1 out of 7 ESPN Experts pick Diggs to MD
You'll need ESPN Insider, but that link is to a table where 7 ESPN experts project where all the remaining 4 and 5 star recruits will end up. Maryland appears on the table only once, with Dave Hooker projecting Diggs to Maryland. Obviously it would've been nice to see the Terps on there for Goldman or Darby, but hey, at least one guy thinks we have a shot at Diggs. Diggs' other 6 votes went 5 for Florida and 1 for Ohio State, Goldman was 5 for FSU and 2 for Auburn, and Darby was all 7 for FSU.
I realize this really doesn't mean anything, but I'm a sucker for this sort of stuff, and I thought some of you guys might enjoy it too. Go Terps!
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It would be AWESOME to get Diggs
Having said that, I highly doubt it happens. As long as D.O’B. stays, we can seel him as the Desean Jackson type of playmaker with Locks multiple, but mostly pro style, offense.
I can honestly see Goldaman going to AU, FSU or Bama honestly. I haven’t followed his recruitment much but he is aa elite talent so he can fit in multiple places and thirve.
Darby, by my accounts is all but a lock to FSU. The only reason being there track program. If we still had a track and field program (damn you, Yow) he would probably be commiting to us.
We're done w/ Goldman and Darby, but have a better than 1-7 shot with Diggs
Diggs is a very agreeable guy, the type of person who likes best what he saw last. So everyone’s saying he’ll go to Auburn and Florida because he raved about them. There’s another week and a half here and he still has two visits to take.
I disagree
Diggs has a little bit of a showman attitude about him….he likes a little flash…yellow hair, mohawk style and earrings….all of which have been publicly ridiculed by our coach….if your choice is between UMD and Towson, its doable but Stefon is sooooo good, he can go anywhere so why would he put up with this nonsense? Also, getting your name on a jersey doesnt hurt either.
do you actually have any comments to add related to the article?
or do you just rag on posters whose opinions you dont like?
Your mission to troll against RE and KA
is all you got. Do they haunt you in your sleep? They’ve pwned your brain, and it’s funny to watch you suffer.
by 1 proud terp on Jan 29, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
And I responded with more substance to your same bullshit post
on the same subject in a different thread…hence the “broken record”.
by 1 proud terp on Jan 29, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
tru...tru
efficient and effective :)
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 29, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
give it a rest proud man
nothing wrong with my opinions on diggs….save your insults…..I think I haunt you in your sleep…between you and bball purist who actually count my posts and then go back and recheck them to see if they have been deleted, the two of you need to get lives
"save your insults"
classic troll reversal. So, insults are out of bounds now? I’d go back and look at all your posts on RE and KA to see if you’re a hypocrite…but according to you they’ve been deleted, haha.
by 1 proud terp on Jan 29, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
move on
if you have an opinion on diggs coming to UMD fine….if not move on….you may disagree with my opinion but you wont find me on here ragging on other posters because I dont like what they have to say
This isn't about Diggs
He is referring to your constant insults at RE, telling you to get over it, which you need to. RE is staying for at least 3 more years unless he is offered another position, this University does not have the money to buy him out. It is time for you to start looking on the positive side of things with regards to the coaching staff as opposed to the same old RE and KA bashing you do.
I'm with you Terpfan'05......
1pt and bb p get on my nerves all the time with their niceness and knowledgeable insight and the fact that they have a possitive attitude towards Terrapin Sports and honestly care. Why can’t they be negative and stir up a big bowl of ugly soup, I don’t know. But I hope they change real soon………..
by TwerpsNoMore on Jan 29, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
substitute he for she
best I can do offhand – ha ha ha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0i91UaSXl8
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 30, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
Nice!
by 1 proud terp on Jan 30, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
complete link fail...
Bball, help me out….Ugly Kid Joe’s “I Hate Everything About You”
and….
