge (a ’la Stogs last game).
This
Good way of putting it both of you.
by FeartheTurtle2002 on Feb 13, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno
I always had issues w/ Fridge being a BIT too close to the players — it was a positive and a negative… Heck, those scooters alone — as I mentioned below, Fridge went 2-10 with at least 12 NFL players on his roster… so I will cut RE A break for a few years.
I think there is a difference between acknowledging the situation Edsall inherited and using it as an excuse
Fridge may have been a bit lax in the discipline area—although I’m not 100% sure this is the case. But, let’s assume that’s right for the sake of this discussion.
It is reasonable to acknowledge the fact that Fridge was lax, and that Edsall’s strict discipline was a big change. Under these circumstances, it was reasonable to expect that there would be defections by those unhappy with the swift and drastic change.
Where some people (myself included) take issue, is using this as an excuse for poor performance.
First, good leaders don’t come into a situation and alienate their subordinates. A more gradual change might be appropriate. It wasn’t just “bad eggs” that decided to leave—a lot of people seem to dislike playing under the new regime.
Second, even if you are okay with the sudden and drastic change, you have to be prepared to deal with the consequences. Those consequences are mass defections, suspensions, etc. These have a negative impact on talent in the program. Edsall did a crappy job of performing—he didn’t counterbalance the consequences of his actions—and this led to a bad year on the field.
Even if you think the culture-switch is good in the long-run (I do, to some degree—although GSP is no way to continue), Edsall is the one that made the choice to do a quick and drastic 180, as opposed to the gradual change. He, therefore, reaps the consequences of that decision.
I think some of us don’t like the “Fridge had no discipline” line as an excuse for Edsall’s poor performance. It is reasonable to consider the circumstances he walked into—but that doesn’t mean he didn’t make choices after he walked into those circumstances.
by bshock on Feb 13, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree with most of your points
However, I am in no way trying to displace RE from the blame. At the end of the day 2-10 is 2-10 and those results are poor. What I am saying is that I believer that after the season that we had before RE, this team’s outlook may have been too optimistic. I don’t think that most people were expecting that team to win only 2 games, however, I also don’t think that most people understood that this transition to RE would involve so many casualties as well.
by KonartistNupe on Feb 13, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
That's fair
I didn’t mean to sound argumentative (I have a tendency to do that, haha). More just wanted to point out where some of us are coming from. It is fair to recognize that Edsall had a tougher job than some of us originally expected, while also recognizing that a tough job doesn’t excuse bad choices, and ultimately doesn’t excuse bad results.
Too many people seem to embrace one viewpoint without considering the other, when in reality I think both need to be considered.
I’m cautiously optimistic about our football program now. I don’t think Edsall is a great coach, but I’m seeing signs that he may not destroy our program, as I’d previously feared.
Edsall isn't a great coach yet....
He did great things for UCONN, and has potential to become a great coach….
but most all of us agree
74-70 is not acceptable here if it were 11 years. Mark that down as 1 agreeable goal – but 11 wouldn’t prolly happen then either.
That avg would be hard to exceed over a shorter 6 year period when a 2-10 record just started off the the six. Even averaging 7 or 8 wins a season (with .500 bowl victories for 4 years of the 6) for 5 more years will result in a 39-37 record to 44-32. Just shows what a 2-10 record can do to a shorter term avg.
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by bball purist on Feb 13, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
I think some people are forgetting the fact
that UCONN was not a football school until RE got there. I didn’t hear a thing about UCONN football before Edsall. I will reserve my judgement until he can get his type of players here.
by KonartistNupe on Feb 13, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
1st: NOOOOOOO
2nd: well, this does open up playing time/free up competitors that can be sold to new recruits.
In some respects
I agree that DOB has been overrated since his freshman year. Here’s the thing about a lot of sports fans; they see improvement as a linear path. Like, "Danny is only a freshman so by the time he is a junior/senior he will be 4 times better!" Except that isn’t the way things work in sports.
