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First Look at Maryland-N.C. State: Terps Go for Ten Straight Over Wolfpack

I was going to start this post with a short monologue about how much I dislike N.C. State and how the Wolfpack are increasingly a legitimate rival of Maryland on both the hardwood and the gridiron.

Then I remembered that rivalries are best when both teams actually win sometimes. So, uh, maybe "rivalry" isn't a great word for this contest.

Although there is a fair amount of mutual hatred between the fanbases, Maryland-State has been a pretty one-sided contest in recent years. The Terrapins haven't lost to the Wuffies since February of 2006, when State edged a four-point win in Raleigh. Maryland has won the last nine contests, including both of last year's games. (Maryland's lost to Boston College seven times since then. No, really.) A win over N.C. State on Sunday would give the Terps ten straight, a pretty great run of dominance.

Of course, there's also another, perhaps more important storyline to follow: Sunday's game also marks the beginning of the ACC schedule. Oh, and it's also Maryland's biggest test since they've reached full-strength with the additions of Pe'Shon Howard and Alex Len. Oh, and it's also the fifth incarnation of the Gary-Yow Bowl, which Maryland has taken 3-1 so far. (You can thank Rockin' Randy for the sole defeat.)

So yeah, it's a fairly substantial matchup. Are you excited? Because I'm excited.

Things tip off in the RBC Center in Raleigh on Sunday at 6:00, with ESPNU as the broadcast. Maryland will almost certainly enter as pretty hefty underdogs, and with good reason: the Pack have been a pretty solid team this year. Mark Gottfried, like 98% of the general populace, is a better coach than Sid Lowe, and it's showed: State will likely enter the game 11-4 and riding a five-game win streak, assuming they take care of Delaware St. tonight. Three of those losses, by the way, came against top-30 RPI opponents, and the fourth came against 12-2 Stanford, which is ranked #32 in KenPom.

It won't be easy. Do it for Gary?

Star-divide

I'm sure you've heard that N.C. State is under new management in Gottfried, the former Alabama head man who resigned from the Crimson Tide gig after a disastrous stretch in 2009. As alluded to above, he's done a solid job this year: State is a perfectly respectable 10-4 at the time I publish this post, with no embarrassing losses and an impressive resumé win over Texas that should help out come March. Like Maryland, they've just run through a bunch of middling mid-majors, having won four straight with the fifth likely on the way tonight. Both teams, assuming they don't lay an egg tonight, will come into the contest feeling pretty good about themselves.

Gottfried, thanks to the recruiting ability of El Sid, inherited a pretty full cupboard. I don't think there's a star on State's roster, at least not yet, but they have to have some of the best balance in the country: each player on their starting five is averaging between 12.2 and 12.9 points per game. It's very, very strange, but indicative of the quality on this roster (sort of makes you wonder how Sid did so poorly).

Perhaps the team's most important cog is 6-5 sophomore combo guard Lorenzo Brown. He's leading the team in minutes played and has been handling point guard duties this season in the wake of Ryan Harrow's transfer to Kentucky. Brown's actually been really impressive this year, and would at least be in the argument for best guard in the ACC with his numbers: he's the team's leading scorer with 12.9 ppg and throws in 4.7 boards plus second-in-the-ACC 6.7 assists. And he's only averaging three turnovers per game, which isn't a bad number considering how much he handles the ball. (Less than Pe'Shon Howard.) He's not a sniper and will do more of his damage off the dribble; it'll be interesting to see how Maryland handles him.

Actually, one of the really interesting things about this game will be how Maryland handles State's backcourt height. Brown at the 1 is 6-5, and the 2 is C.J. Williams, who's also 6-5. Scott Wood at the 3 is 6-6. Let's face it: Sean Mosley can only guard one of them. Pe'Shon Howard is a good enough on-ball defender for me to not worry too much about giving up three inches or so, but this means that if Terrell Stoglin starts, Maryland's historically worst defender will be covering someone at least five inches taller than him. Yikes.