Three Days Grace’s version of same title.
by 1 proud terp on Jan 30, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
excellent pull -
was not thinking about UKJ:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byEGjLU2egA
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 30, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Way Cool bbp.... Dead on !!!!
Uuuum! Looks like Terpfan2005 got askeered and high tailed to the them there hills. He changed his Handle to TerpfanMA which equates to Terpfan MyAss… HaHa!!!
by TwerpsNoMore on Jan 30, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Your point would usually be valid
Except you seem to forget the fact that RE is actually recruiting him. If stefons style is as big a problem as you beleive, why would he even put up with the trouble. Stefon himself said that RE is a good coach. It isn’t like UMD started to recruit him when Locks was hired, RE was his main recruiter since he was hired.
True
Diggs’ mom likes RE. That’s been written from the start. Parents like what Edsall sells. Noah Spence’s dad was a fan too. You can never underestimate the value of connecting with parents. That’s what got us Madaras. Make no mistake: that was Edsall, nobody else.
Been saying this forever
parents are a great great influence on their kid’s school choice. Much greater than any high school coach. Edsall’s mission is something almost all parents will like.
I love RE haters. He will soon shut them all up.
Most likely to keep his mom happy
ok ok mom….I will keep UMD on the list
thanks for making a change in the recruiting world
we value your continued negativity, even for possible positive outcomes with top players. Thx for all your support of everything Terps – we love you.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 29, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
ummm
bball, I was responding to a legitimate question from fatchris related to my post…..why do you insert yourself into a discussion where you are not wanted? Seriously? Keep your posts related to the topic at hand and stop trying to insult other posters…..we dont need to see your petty unrelated comments
Dude
I don’t know a thing about football recruiting and just enjoy reading everything I can about UMD sports, but you make perusing the football recruiting comments on TT unenjoyable. I get that you have a much different viewpoint on a ton of recruits than most of the posters on here, and that is totally fine, but your INCESSANT negative rumblings are lame. Make your point and move on.
Your such a hypocrite
“we don’t need your petty unrelated comments” which follows your statement of “stop trying to insult other posters”
His post is completely valid, if all you have to offer is negativity to this forum you aren’t wanted.
Chris we get the fighter's chance w/ Stefon
Let’s see if he vibes with UMD and the staff during his visit.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 29, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
i know i herd this somewhere but
If you can get a recruit on campus for a visit all bets or off. Its something along those lines as anything can happen.
Especially since we get the last visit
And we’re close enough that we can get in home visits more often than any other team.
I like our chances a lot more than the rest of you do.
When talking about Auburn
Gator Nation blog provided this quote two weeks ago:
“Family.” It will be a strong factor in Stefon Diggs’ recruitment.
That should bode well for Auburn in its recruitment of the No. 10 prospect in the nation.
"They’re big on family," the four-star athlete from Olney (Md.) Good Counsel said when asked about his official visit this weekend to The Plains. "I’m big on family. When I go to a school, I would like it to be like a family when I get there."
Well, we know Coach Edsall stresses a family feel quite a bit. I hope Wes Brown coming to MD helps a bit too.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 30, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
PLEASE DO NOT READ THIS POST
Please do not read unless you can handle an opposing view!
Its ironic that you mention family because if you read the WaPo piece on Edsall at the end of last season, it was in many cases the parents who were most upset with him…they cited among other things, being banned from GTH after games and Edsall refusing to talk with them when they had questions…..additionally, he never involved the parents in any meetings prior to the season as other coaches had done, particularly during his transition year….so stressing family sounds great but actions speak louder……
That being said, I hope Diggs comes here as much as anyone but I am not counting on it…
Let the name-calling begin!
"Family"
I don’t think Diggs is referring to family in the traditional context of mother, father, brother, sister, etc. He is referring to the team feeling like a family, i.e. everyone has each others back, no matter what.
And FWIW, many of the top recruits that were considering MD this year did so solely because there parents liked Edsall. Stefon Diggs mother came out and said she loved what Edsall was doing at MD, ditto for Noah Spences dad as well.