Sometimes improvements come in spurts. One day a guy just gets it. Sometimes it happens slowly. Sometimes guys are what they are. And sometimes regressions happen. It clearly happened with Danny O’Brien. There is some blame to be placed on Crowton’s offense but as was previously stated, he had time and would STILL miss open receivers. He would still throw into coverage. He just was not good in any sense of the word.
Getting back to his freshman year, he had a lot more talent to throw to. Torrey Smith bailed him out a lot. He lost a lot of talent and the next year he couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. I think the fact is that a lot of Terp fans got so wrapped up the hype of "How good he can be" that they forgot to think about "how good he is RIGHT NOW." They were so ready for Danny O’Brien to be the "Redshirt Junior/Senior Heisman Candidate" that they ignored that he wasn’t playing that way in the least.
All in all he was a good guy and represented the University well. I am sad to see him go but I acknowledge that the amount of hype placed on him was probably overblown.
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I hope you meant Reid
Wes Brown is a power runner, Reid is a speed back.
Brown isnt slow. he just doesnt have that 'last gear'
by Maryland1206 on Feb 13, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
right but...
was more referring to if he wanted all mobility that Reid was the better option. It is moot because he said below he was implying speed and power.
But you missed the point
The defense has to account for the power back, the mobile qb, and the speedy WR…. That is a handful that helps SOME with OL issues — all I was saying.
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by bball purist on Feb 13, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Bottom Line:
Danny has to go where he feels he has the best chance of success
The style of Crowton and Locks, might not be the best to feature his talent.
@djcarv
I meant brown, with him in the backfield w/ CJ you have both the threat of a power runner and speed… If CJ’s accuracy increases a bit, and a few receivers show up (ahem diggs), it can REALLY create a match-up problem even if our OL is a bit weak…
With that being said, didnt Ralph go 2-10 with at least 12 NFL players on his roster?
Fridge's team was at least a competitive 2-10.
We were in most of those games. This past year’s 2-10 saw our players frequently quitting on the field, and we lost 7 straight games by double digits. The only thing comparable about the two seasons is the final record.
I mean
like he said, Fridge’s 2-10 team had 12 NFL players on his roster, so of course they will be a little more competitive.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Fridge's team had some fight, Edsall's had none.
I’m not turning this into an Edsall bashing session, because I think that he could be laying some good groundwork here. But last year’s team was one of the saddest things I’ve ever seen on a football field. Teams with worse talent levels have come out and at least fought for tough losses.
What games were YOU watching?
Outside of Clemson, Ga Tech and NC State losses, we got flattened. The team straight gave up in many games.
I’ll agree to disagree with you on the speed and power at the same time, thats just different philosiphies. I don’t think the line will end up that bad, with the line stated a few comments up the right side appears to be pretty strong with White and Madaras (true freshman though).
I would also argue
that the team gave up in the second halves against Clemson and NC State.
Well, I was in the stadium for all of the home games.
Plus the one away game I was able to travel to. But the rest I did have to watch on TV.
So, those ones.
Agreed on some levels
but as Parcells says you are what you’re record says you are. 2-10 is 2-10.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
No argument
This started from the discussion that Ralph’s 2-10 was worse than RE’s given the obvious talent (hindsight) he had. Also, how somehow almost beating 3 top 15 teams in 4 games amounts to not-fun bad football to watch….
Just frustrating
That perspective really does not apply unless you view everything in black and white.
The real world is a bit more complicated – not all 2-10 seasons are created equal.
I guess but when it gets down to it
you are really arguing whether or not you’d prefer to eat cat shit or dog shit. Either way, 2-10 is a shit season. Seems like a case of splitting hairs.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
It depends whether you're interested in predictive ability.
If a team goes 2-10 but loses all games by ~7 points, you can expect a reasonable probability that, without significant attrition, the team could gain several more wins in the following season.
If a team goes 2-10 but loses by an average of ~25 points, it’s probably more indicative of deeper problems within the program.
(And these were not our actual point differentials – just sample numbers)
Fair
but also with the amount of turnover in college football it is extremely hard to predict future results from past results. I will agree this 2-10 team was probably worse than Fridge’s 2-10 team but the recruiting class coming in now was much better than Fridge’s EVER were.
