Thoughts on Stoglin/Turge Dynamic

He wasn’t playing as a part of the offense or team, he was playing Stoglin vs Duke. You can debate on whether it was the right time to team him a lesson or bench him for that period of time, but he needed to come out when he did.

I’d bet he would sit most of the time until he listened….win or lose.

He needed to get the others involved (pass, draw the crown, etc). There is no “I” in team, but there is one in Win.

Just as Michael Jordan had to learn to be a team first guy before he could win championships, Stoglin has to learn to pass, play defense, move without the ball, etc., to help make this team a winner. He has so much talent but talent is not enough to bring the team to the next level. Now, he has to become a leader.

Without this, he is more like a Carmello Anthony with the Nuggets and then the Knicks. Super talent but something’s missing.

from a great player and a great coach no real issue. Love Stogs he just wants to win. Terps are thin this year but help is on the way and we will get our pay backs. In Turg we need to trust. Go Terps!

We need another point guard

was talkin on the TV broadcast of how Stoglin needed to stop chucking it up and get his teammates involved more in the offense. If there is any color man out there in the game today, other than say Bob Knig..I mean Krzyzewsky, that is more truthful about the way the game is to be played it is Len Elmore. When he is pointing that out, you better believe it.

This kind of reminds me of the Mike Singletary/Vernon Davis situation out in San Francisco a couple years ago. One can only hope that Stoglin will learn and grow from it like Davis did.

Or else Stoglin would probably be suspended for the rest of the season

I trust him enough to handle the ball and to make good decisions. If the clock is winding down he has 3 choices – Padge/Len inside, Faust to drive, or Stoglin to put up a 3 or drive and create fouls.

I know we are a limited team, but this seems the best choice to me. Live by the Senior, die by the Senior.

Turgeon obviously was trying to make a statement that how we play during this kind of season is much more important than whether we lose by 5 or by 15 at Duke.

Stoglin is our best player, and everyone in the ACC knows that. But when he’s not shooting well, Turgeon has every right to not permit him to “shoot his way out” when it means he’s shooting 8 seconds into the shot clock — with good D on him — 3-4 possessions in a row and the game is spiraling out of reach. Especially when Parker and Faust are playing as well as they are and can carry some of the scoring/leadership roles.

I think Stoglin deserved to get benched given his abysmal shooting performance, and as someone else mentioned, Gary would have benched him for much longer. And if it were next year — or last year, or even 2 games ago when we still had Pe’Shon — Stoglin would have been benched for longer. Players like Stoglin will aggravate coaches. He is not gonna go anywhere else, he’s not gonna pout all season — he had a frustrating game and he got benched for it.

He’s a great player, but he’s just a sophomore and he has plenty of holes in his game. Hopefully he learned from this… He is not bigger than the team

As someone said above me this move is for next season. In the near future were gonna have players that can make plays and actually play in a specific offense. Someday were not going to need stogs to be scoring 22 points a game on mostly ill advised shots for us to be winning. While I understand for Stogs that it can be frustrating to sit on the bench when you’ve carried the team all year, I think he understands that this is a part of Turgeon making him the best BASKETBALL player he can be, not just a scorer. Also, I’m mad if its true that players were asking Turge to put in Stogs, seriously man up and make it happen with the five guys on the court….

1) Yeah, he benched Stoglin, but if you listen to him, he also said when he passes out of the double team, he teammates need to make plays – they didn’t. Case in point, look back to when Stogs was able to pass out of a double team. At that point, thats when you press the advantage, but it never happened (or at least very rarely).

2) Duke played Stogs different than EVERYONE else. They double teamed him (even Pe in the first game), but rarely Faust or Mosely when they had the ball. Perhaps he was concerned it would be easier for those two to pass over the top to beat the double team?

Anyways, when stogs was out, the court opened up – it gave chances to parker and Faust to slash to the basket, which they did. Just wasn’t enough on it’s own to keep us in the game.

Face it, Stogs and to a lesser extent Mosely had below average days and the front court got RIPPED. Duke got rebounds on very close to 50% of the shots they took. You almost never win a game giving up stats like that.

Just imagine if Stoglin can play team ball with Faust and Parker.they played great today.Turge has the best interest for Stoglin .

as Georgetown did with Roy Hibbert and Greg Monroe (both had good hands and were excellent passers).

Is not an option, he just isnt good enough offensively, he is all heart and good defensively. But the offense just never devolped, and putting him at the point would not be the answer!

Why not pass to a teammate? I would have yanked him and kept him on the pine the rest of the game. Give one of the other guys a chance for a come-out game.

TS will get all the attention. The more he brings the others into the game, the more open shots he will get.