In fact, I wonder if Mark Turgeon might consider starting Stoglin off on the bench and putting in Nick Faust instead, who could handle Williams or Wood assuming Turgeon wants either Pe' or Mosley on Brown. Ultimately I don't think the offense could handle that, but it was worth a passing thought.

The other big personnel concern for Maryland with the Wolfpack is the quality of their frontcourt, which should be a fascinating battle. I'm not enamored with C.J. Leslie's production given the potential he has, but he's still one of the better 4 men in the ACC, averaging 12.9 points and 6 boards a game (plus two blocks). He's paired with Richard Howell, a consistently underrated player who's just shy of averaging a double-double (12.2 points and 9.7 boards).

Alex Len is playing well, and both James Padgett and Ashton Pankey are respectable 4s, but State probably has the advantage here. They're actually one of the best rebounding teams in the country, and if they win the boards by a substantial margin there could be some problems. I'm also intrigued to see how they handle Len; Howell is only 6-8, as is Leslie. DeShawn Painter, the first big off the bench, is 6-9. Will they give 7-footer Jordan Vanderberg more than his season average 10 minutes, perhaps sacrificing the rest of their game in doing so? I don't know. If we've learned anything from the past few games, though, it's that Len needs his touches.

Back to State: they actually hae one of the best offenses in the country, as you might have guessed based on the top-to-bottom scoring balance - 25th in the country in the raw efficiency numbers, third in the ACC. They shoot the ball well, all up and down the lineup, whether it's Howell getting some easy looks inside, Williams in the mid-range, or Wood from outside; Wood, in fact, is a real sniper, leading the ACC in 3pt shooting %. It'll be important to keep an eye on him at all times and make sure he doesn't find himself free too much. (The good news is that he basically does nothing else.) They rarely turn the ball over, and are even the second-best offensive rebounding team in the conference, barely edging out the Terrapins and just behind UNC.

For all of the talk about how much good defense was expected out of Maryland this year, they've really been pretty middling. Strides have been made and we haven't seen anyone go H.A.M. from deep that wasn't supposed to, but they're still not where they need to be. Between State's above-average execution, good offensive talent, and impressive effective height, they'll pose a pretty big challenge. It has the potential to be a real watershed game for Turgeon and Maryland's defensive efforts, either good or bad.

Defensively, State isn't nearly as imposing. In fact, with the Terrapins' own offense clicking lately with the additions of Alex Len and Pe'Shon Howard, there could be quite a few points in this one. They're one of the worst perimeter defending teams in the country, at 309th nationally and 38%. They gave up 9-14 shooting from three to Campbell in a home near-loss, 9-19 in another grinder to Princeton, and 7-13 in their loss to Indiana. In short, they're vulnerable from deep, especially if Maryland can run sets to get open looks to Terrell Stoglin. Other guys will get their looks, and it'll be paramount for guys like Faust (unlikely, I know) and Mosley to be feeling it.

The other big thing will be getting touches to Len; I touched on that earlier, but I feel the need to harp on it. I'd guess Howell would be the guy and his girth could pose a problem, but Len isn't a big softie. If Howell can't consistently muscle Len off the block down low, that'll be a big advantage for the Terrapins, and they need to go back to the well. Even if Vanderberg is forced onto the floor, that would give Maryland a decided advantage in skill and perhaps force Leslie or Wood off the court. That's what's so great about having a legitimate big man like this: he can change the paradigm simply by being big, with Maryland dictating to their opposition instead of the other way around. Of course, he actually needs to be able to hold his own on the block for that to happen, but if it does it's a big advantage.

As far as tempo goes, I wouldn't expect it to be a significant issue. State is a fast team but no faster than the majority of the ACC, and they only go about nine-deep on a regular basis, so Maryland should be just as fresh as the Wuffies. That said, their backcourt is actually quite thin; the backup point guard is Alex Johnson, a transfer from Cal State-Bakersfield, but he's really the only true guard off the bench. Tyler Harris can play some two if he has to, but he's not a natural there. Maryland isn't in a much better spot - Faust is really the only guard off the bench - but things seem pretty even roster-wise.

