Plumlees Lead Duke Past Maryland, 73-55

to see Stoglin benched next game. Can only imagine him and Turge aren’t getting along right now.

with Pe shon Howard done for the year…it is just ugly.

None of the other losses were stinkers like this one. Get the plunger – stat.

Dont post on Twitter about playing time. Turgeon is on there!!! And he’ll probably read it too!

22 boards for Miles Plumlee? Come on, show some pride and battle your butt off under the rim. If guys like Len and Pankey are giving the effort that Mosley gives, there’s no way that we get so dominated on the boards.

He is our best scorer and can light up at any moment…..which we needed near the end when we couldn’t generate offense. I know he makes selfish decisions but I am willing to live w/ that right now b/c that’s who he is and we sometimes need it when no one else can create anything (We did have Faust step up today….but how often does that happen..and he’s still a freshman and would rather see the ball in Stoglin’s hands in crunch time).

I personally think it was a bad decision by Turgeon…

That being said: He really shows his immaturity by going and saying that on twitter. Terrible idea!!

Is bad and only looks to worsen next season. Who will knock down 3’s for us next year? We cannot be good in the acc and lose the 3 battle in every big game.

a Three pass rule….no shots before three passes except for Fast Break dunks.

@tstoglin12 Go ham, you have #TerpsNation behind you. You don’t bench your best player unless you want to lose.

Duke getting so many offensive rebounds is all about effort.we didn’t play with enough.

and then pick up Nerlens Noel

He’s bound to have hiccups like this and I trust Turge and his assistants to correct Stogs ASAP.

Was it Cook on him? I understand ya’ll who say he needs to be in there because he can heat up, but he wasn’t getting it done with a poorer defender on him.

it would be much easier for me to not like them.

Just retweeted that “Turgeon suspended Stoglin for showing is rear in the locker room”. Not sure what to make of this.

New world … players have said much worse to Gary behind closed doors or on the bench during games, I’m sure. Stuff is just more out in the open now, that is the way it is.

I have much more of a problem with Padgett, Pankey, Mosely and Len COMBINING for 13 points. Some of it not their fault, maybe, like Mosley being worn down by having to guard 6-8 dudes all the time, but that is not getting us anywhere.

Still, even with Pe, we lose this game …. good time for a crappy team like BC to come to town …. a nice double digit win would help everybody.

"Our whole thing was to be tough, be tough enough and we definitely weren’t," he told the Terrapin Sports Network. "The Plumlee boys were throwing us around out there. Our big guys didn’t give us anything quite frankly — they didn’t score and they didn’t compete."

Coach Mark Turgeon on committing 13 turnovers and shooting 37.3 percent in a 73-55 loss at Duke: "We didn’t listen well in timeouts and today was the first time we really showed our immaturity out there. We had immaturity out there and it was a frustrating day."

Post Diggsday sucks so far

I mean Roy helped sell him on te job, he knows he can thrive

First off, let’s put this game in perspective. This was Maryland playing Duke at Cameron Indoor. Not saying we can’t beat them there, but we haven’t in quite a few years and quite frankly, the last two years have been pretty bad averaging 15 points per loss. We quite simply haven’t had the talent to beat them the past two years. Let’s not forget that Vasquez and crew lost by almost 40 too. Turgeon nor Gary have been able to beat Duke. They’ve had our number unfortunately for the past few years. But we had theirs for a few years in the early 2000s. Hopefully we’ll have their number again soon.

Secondly, both Turgeon and the players need to watch what they say in the media. While I like Turgeon’s candor with the media as a fan, the way we always criticizes the team is a dangerous road. It’s almost as if it’s the players can do nothing good. If we win, it’s that we weren’t perfect, if we lose, it’s as if the team couldn’t do a single thing right. His compliments are sometimes backhanded insults. Things can be phrased much better so it’s not a slam on your own player even if it’s 100% true. Those big men are lacking confidence already, no need to take a hammer and crush them even more. As for Stoglin, players really should not be allowed to post on Twitter after a game unless it’s approved by the PR person on the team. They need to have someone monitoring their social media. Even as a fan, I try not to tweet after a big loss. Honestly, if Twitter existed during the days of Gilchrist and Vasquez, I wonder what Gilchrist and Vasquez would have tweeted.

Third, I’d have to side with Stoglin on this one. 4th leading scorer in the nation is benched while their lead balloons from 4? Great, your second unit when on a good 2 minute run but sticking with them to the end? Once that lead crept back up to 8, Turgeon has to know to make the sub. That is just horrible strategy on his part. By not making the sub, he just let Duke steal all the momentum back. Plus, I’m sure it’s even harder to sit on the bench knowing you’ve chucked up some bad shots yet watching people on the floor chuck up some bad ones or not even have a decent look on the basket. As well as Faust played certain moments, off the top of my head there’s four shots he should not have even attempted. I feel for Turge’s predicament, he wants to send a message but at the same time, you can’t send a message at the expense of giving up the game because you don’t have someone to remotely replace who you’re sending a message too. Kinda a catch-22.