So depends on how the new talent meshes into the offense. Either way it’s tough to predict anything in college football, other than that the SEC is going to be ridiculous as always.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
I believe he meant in terms of targetting talent
This class is arguably better in terms of the talent targetted because it addressed specific needs while also recruiting locally, something Fridge could not do. This class is only ranked 35th, but the ramifications of the local recruiting make it much, much more valuable than that.
I agree
I think these recruiting performances are better in many aspects — but from a sheer rating perspective… Fridge had some mad talent coming in from 2003-2005 — and still managed to go 2-10… His 06-09 recruiting classes not nearly as good… I dunno silly argument but it is what it is.
I don't even know what you two were arguing
I was just clarifying what he was saying with regards to the recruiting class. Keep up the entertainment though :)
The sad part about that 2005 class
is that most of them were on that 2009 team that was 2-10
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
But either way
like djcarv said, this class addressed every area of need and did so while tapping into LOCAL pipelines that have been in existence even while Fridge was around. The biggest criticism of Fridge’s recruiting was that he never locked down Maryland and let the best players go to different schools. The very first year of Edsall/Locksley has gone a long way to do both those things. And they nailed the top recruit in the state as well as the DC Gatorade Player of the year.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
This sums it up
Ralph 2-10: Torrey, Darrius, La’ Quan… Turner (Seasoned player, decent previous year)
RE 2-10: Boykins – Dorsey — DOB (A bit better than Turner if you use the Freshman year as the measuring stick)
Nuff said
You may need to recount your numbers as well.
Because DHB was not on the 2009 2-10 team.
Oh snap maybe I was looking at wrong roster?
Torrey
DaRel
Barnes
Navarre
Fokou
BAltz
Williams
Campbell
Williams
Wujciak
Does that look right?
Oh its still 12
I think gronkowski was on 2009 team?
Of course, what's the standard here?
If we’re being hyper-technical, Navarre was an NFL player – even though he was only on a 53 man roster for 9 days and never played.
Doesn't change the fact that he was on an NFL roster
I am pretty sure that if you are recruiting someone, and you are told he would be on an NFL Roster for a day — you would take him.
His team had TWELVE NFL PLAYERS
Regardless, I seem to recall us being very competitive against WVU, GT, Clemson (all ranked), NC State (we win if we had a decent season — all mental), Wake Forest (4th Qtr meltdown — depth). Devastated by injuries we lost handily to FSU, BC, Virginia, and ND.
Aside from the Temple lost — nothing really shocked me, although I don’t remember if we had any injuries vs temple.
We were a few plays away from being 5-1 and a top ten team last year… Vs WVU #18 (DOB interception), Clemson #8 , and GT #13
Edsall
Chalk up another 3 escaped inmates to the big guy.
I’ll say it again— he wins this year (bowl game) or he’s gone.
I don't understand how?
He just opened up some really great recruiting pipelines, these parents sent their kids here because they want their kids to be under RE — I mean we risk a lot by doing that… OBV if he goes 2-10 again its up for discussion, but a few game improvement and he has atleast 1 more year.
Edsall is on thin ice
The recruiting needs to be attributed to Locksley. Do you think Edsall was the driving force behind hiring Locks? He absolutely was not. Locks is here because of outside pressure from guys like KP. The firing of Edsall’s two handpicked coordinators signals as much. KP is highly invested in this program, he’s not going to let Edsall just run it into the ground.
We have no idea who to attribute what to what
Speculation.
This is disegenuous
I think in fact its MORE likely that Locksley was Edsall’s idea than not. It seems very clear that Crowton was a KA guy. He was let go easily and there were rumors all along that KA wanted a big name coordinator so forced them to get Crowton. So when that crashed and burned you think KA was like “Ok Ok, I really fucked this one up, but trust me if you hire this guy, everything will be good.”
I’m pretty sure the opposite happened. It seems a lot more likely that Edsall put up with Crowton cuz KA made him and then when Crowton crashed and burned KA said, “Ok Randy. That didn’t work. Hire your guy.” And Edsall hired Locksley.