I'm actually of the opinion that State is probably the third-best team in the ACC. I'm not solid in that thought - Virginia will give them a run, but I think the Hoos aren't quite as good as a few of their early results - but they certainly have a lot of high-level talent and have looked more or less solid all year. A road game against a strong ACC team is always going to be a tall task, and it'll be one for Maryland on Sunday. But it is possible to pull off, particularly with N.C. State's iffy defense so far this year.

If you're thinking this preview is a bit dinky compared to most, you're right. But because this is the first ACC game, we'll be having a lot more on it as the week goes by. Can't give you everything at once. If you've been here awhile, you'll remember that for ACC games, most first game previews were more pure-stat, basic-overview type of deals, with more stuff coming later. That's what this is.

Anyway, I leave you with this: "I have a reputation of not getting along with Gary Williams, who tried to sabotage the search. Come on. We all know that. So whatever."

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Duke vs Maryland

I have emailed Ben and am trying to get an answer but haven’t gotten one yet. Does anyone know if the ceremony for Gary Williams during the Duke game is going to be before the game or during halftime? This is my first Duke/Maryland game and I am trying to figure out what time I should plan on arriving.

by Brendan Plutschak on Jan 4, 2012 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

I have no idea.

I would try emailing some one in the athletic department who is in charge of PR.

I remember going to the NC State game where Greivis was honored and his jersey was put up in the rafters and I’m pretty sure they did it before.

by terpfan812 on Jan 4, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Found it. Before the tip off
With some help from ESPN, the situation has been rectified as the university announced today that the ceremony will be moved to Wednesday, January 25 before the nationally televised Duke game. The broadcast, which begins a 9pm on ESPN, will now feature the ceremony for Gary Williams before the tip-off.

http://www.terpsinsider.com/2011/10/11/gary-williams-court-naming-ceremony-moved-will-be-featured-during-duke-broadcast/

by terpfan812 on Jan 4, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

thats what i thought would happen. Hope we get Vitale calling the game(ik he loves Duke and most people hate him)

But he just brings energy to a game that will already be huge with Gary Williams court and it being Duke

by Maryland1206 on Jan 4, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

neither

unfourtanetely he quit his job at cbs, and now works for fox which doesn’t hold college bball. He does college football and UFC

by newjetfan on Jan 4, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

that is a huge tragedy

Alternatively, someone could cover the game using nothing but this: http://www.gusjohnsongetsbuckets.com/

by discuit on Jan 4, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

it's a lock Dickie will go on and on

about Gary. He loves Gary too. He will talk about Gary being old school and winning the right way. No problem by me. Dickie’s my paesano, so I need to support him ;)

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 4, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

thats really why i want him. Whoever the home team is, he makes their fans sound 1000x better

and he’ll talk so much about gary williams and how he his teams were never afraid and would never give up and how pretty much bad ass GW is

by Maryland1206 on Jan 4, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

love ya, bball, but have to disagree.

Dukie V’s act is about 5 years past it’s expiration date. So tired of it. He’s on coach K’s nuts waaaay to much for me to stomach.

by 1 proud terp on Jan 4, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

kinda like Dick clark's New Year's eve show

It’s Americana…I know exactly what you’re saying

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 4, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He truly loves the game. I love Vitale, especially when he's doing MD Duke

He rides everyones nuts though, thats whats great he’d be in love with Stogling and Len

by Maryland1206 on Jan 4, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Only 5 years?

Can’t stand him, but I have to admit he’s probably the right choice for that game for the above reasons

by Womp Womp on Jan 5, 2012 12:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Key to this game

is us running an offense…the Stoglin chuck up a shot and Len/Padge/Faust grab an offensive rebound strategy isn’t going to work against this team. Solid defense and boxing out + running a coherent offense should give us a chance.

by nathan.w.ford on Jan 4, 2012 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

Im legitimately upset that good ole Syd wont be on the NCS bench

i enjoyed making fun of him more than anyone else in the ACC, player or coach. We’ll miss ya syd, go eat shit.

by terps3030 on Jan 4, 2012 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Really?

Of all the douchebags in the ACC present/recent past, Syd Lowe is your favorite target? Including all of Dook’s jerks and Seth Greenberg?