Lastly, this is one game. One that we had no chance of winning. Even at the beginning when Duke was 1-11, we only had a 7 point lead. Quite simply, if a team starts that poorly you need to be able to stomp on their throat especially when you’re on the road. We’ll be fine, the team will be fine. Twitter has made sports journalism too sensationalist. Everyone is trying to make a story out of everything and be the first to do it. Greivis yelled at Gary, Juan and Blake yelled at Gary, it’s competitiveness. I’d almost be worried if Stoglin wasn’t upset about sitting but he’s also got to handle it better internally. We’ll be fine in the future. Simply, Turgeon and all the players need to learn from a game like this this season. Turgeon is bringing in talent. Games like this are always tough to swallow because it’s clear we’re not quite there yet but we aren’t far off. We’ll make Cameron Indoor our 2nd home again!

…others need to lose playing time if not sat the next game, results be damned.

Stephonukah. Maryland-Duke basketball is 10X > football recruiting.

That game is over, learn from it and move on. Pe being out hurts the team a lot. Terps are young and thin but still been able to run with the big dogs in the 1st half of games just can’t finish. Help is on the way and that is going to change. 1st year for Turge and many players. Terps are not ready to go into Cameron and shock the world. Sorry but anyone who doesn’t know that is not being realistic. That said, our day will come and sooner rather than later. This team has made a lot of progress and I am proud of all of them. Just chill and give Turge some time.

I like Mark Turgeon, I think he has been good for the program. But, having said that I don’t understand Maryland’s offensive sets at times and why we play the way we do. We used an almost exclusively screen roll offense today and have virtually every game this season. Yet, because we don’t have a point guard the ball never gets passed back to the big man reversing off the screen rather it is always the guard going to the basket. Any coach watching tape can watch for five minutes and know how to defend UMD.
Secondly, after Duke/UMD at CP you had to know that the Plumlees were going to hurt us. So why don’t we get the ball into the post. A classic move to help yourself on defense is to make the other team play defense. Yet as mentioned above Pankey, Padgett, Len, and Weiss had 13 points.
But worst of all today what I did not like was the lack of basketball hustle. Maryland routinely did not box out, threw lazy passes, and failed to come to the ball to split the high side double team. Its as if the players other than Mosley have no basketball IQ.

some in a couple of years. I’m not saying Turge will wind up a HOF coach (there’s no way to predict such a thing), but his resume heading into his tenure at MD is equal to or better than Gary’s was when he got the MD gig.

Players posting crap on Twitter is dumb, yes. But I tend to take what someone says shortly after a frustrating loss with a grain of salt. I understand Stoglin’s frustration in riding the pine during that stretch. He’s a competitor. But he also has to realize chucking quick, off-balance 3s isn’t a recipe for beating good teams, particularly Duke at Cameron.

I don’t know what to make of Pankey’s comments. Perhaps he’s sensitive to Turge’s bluntness. With a game like the frontcourt played today, though, I’m not sure what else he would expect? It’s one thing to get out rebounded decisively by Henson and Zeller, but the Plumlees?

Speaking of Stoglin: "A later message on his Twitter page said: “Never tweet after a loss. not a bad dude just frustrated. Love terpnation! My fault.”

Turge: “Well, they just weren’t going to let Terrell beat them. That’s the reason [Coach K] has won 900-something games. He is no dummy. They weren’t going to let Terrell beat them, and he can’t handle it. Then, we get frustrated because he throws out of the double team, and guys aren’t making plays. So he gets frustrated. His shot selection wasn’t great. It was hurting us. We cut it to four without him, so we took him out. We’ve got to learn from it. We can’t shoot shots like that and be a good team on the road, but he has carried us. He has carried us. So, it is just one game. Hopefully we will learn from it and be better on Thursday.”

the rest of the season. Every game. The only way we’re gonna win another game is teamwork. Pass to the open man, as Bob Knight says. Forcing up shots and shooting 30% wil result in a L every time.

We knew this year was going to be a struggle. I agree with you guys, we need one more inside big besides Shaq for next year. I love the way Reggie Johnson plays for Miami. Maybe Pankey can do the same next year. A Baxter type to push around the bigs is just what we need. Is Mitchell still available?

Amazing. Coach T is the greatest thing since sliced bread. A couple of losses and he’s suddenly running the wrong sets and not communicating with his players. Reeeellllaaaaaxxxx. Everyone is emotional going into the game (because of Pe), during the game (because of it was Duke), and after the game (for a lot of reasons).

We are talking about 19/20 year olds who just got made fun of by a few thousand 19/20 year olds in a very hostile environment. So, they’re in a very emotional state already. MD players get benched and it adds to that emotional state — negatively.

Let it all play out. We don’t know what’s going to happen, but we just have to trust in the staff and hope the players pull together. It is all about the TERPS. When everyone realizes that, the team will be fine.

But i was like wtf when he had terrell sitting. I know he needs to be taught a lesson, but he sat way too long in the second half. Granted, some of his shot selection was poor, but terrell can’t be stop once he drives in to the basket.