Either way it’s getting really old that fans are putting all the blame on Edsall and when good things happen they find a way NOT to give him credit. He deserves a shitload of blame for last year. But he ALSO deserves the credit. Locksley was hired and it seems like a great move. He’s the program CEO it all goes through him so he deserves some credit for any of the good (or bad) things Locksley does.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
blame who you want
Doesn’t change the fact that rockin randy will be roaming the sidelines next season. Difference now is that he’s brought in a couple of his own players rather than using Ralph’s left overs. We may not have a massive turn around, but if we can develop the wealth of talent we brought in (diggs, brown, Reid etc.) Then this is a successful season. If not, then we know we have a serious problem. But at least judge the man using players of his own choosing
by fballplyr92 on Feb 13, 2012 1:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Do you really think
Locksley is Edsall’s guy? One is a strict militaristic old school guy from the Tom Coughlin school of coaches. Another is a younger pure recruiting guy who runs in the sometimes seedy recruiting circles and connects with players.
From where I’m sitting— Edsall’s guys were here for 1 year and then they got shown the door quicker than you can order a cup of rockin randy.
Yeah
I think he’s Edsalls guy in that he thought to himself “Who out there can help me with DMV recruiting?” and Edsall realized that person was Mike Locksley so he offered him the job.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Again
You base your opinions off of speculation, let the guy prove himself worthy or unworthy… don’t let your speculation on decisions to that.
He's spent a year proving himself unworthy!!!
It’s not like I haven’t seen the guy stumble through a year of calling out players / bullshit press conferences / and displaying a general incompetence that proves his unworthiness- at least to me.
He's shown himself unworthy in a lot of aspects.
Especially in the media. But the recruiting class speaks for himself.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
*itself
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Again
It’s a step in the right direction. Given what I’ve seen from the guy on a lot of other aspects— and where this recruiting class stood before Locksley was brough on, remember, before Locskley we had a bottom tier class in the ACC- I’m gonna go ahead and chalk the recruiting successes up to Locksley.
I mean I'm not saying Edsall went out there and got the guys
it was definitely Locksley. But he hired him so there is that.
And at this point Edsall can only go up. He can’t get any worse.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
he also spent a year with someone elses players that didnt respect him...
by fballplyr92 on Feb 13, 2012 1:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why aren't we saying the same thing about Turgeon?
Turgeon isn’t coaching his guys and they are fully bought in to what he’s preaching. Part of being a coach is being able to connect to the guys on your roster. Turgeon’s treatment of this team is the perfect example— he’s getting the most out of them and they respect him.
have u seen the tweets from the last game?
Don’t get me wrong, turgeon is a great coach, but he has it easier in the sense that Gary was as much of a disciplinarian as turgeon was, if not more. So the players were already used to such treatment. Whereas the personalities of fridge and edsall are COMPLETELY different, especially in terms of accountability and conduct.
by fballplyr92 on Feb 13, 2012 1:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
OK- that's a very good point
The transition between the two coaches has been smoother in bball in part because of style of the coaches.
I’ve seen the tweets. I also saw the one two hours later from Stoglin where he realized he was wrong and apologized.
FWIW- I would say Turgeon is just as hard on his guys as Gary was.
I think managing...
13 Scholarship players is easier than managing 85…..
Probably harder
Turgeon doesn’t really give guys like Stoglin quite as long as a leash as Gary would. Gary would overlook the faults of guys like Stoglin and Vasquez because their good points overshadowed their bad points.
Turgeon doesn’t give his guys quite the same leeway.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
What!!! This is false!!