I think what you are referring to is that the parents seemed to have been cottled when Friedgen was here (access to facilities after a game), and since that priviledge was taken away they are offended. Probably something that was promised when there kid committed, but Ralph is gone now so things change.
Well said, my thoughts exactly.
And I’d be interested in knowing which families were upset with RE. Perhaps family of players that were disciplined? Naturally they’d be a little miffed at things.
@TerpfanMA…question, if Diggs does come here, would you still be as critical of RE? What would it take for you to stop criticizing him in every post? Is there a point at which he could ever win you over? Serious question.
by 1 proud terp on Jan 30, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Proud 1
My criticisms of Edsall are not related to Diggs….I think his claim about UMD being his dream job is a lie and I think his personality and lack of coaching ability directly led to the worst season in UMD football history…..I was (and still am) a big fan of Gary and I love what Turgeon is doing with the BBALL team…but I dislike Edsall and Anderson…..we are stuck with Edsall for the foreseeable future…can he turn it around? who knows but we gave him a 9 win team and he turned it into a 2 win team….so to answer your question, if Diggs comes here I will be happy for the team but it wont change my opinion of Edsall…..What could change? Probably not much…I just dont like him and dont see it changing…..sort of like you and me…..If I made 10 positive posts about Edsall between now and next week, would your opinion of me change? see how it works?
What you are not getting is that 99% of the people here
probably agree with you on your criticisms about RE and KA, myself included. We’ve heard it and/or expressed it multiple, multiple times from about the time of the Temple game, until the season excruciatingly came to end. The time for your hate to be vented was then.
Since then, significant changes have been made, new coordinators(one being a stellar recruiter, one a young former NFL DC), players have left and players have committed. Overall, there is a positive attitude about the direction of our program now, and constantly hearing about how last year sucked and RE is a dick, is not going to change those facts. You are right, we are stuck with RE for the forseeable future, so as a fan, I’m trying to make the best of it.
But knowing we are stuck with RE and you admitting that there is nothing he could do to change your opinion, why do even want to follow the program? For the off chance you are wrong? Me too. I’m giving RE a solid 2 more years before I join the hate brigades, so until then, I will defend him as our HC and give him the benefit of the doubt. But I am not a blind follower, I will admit his faults when warranted(i.e. names on jerseys, etc.), but I will not continue to harp on them when there are bigger issues to be concerned about, and other positive things are happening now.
Per your last point…try me! If you post 10 positive posts about Edsall, I’d rec them all I’m sure we’d turn your stuff green!! It would be funny, knowing you don’t believe a word of it though, lol.
by 1 proud terp on Jan 30, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
To add on
1 proud terp and I engaged in numerous debates (some might even say arguments) over our views of Edsall and the trajectory of the football program.
I thought (and still think) that Edsall is overrated as a coach, and an all-around douchebag.
However, my pessimism was based on the fact that we had Edsall, a program CEO-type, surrounded by two clowns—Crowton and Bradford. It was also based on our lackluster recruiting.
Since that time we have hired Locksley and Stewart, and I’m pleased with both hires. We signed Abner Logan, Wes Brown, and Albert Reid. We became fairly serious contenders for Goldman, Diggs, Reader, and Kirven.
I saw nothing to positive about a few months ago—for good reason. Crappy coaches and bad recruiting. We’ve now got an improved staff, and much better recruiting. We have things to be optimistic about.
By all means, hate Edsall. I don’t like him. Most people on here don’t like him. But it is just grating to see you post the spew the same thing time and time again. If you can’t see reason to be positive about the program after the relatively dramatic turnaround of the last few months, you are just a blind pessimist (like that one 1 proud terp? haha).