I’m not giving up on this team, but i now realize the chances of us making the tournament are gone. I’m still proud of how we played, considering we just lost our point guard. (I miss Pe’ so much, people were so hard on him, and now they realize how much of a huge asset he was to our team. I can’t wait for him to come back stronger than ever next year)

As for the twitter stuff, they need to calm down lol. Everyone, including turgeon need to talk it out. Public is NOT the place where you should be airing out your issues. But i understand stoglin is frustrated, and rightfully so.

This team needs to just forget about this game, and get ready for Boston College

number ten on the top ten plays for his ridiculous underhand reverse layup

Faust and Parker looked pretty well when they were in the game together, but I’d love if Parker especially could put it together more consistently. He looked great from the FT line, and was driving better.

Pankey is definitely gone, he seems to have a terrible attitude and just doesn’t look like he cares. I’m not sure what his deal is, he’s starting, getting decent minutes, etc. but he doesn’t seem to take well to the coaching.

Maybe at some point the refs will realize that Parker can jump out of the gym and he isn’t going over the back, or realize that Len is 7’1 and he is just taller than everyone. He isn’t fouling them to get an advantage.

I don’t buy into the post Tar Heel letdown. I don’t buy into the story quote “no really” about Parker and Faust. Why? Because Duke has never had jumpers with ability like these and they don’t practice guarding them. Kentucky has them in spades. Wisconsin wouldn’t recognize a speed merchant to borrow a 30’s phrase from someone who used to play a little.No the game belonged to the stronger team and MD ran out of gas. Putting Mosley on Plumlee and Padgett and Pankey on the Brother’s Karamazov only works for so long. It’s like double teaming Jordan.Once he figures out your moves it’s too late. One thing Jay said at game time was to get the ball into Len up around the ten foot line. He hasn’t got the experience right now playing in down low. I don’t agree he should be coming out to set screens because there is no one else rebounding down low in the post. Stoglin launched a few and missed and I am glad coach benched him. He can’t dribble past Rivers on a bad day. No one should be allowed on the court until they can keep up with Rivers. That’s gotta be Parker for his height. Let Rivers drive but don’t give him open looks behind a screen or a cross court pass. He’ll kill u everyday of the week. I don’t know exactly why Len hasn’t learned how to stay out of foul trouble but he better get on it quick. Williams did his frosh season and he learned to extend his paws up high where u have the best chance of blocking their vision when you’re the same height. What’s the point of jumping if you’re getting called? he can’t be bright so he needs coaching. If Stog scored 35 it wouldn’t have mattered. It would have taken fifty shots and we never would have seen some sky from Mychal and drives that Boeheim wishes he had. Now put them together with the rest of the team and u got the beginning of a beautiful thing. Coach has to push these guys into the weight room after practice for twenty minutes of cardio and squats. Nine minutes is half a half and almost anyone can beat u with that much daylight.

I think part of the problem, too, is that when they’re working on rebounding and boxing out in practice, they’re going against other guys who are particularly good rebounders. As perturbed as Turge gets about the rebounding, I’m sure it’s something they work on in practice. But the guys may do well with it in practice, but it’s not necessarily going to translate into games.

MD needs 2-3 more big men; not Len type players but WIlcox/Baxter type big men. Notice that the teams that beat Duke all had agressive, talented big men? Not just one big man but 2-3 just like MD did in 01-02.

Guess I’d wanta hear what Ben has to say….but….I don’t think Alex Len is ever gonna be much of a force inside. He’s a center by height only. True, he doesn’t know how to play yet….more time needed….but…his basic skills are FACING the basket and he is not gonna gain enough strength to tough it out against Plumlee-like competition. He will….help….but he ain’t our guy at center.
About Pe….couldn’t agree more with Ben. Pe clearly ain’t the best at the point. But he makes a huge contribution by letting Stoglin move w/o the ball. Plus, we really missed Pe on defense yesterday. Terps gonna have to rethink (once again) w/o Pe.

Of course we must await the outcomes of each game, but given the loss of Williams and Haaker and the weak performances of Weiss and Len the Terps are too seriously undermanned to be competitive. Their top players must carry the team for the full forty minutes leading to fadeouts late in their games. The Terps’ performances this season, IMO, greatly exceed reasonable expectations of such a young and undermanned team and for that we owe the coaching staff and the players our respect and understanding.

Take the kid out for a couple minutes not the rest of the game. Who else can shoot us back into the game? It’s Stogs fault Pe got hurt, just when he’s really got his game in gear…he’s back to PG. He should just put Faust at PG, it frees up Stogs and Faust can get to the hoop as well as Stogs from the PG position. .

best player or not turgeon had to lay the ground rules. stoglin isn’t getting to any next level if he’s trying to get drafted as a malcontent. but he’s a good kid & player so i hope this all blows over.
and that rebounding is all heart talk. that’s only 25% of the rebounding equation. the plumlees (as much as we hate them) are nba sized pf’s and centers. bigger and longer than anything on the roster. when len and weijs were in they made it a point to try and push them around. they wouldn’t have had the energy to play all out offense if they had to put up some serious energy on the defensive side down low. that’s where the game was lost.
another game, another loss. seriously though, who one TTimes expected maryland to win this game?