Mychal Parker didn’t sniff the court last year and now this year has proven somewhat useful as a defensive threat. He is only going to get better, I just wish he had played alot more during his frosh year!
by KonartistNupe on Feb 13, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I mean
he probably got a lot better between this year and last which is why he has more playing time.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
But game time is so much better than anything else. For some reason, Parker was in Gary’s doghouse.
by KonartistNupe on Feb 13, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
No one has provided a tangible reason that he has proven himself unworthy
They are speculating about coordinator decisions and their impact on recruiting… Not taking into account the poor recruiting in previous years, they werent his players, they lost a TON of amazing talent (NFL playoff impacting talent), and the injury count… Meh
Don't worry Custos
Terpskin just doesn’t like Edsall. It is hard to argue with someone who has established a bias within their argument
by KonartistNupe on Feb 13, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
I don't like him
I don’t like how he treats his players. I don’t like how he throws Fridge under the bus. I don’t like how he chewed out Cameron Chism after Chism scored on a Pick-6 against Miami putting the terps up 8, when all they needed was an extra point to make it a two score game. I don’t like his smarter than you press conferences where he thinks he can bullshit every reporter on every question. And the sad part is I probably like him better than all 13 of these players that left the program after 1 year in his system (prison?)
So you don't like his personality
And your opinions have nothing to do with his performance, that he can control…. Thanks for clearing it up.
lol
Sorry left this out: I DONT LIKE THAT HE WAS 2-10 THIS YEAR WITH A TEAM THAT WENT 9-4 THE YEAR BEFORE.
How’s that for an opinion having to do with his performance?
Dude you confuse me?
Ralphs 2008 team was 7-5, with the ACC championship berth in their hand, beat 4 top 25 teams, and probably shoulda gone 10-3 or something if it wasnt for an end of year melt down
The same team without a MTSU meltdown
Also goes 9-4
Nvm
Yeah of course Ralph’s 2-10 was bad…any 2-10 is bad. But Ralph had kind of earned that based on his prior seasons. Rockin Randy went 2-10 out of the gate with a talented team.
Last year's team was talented?
We lost Torrey, Da’Rel, Baltz, Wujiak, Moten and essentially Tate from the 9-4 team.
The coaching was bad, but let’s not pretend like Edsall had a 2-10 season with a team full of All-Americans.
What magical world are you living in?
The University just cut sports programs because they didn’t have the money to pay for it. Where are they going to get the $6 million dollars to buy out his contract? He is here to stay for at least another 2-3 years.
I understand the financial impact
What I’m suggesting is that to the powers that be (KA, KP), the damage cost of a few more 2-10 seasons might outweigh the cost of his buyout.
Herpa Derp
I don’t think anyone is going to argue with you if we have a few more 2-10 seasons that RE will be gone.
A Few
When I said “few” I meant they’d make a move in order to prevent a third awful season in a row. If this upcoming season is 2-10, I’m saying they would fire him preemptively to prevent that THIRD shitty season in a row, or the one that would constitute “a few more”
What I actually said
to the powers that be (KA, KP), the damage cost of a few more 2-10 seasons might outweigh the cost of his buyout.
i.e. — in their eyes there’d come a point, likely after 1 more 2-10 season, where they decided eating the cost of a buy out is the smart financial decision, all things considered.
You mean
You didn’t like when I quoted myself thinking its what you said.
:-D
All I wanna know
is what are you gonna be doing once this teams flops again next year and wins one ACC game. Curl up to a Rockin Randy milkshake and say it’ll be better next year?
I'm a huge terp fan
I just can’t stand Edsall, I think we’ll be better off without him and am trying to lay out a path to his firing in my head.
And I love Turgeon to the extent that I hate Edsall. Actually I love Turgeon more than that.
so if everything works out
would you still hate him or would you get behind him?
by KonartistNupe on Feb 13, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
If he turns it around
and goes to a bowl game this year, I will get behind him. Just can’t see it happening
Depends on why we lose
If the team flops due to 24 injuries, and he gets another amazing recruiting class - I will feel the same way I do now.
I wouldn't argue the impact
I’m arguing that the school does not have the money to pay 2 million dollars for a coach each season while attempting to hire another high quality coach to take his place.
You have no idea
that Crowton was Edsall’s guy and Locksley was KA’s. In fact, there is a lot of speculation that it was the other way around.