So heres the thing
“hate and spew” are probably a little over the top regarding my feelings towards edsall….my comments this week were nothing more than pointing out in a post about Stefon Diggs coming to UMD that in my opinion, there was an apparent clash between personalities.(hair cut, earrings)…didnt really say too much more than that……if you want to go back a month or so then I admit I have been more critical of both he and Anderson but I have not been posting and reposting….we will see what happens
Ahh yes, the halcyon days of our "blind optimist" battles.
Here’s how I look at it, if I were to constantly praise and worship Gary like I used to, I’d hope that someone here would point out that it has become annoying(easy, Chuck D.) and pointless to harp on anymore. It doesn’t change the fact that I still think Gary walks on water, but I just don’t feel the need to bring it up in every post now.
by 1 proud terp on Jan 30, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
OK Here is #1
I LOVE Randy Edsall!! He will set the record for the most number of wins at UMD. We will be in the ACC championship game in 2012 and WIN. Book it! We will be 11-1 this season!
by TerpfanMA on Jan 30, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
+2,000,000
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 31, 2012 7:37 AM EST up reply actions
dont believe anyone expects Diggs to come,
people dont have a problem with you not thinking Diggs will come, its your obvious bashing of Edsall
by Maryland1206 on Jan 30, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah.......
Too many rules and regulations. It’s all good for image and piece of mind for the athlete’s parents. But it doesn’t equate to wins and fans in the stands which equals $$$ and respect. We will be stuck at the level of the Military institutes and sellouts will be mostly due to people wanting to see the visting team and not on our own merrits. I am All In though. But it is what it is and we are several years out of having a kick ass team that we all crave. Reality hurts, but it is our team and we have to support…. OUR TEAM!!!!
Big news
Word is that we’re back in the game with Goldman. He supposedly canceled an in-home with Saban, has eliminated Alabama, and has Maryland back on his short list.
Also, Auburn recruiting writers are saying Diggs is 50-50 with Auburn and Maryland right now.
There’s some sentiment growing that we’re going to get both of them, where there was none of that a few days ago. Just saying.
my current thoughts ...
—Diggs will come down to Auburn and Maryland.
—Goldman will come down to FSU and Maryland.
(By the way, when you are responding to your own posts, it officially means you have a problem)
lil' ol' Neil Young
one of his lesser known songs, but…apropos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9NMVqagcaA
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 29, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
dont fuck with us
RIP Lennie Bias
Turgeon General, Fear the Turgeon, in Turgeon we trust.
Lesean is the "Real Slim Shady"
…but in the last days before NSD both rumors and reality shift all the time … you can never get too high or too low on a 5-star kid. There’s too many of the best recruiters in the country working the sh** out of them and things change quickly. Kids are impressionable. Right now the rumors from connected people in the recruiting world say that Goldman & Diggs are both strongly considering us.
For whatever it’s worth, I think this is an example of what the combination of Locksley, Stewart and Gattuso are going to be able to do at Maryland. Stewart apparently made a big impression on DJ Reader and Gattuso was already a proven commodity, so those two guys together can probably make a good sell to a DL recruit. Locksley is Locksley … If we hold this group of assistants together and we’re going to make some noise talent-wise in the next few years. The key will be Edsall tying it all together and showing results on Saturdays. You can have all the talent in the world and still lose 4-5 games every year. Just ask Clemson. Us older folks around here remember well the days that Maryland was loaded with good talent but didn’t have a HC who could win with it. Then Fridge came in and won with the talent that was already here.
I heard he cancelled the Alabama visit
I also heard he already knew where he was going, so … I’m guessing Maryland isn’t much more right now than another school for him to say he’s choosing from.
that could be true ...
If that’s the case, it’s FSU. But even in that scenario, it would be good for us and for Locksley if he put our hat on the table.
seriously, I hope it is us or an SEC school
I don’t want to go up against Goldman and Edwards the next three years.