I don’t like State, their fans, or most individual players but never had beef with Lowe. He couldn’t coach his way our of a paper bag but had nothing against the guy.

To each his own.

by tenmore on Jan 4, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.

Picking on Syd is like picking on Helen Keller. What’s the point.

by 1 proud terp on Jan 4, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

it was just so much fun

it wasnt as hate filled as dookies but i found it hilarious year after year where he would bring in top recruits and they would suck. how he always had fans thinking they would win something and they wouldnt.

by terps3030 on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Headin' down to Raleigh

to show some in house support for Turge and our boys in their first ACC game. Can’t wait and will be wearing some gold to stick out!! (Can’t be wearin’ red and black there cause they’ll think we’re one of them!!!). Look for us startin’ a raucous on TV!!!

by pveetvee on Jan 4, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

This will be a battle of coaching wills.

NC State has better wins, based on its resume, up until this point. Gottfried has found a way to better manage State’s egos than Sid Lowe. Turgeon is still struggling to get buy-in from the Terps in terms of consistent execution (on both offense and defense). If Turge can convince the team to be disciplined for 40 minutes, then they can compete with NC State and eke out a W. My hunch is that MD is still too immature to perform at a high enough level throughout the entire game to beat NC State, but if they’re focused and use Len properly, anything is possible. This game will be Turge’s first real coaching test: he has a full complement of players at his command and now he has to convince Stogs, Pe’, and Faust that playing inside-out (instead of simply settling for perimeter shots) is the way to go.

by JuanBlaze on Jan 4, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

NC State also has TONS more talent on that roster.

by nmprisons on Jan 4, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Terps are really going to have to be on point to beat them on the road.

by JuanBlaze on Jan 4, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

ACC Basketball Oh Boy

The pressure is on State. Our guys should be loose and give it all they got. I don’t think Terrell is going to be looking at the first guy bigger than him for the first time. Otherwise, who cares about their height. If they play the best defense of their season, good things can happen. Terps by 4.

by ftmyersterp on Jan 4, 2012 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

State by 10.

Just because.

by db0255 on Jan 5, 2012 3:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Speculation about what kind of team this is will be answered after this game

We’ll know a lot more about all of these guys individually and the team as a whole when this game is over.

Also Nick Faust may not be the offense we’ve hoped for ye but I think his D has been underrated and could be huge this game.

by t.shug on Jan 4, 2012 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

truth

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!
smoke'em if ya got'em!

by Daniel Hamilton on Jan 5, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Will be there too

Wear some Gold to stick out from the color thievin’ fools!!!

by pveetvee on Jan 5, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the one game I would bring Gary back for if I could

There is no way Gary would lose this game. Oh, how much I would give to see us beat the crap out of NCST at their place, and then watch Gary give Yow the finger walking off the court.

by aholla30 on Jan 5, 2012 1:42 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Coffe Talk..I'll give you a topic

Which was a worse move for N.C.State – Firing Herb Sendek or hiring Sidney Lowe?
Discuss.

"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage

by Jergs on Jan 5, 2012 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

Lowe.

Firing Sendek was silly but not without merit – look at what he’s done at ASU. I don’t think he was the guy for them to get to where they wanted to go. The problem was hiring someone like Lowe.

It’s like the Friedgen/Edsall thing.

by Ben Broman on Jan 5, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Correction: Sendek was not fired

This has been constantly mis-reported in the national media. He left on his own to take the ASU job. He was in no danger of being fired. The administration and most of the big $ boosters supported him. It is true that most rank-and-file fans shed no tears over his departure.

But even if he had been, hiring Lowe would have been a way worse decision.

by TVP on Jan 9, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

True but they didn't want him back either

I miswrote. He wasn’t fired but he wasn’t exactly encouraged re-sign either.

But as you said the argument is made that Sendek simply chose ASU because he tired of being underappreciated by the fanbase. No one can really deny that Lowe’s tenure was a complete disaster.

http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/articles/?p=38486

"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage

by Jergs on Jan 10, 2012 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

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