There is plenty of things to blame Edsall for, but you have to give him some credit when things go well. You have to give the head coach SOME credit when recruits want to come and play here. Locksley might be one hell of a salesman, but Edsall is a huge part of the product.
I don't know for sure
Just like you don’t know for sure that it was the opposite. I’m using what I know / see / hear to form an opinion of what I think is happening.
I know for sure the following...
RE was the Head Coach of this football team when we picked up our best recruiting class in years after our second worse season ever tapping pipelines not previously tapped.
Your entitled to your opinion
And I respect that. But it would be very hard for the University to buy out Edsall after two years with the financial troubles they have. Fans tend to err on the side of change, while the University that spends all the money bringing in a new coach tends to be more cautious. If they can point to any sign of improvement next year, it will be very hard for them to justify spending the money. No matter what we think.
Completely Agree
I don’t think most people realize how close Edsall was to being fired back in December. Also, Edsall had 100% absolutely nothing to do with the hiring of Locksley. KA was pressured into hiring him.
by Garyland4Ever on Feb 13, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
There's nothing wrong with wanting to make boys into men.
there are 120 D1 schools with roughly 80some players per team, not every kid is going to make it to the next level (or as the ncaa puts it most kids go pro in something other than sports). what’s wrong with wanting them to be better people and act/dress in a more mature way, which is one thing employers look for.
I approve this message!
I think what some people fail to realize is that outside of the sports aspect, these kids are eventually going to be thrust into a very unforgiving world. As a father, I wouldn’t want my child to be given a free ride in life. I want her to understand the value of hard work so that she will be prepared for the pressure when it presents itself. Some people on this board equate what RE is doing to the warden of a prison. These kids were not and are not inmates. Go to class, don’t wear hats or earrings in the building and maintain a professional demeanor about yourself. This ladies and gentlemen is the real world and how these future college graduates succeed in the classroom will go a long way with how they succeed in life!
by KonartistNupe on Feb 13, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Two best semesters academically in the last 8 years...
Spring 2011 and Fall 2011.
Bummer
Sad to see Danny go. He seemed like a good kid who got caught up in the Crowton mess last year. I thought once he stayed on campus for spring semester and was the one hosting Diggs recently that he would be staying. CJ ALMOST won a couple games last year when he was an unknown, but he did not win any. He brings a different element, but once schools scouted him – like FSU did — he was average at best. I was excited to get my FB season ticket renewal in the mail this weekend after Diggs announcemt Friday night, but this has me wondering all over again…..
His head was completely f'ed last year
He was looking to the sideline every time he made a bad throw because he Edsall had him on a short leash. CJ was exciting, but like you said once teams made adjustments to his playing style, the Terps had no answer. Maybe Brown and Diggs can keep defenses more honest because I’d dare the Terps to throw the ball if CJ is QB.
All the best
I wish DOB all the best. He played well for the Terps. He stuck with the team through the initial transition. If he is going to be able to play next year, that means that he will also hold a degree from MD. I think that’s pretty tremendous.
He’s a great young man and I wish him nothing but the best.
Diggs
This just means there will be even more pressure for Diggs to come in and perform at a high level. Danny was the face of the football program and now that has been handed over to Diggs. Hopefully Diggs can kill it
sucks that we can’t reshirt him now
by bloodwatermission on Feb 13, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Still can
if we land the transfer of the JUCO QB from Iowa St Community College…believe he played for Locks and was an 09 All-Met player who went to Va Tech?
Doesn't he have to sit out 2012
if he played for New Mexico in the fall of 2011?
There are like six guys at Iowa St CC that have shown interest in Maryland
They all have to wait until 2013. Some talented guys there.
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Thanks Pete
I wasn’t aware that they played at New Mexico in Fall of 11, thought they played at Iowa St CC.
Pride Jerseys
Guess I am glad edsall doesn’t put names on jerseys otherwise my #5 Maryland Pride Jersey would be worthless.
well that was awkward
just had to sit through a class sitting 3 seats away from DOB. All I can say is he is a good guy but I guess he had to do what is best for him
by formerlyknownasjinsookim on Feb 13, 2012 1:43 PM EST reply actions
Like I said on the fan post.