True, but I think we need to start wanting the ACC to get some of the best players
so we(ACC) can be more competitive as a whole versus the SEC and Big Ten. A rising tide lifts all boats, despite how hard it will be to stomach FSU fans when they are very good again. The better the conference is, the better chance Locks will be able to convince the locals to stay home in the future. But I get what you’re saying, I don’t want to face the Beast Goldman knowing how good he is, and what could have been.
by 1 proud terp on Jan 29, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'd agree with you if it was a school that wasn't FSU
But FSU has had a top 10 recruiting class for at least a few years running, they are underperforming with great talent. If the talent starts going to another school in the ACC I’d hate it, but be ok with it if it made the ACC better. FSU doesn’t need another 5 star DT to be better, the defensive line is sick already.
You're right, FSU is SCARY good on D.
I’m not gonna lie, I was very pissed when Darnell Dockett went to FSU. Nobody wants to see a local beast lost to FSU. But if Goldman ends up there, I won’t be shocked. They have a much more storied program to offer, they have a history of putting guys into the pros. To tell you the truth, I’m more concerned about keeping up with UVA and Clemson. I just see FSU inevitably getting back to the top, seems like the Florida programs are cyclical, Miami’s in hiatus, Florida seems to have fallen a peg post-Meyer, looks like FSU may be back in business in Fla again. My hope is that we might also be able to compete better with Va Tech in the next couple of years, because I think Beamer might be hanging it up soon. But, gotta crawl before you run…let’s land Diggs start this thing.
by 1 proud terp on Jan 29, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
they had lots of key injuries this season
I’m afraid they’ll catch some good “breaks” next season. But they’re beatable as is any team any given week.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 30, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Edsall
I think I was the first “Fire Edsall” guy here .. .but I have to give him due respect now. We may have a real opportunity to get not one, but two top-10 national recruits. That would be unprecedented. Our last 5-star went to prison and never played here. Not sure who the last one was that actually put on a uniform. Just the fact that we’ve been alive with them the whole year after going 2-10 is major recruiting progress. Everyone loves James Franklin now, but if he were still here Diggs and Goldman would never have considered us in the first place – like Jelani Jenkins and all the other studs he missed completely on. We weren’t even getting the good local 3-stars like brandon coleman. Edsall kept us in touch with them through the most miserable season we’ve ever had, and now he’s made the appropriate staff changes so that we can make a big run at them late.
Gotta give Randy his due. Bad season, great offseason. I’m excited about the future now, whereas 2 months ago I thought we were dead in the water until the Edsall era was over.
by FlaTerp on Jan 29, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Last 5 Star
Wesley Jefferson
by TerpFan2001 on Jan 29, 2012 12:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, last 5 star was Bruce Campbell
When they re-evaluated him after his PG year he was a 5 star commit to MD
I'm prefacing this by saying I really dont have a problem with it if it is true
But I get a weird feeling that the reason a lot of these guys are having Maryland reappear on their list all of a sudden and it being between Maryland and SEC schools might have something to do with some under the table dealings. I know here at MD we always are the first to go after people for “cheating” but lets be real for a second, every successful school does it. How do you think the ducks went from oregon to OREGON? Maybe not straight up duffle bags of money, but there are definitely little things here there that can make a difference. These kind of things are standard practice in the SEC/Big 10/Big 12. The only teams that get busted are the ones that overshoot their wad or get sloppy.
The reason I think this is because I just cant see how any recruit, let alone 5 star guys, that would want to touch our program. 2 out of the last 3 years we were last place in a bad conference and we had massive scale defections this offseason so far.
Oregon is OREGON because of Nike
Nike isn’t shy about dumping whatever money they need to for the football team. They get a new uniform by request whenever they feel like it, recruits love it.
Locksley to Bernie Dancel and Dancel to GC players
Hearsay:
Dancel (a GC “booster” and father of our new transfer DB) is promising under the table future $$$ to Good Counsel players if they go to UMD. I’m not sure if this has any legs to it, but if it is true, UMD is playing with fire.
I highly doubt that's true, but Dancel definitely has the means and ambition to do something like that
He also probably has the moral character not to.