Now is the time to be magnanimous and classy about this. I hope DOB does well and wish him the best of luck. It would hurt to see him go to Auburn or somewhere and see him win a NC. But we of course have to put it all behind us. I figure him and garcia, who are really close from what i’ve heard, will try to go to the same place.
Not to say I told you so but...
I told you so
@terrapinsinsider
Maryland Coach Randy Edsall would not release Danny O’Brien to transfer to Vanderbilt, according to individual familiar with the talks
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I'm indifferent on that
I like it because he’s setting the precedent that if you leave as a coach of a program to go somewhere else, you won’t poach my players. I don’t like that he is screwing with DOBs future though because he doesn’t fit in his system.
I know, I know I can’t have it both ways, but just the way I’m feeling about it.
I agree pretty much
I was just the only one saying that MD wouldn’t allow him to go to Vandy so I wanted to gloat for about .5 seconds.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
you were right
I hope it’s the only school not allowed
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Feb 13, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
thats my guess too
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
that's a given
I should have specified that.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Feb 13, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Just like every job an executive takes in the real world
You are strictly held to a non-solicitation agreement. Usually not enforced for underlings as strictly as it would be if an executive tried to poach — oh I don’t know, one of the potentially more important players on the team.
I do hope this is a Joe Flacco moment for DOB, but I fully support this decision.
Maybe I'm in the minority but this bothers me.
I don’t like the idea of a coach being able to dictate a players future.
Just doesn’t sit well with me.
The school has to rescind a scholarship when it is mid-year
So they have every right to dictate the terms of it, otherwise the player is financially responsible for that school year I believe.
It bothers me that he can eff with Dannys future because I like him, but at the same time if a player could just transfer to another school because there ex position coach got in there ear after they had a bad season, then college football would blow. There would be transfers all over the place
Heard that one of the schools with interest in DOB is Stanford
Get your undergrad from UMD, and then go get your masters from Stanford? And then play for a Stanford team with a good supporting cast? Sign me up.
If that's true
That’s a helluva a deal for DOB. Although, it’s hard following someone like Luck. He could crash and burn like Brantley following Tebow or Gilbert following McCoy or he could do pretty well but still not really be appreciated by the fan base like John David Booty following Leinart.
by TheShellShocker on Feb 13, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
He's going to lose a year of eligibility either way
so it’s going be a pressure-packed senior year for sure.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
He won't lose a year
If he graduates in the spring and then the school offers a graduate degree that MD doesn’t, he can instantly play.
Forgot about that part
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Bam
http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/gradadmissions/programs/daps
I am guessing UMD doesnt have that haha
MD doesn't offer a pretty common grad degree
They don’t offer a graduate degree in Economics. It is Bachelors or PhD. I believe if you drop out of the PhD program and you have earned enough credit they’ll give you some sort of graduate degree, not sure how that works though.
UMD has Masters
At the Smith School, they offer 1-2 year Masters (M.S.) in almost all undergrad business disciplines. I believe marketing is the only one they don’t.
by TheShellShocker on Feb 13, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Econ is not a part of the business school
MD considers Econ a Social Science so they put it in BSOS. It is undergrad or PhD, no masters program is specifically offered.
(I was an econ major)
Or he could win the BCS
And we would all be like { 0 } v { 0 }
But would he even have a real chance to play?
Stanford didn’t sign a single QB this class, they aren’t in need of one.
They have two four star QBs on their roster (one will be a senior, one will be a RS sophomore). The redshirt sophomore was listed as Luck’s back-up. They also have a couple other decent QBs on their roster. I just don’t see Danny ever playing there.
Good points
I was just regurgitating what I had heard on the radio. But, even if he was a backup, if I had the chance to go get a masters from Stanford for a couple of years, I’d do it.
I get DOB, but wass up with Garcia and Rowson?
Why don’t they want to stay and what has been done to keep them? I just don’t see why those guys think grass is going to be greener somewhere else. Don’t have inside scoop but with new coordinators and fantastic recruiting, Why now?
None of us can pretend to know
These guys were recruited by a completely different staff. These is the most important period of their lives. They want to be with guys they’re comfortable with. They might just have not gotten along with Locksley and Stewart, let alone Edsall.
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This is one of the most overlooked facts of all
When dealing with the amount of transfers. Everyone is quick to paint RE as this Warden of a prison when all the while most of these transfers could be directly related to the fact that as kids, they may not feel as comfortable with a head coach that they didn’t originally commit to.
by KonartistNupe on Feb 13, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Attn: Caleb Rowe (calebsc)... I know you're on here.
Hit the playbook hard when you get here because you’re now the only qb on the roster who can throw.
CJ is a nice running qb but EVERY single one of his passes last year was way off target or it was weak (he floated it into the receiver). You CANNOT win football games like that.
I hope DOB wins a BCS game somewhere and proves Edsall to be the ass that he is.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!
smoke'em if ya got'em!
by Daniel Hamilton on Feb 13, 2012 2:33 PM EST reply actions
Uh
have you ever heard of Juice Williams. Just sayin’. He won some games.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Uh I have...
and he’s a very underrated thrower. Had a sneaky strong arm and when he scrambled, he still looked to throw down field. CJ just runs for his life after taking 1 look at his receivers. Next question
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by Daniel Hamilton on Feb 13, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Underrated arm?
The only time the guy did anything of note throwing the ball was when he had Arrelious Benn to throw to. Then when Benn gets hurt for basically the entire senior season the dude throws 12 TDS and gets his ass benched in his senior season.
But he still won games even with all that. Runners win in the NCAA all the time.
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by s.r.genovese on Feb 13, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Kool-Aid
You guys are nuts! No way this is good. No line, no team, and when it comes to lineman it matters how long they have been in college lifting and eating. Freshman and Sophomores won’t do. No line, no QB. No QB, no receivers. No line, no RB. No RB and no receivers, no offense. Prepare for another disappointing season boys. Calling it here.
Fear the Turgle!
Well . . . now you know what DOB thought of
going good to great.. What does that mean for the Terps . . . well . . . we’ll see. I don’t think there’s a way to spin this other than to say it’s an insider assessment of Rockin’ Randy that’s not flattering. But we already knew that’s what the team thought of him – the question is what happens going forward if you’re a Terp fan.
Unfortunately, I think optimism in this program is misplaced.
Glad you came around
for a while there I thought I was in the twilight zone— the only person not able to spin DOB leaving as a positive.
No one is spinning DOB leaving as a positive.
Some just don’t think it’s the end of the world, myself included.
Rock on, Randy!!
by 1 proud terp on Feb 13, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Last year was no fun at all
I’m expecting better next year. We just have a difference of expectations.
by 1 proud terp on Feb 13, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Even if CJ is a beast this year,
there is no way he plays every down
Not with his style
I’m a Michigan fan… I know this well…
Gonna have to hope and pray one of the freshmen can step up
Even if it is just for 4 or 5 plays a game
by bloodwatermission on Feb 13, 2012 3:09 PM EST reply actions
not to mention...
our O line sucks
by bloodwatermission on Feb 13, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
DOB made the decision not Edsall
Locks is going to run the ball and a QB who can run like CJ is a better fit and is going to play more. That is most likely what is going on. Not ready to blame Edsall for that.
He's in the bushes
wondering why his QB is leaving the field with Diggs and Brown coming in.
by 1 proud terp on Feb 13, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
CJ, Wes, Reid, Picket, Diggs.
Looks like GT won’t be the only team in the ACC running the ball every down this year.
I wonder
I wonder what type of program would sign a 5 star WR and then run its ACC ROY QB out of town?
“UMD is my dream job and DOB just didnt buy into my program”
Trouble is we never hear exactly what Edsalls program is…….but 25 scholarship players have turned in their gear…thats got to some sort of ACC record
by TerpfanMA on Feb 13, 2012 3:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The same 5 star that committed
AFTER News of DOB leaving had already hit the wire?
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