I don’t know, though, would you really be upset?
I know this sounds awful
but I’ll be upset if they get caught. We can’t be naive to the fact that recruiting is all politics and back-room handshaking and deal making. Charles Barkley said it best in the Roll Tide/War Eagle 30 for 30, “Alabama accusing Auburn of cheating is like snooki calling Halle Berry ugly.” You can replace Bama and AU with any of the traditional powers and it still applies. Every successful program cheats/has cheated. Its sad, but its the world we live in.
Not really
As long as we are on an even playing field (Assuming every other team has some shadiness, I don’t mind UMD making it fair game).
I'm all about free speech, but
….this is a really shameful topic to start if you don’t have any proof. I hope it doesn’t stem from some public-private school hostility or something BS like that. We’ve got a good thing going with good counsel and specifically the dancel family right now. Why trash them like that with such awful allegations – even just on a message board? I hope, Terps3030 and aimhigh, that you are careful about how you toss around rumors like that.
Question: What’s the 1 thing about Edsall that agitates so many people?
Answer: His over-the-top morals
Conclusion: we’re not cheating & we aren’t going to. Let go of it.
im not saying i've heard this anywhere
i simply think this bc even as the biggest maryland fan i know, I dont think I would tell my own child to play on this football team if he was able to go to schools like bama and lsu.
and if i am wrong and they are doing this above the table they must be some of the greatest recruiters in the country. how do you sell anyone on the state of this program? but if they are, more power to them. if they arent…just dont get caught
Take it easy FlaTerp
This was a conversation with some Montgomery County athletic coaches, who are friends with some of the GC coaches and locals. How can I prove “hearsay” without it actually becoming public? I have zero proof.
All I’m saying is take it with a grain of salt. It is something I heard from people around the GC area. Dancel makes bank so it is not out of the question. He’s a “booster” and the RB’s coach.
I understand Edsall and KA are all about morals and ethics, which is why it worries me to hear something like this.
My point exactly
Your rumor started from public school coaches who are resentful that great players who are zoned for their schools go to private schools like good counsel instead. I’m very familiar with the dynamic. Every good private school is hated by all the public schools around it. It doesn’t justify accusing them of being criminals.
Your spot on
for the reasons that public schools would hate private schools. If nothing’s changed since I graduated, then the main reason they can’t stand private schools is because they “recruit” those players there. I’m not sure how the teams are set up in classes in MD (1A,2A,3A etc.) but when I was in high school in AL in ’06, we had a private school in our division that magically came back from a missionary trip with a strong, athletic 7 footer. The next year they had 3 other top players in the state transfer there from all over the state.
It wasn’t fair to us that we had to compete against a school that could go to other countries and bring players back and have players transfer in from all over the state. That took money and name recognition from our school that we could have gotten if they were in their own class. That same team ended up winning 3 out of 4 state titles while the 7 footer played there. Ben might remember who he is, depending on how long he’s been in Indiana. He played for Crean for a year at IU. Bawa Minuru
No, my point exactly
They are FRIENDS. They are not resentful of each other. While your point may be valid in most other circumstances, in this one, it is not. The public school coaches that I spoke with are friends and have been friends with some of the GC coaches. On top of that, the school that these coaches coach for has been winning championships in many sports in recent years, thus making it stupid to say that they are resentful.
Stop accusing me of spreading rumors, I’m simply sharing “insider” knowledge that may or may not have grounds to it. Last I checked, that is what discussion boards are for.
“Let it go”
ive had this thought ever since ive heard of Dancel. would really dissapoint me
by Maryland1206 on Jan 29, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
positive spin/hope
Mr. Dancel contributes a lot of money to the Terrapin Club – legally – directly designated (behind closed doors with KA) to the football team – that can be done.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 30, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
Private schools
can offer financial assistance to those in need who qualify academically. What parent wouldn’t want their child to get the best education available? As you said, private schools can recruit internationally. Students from private schools are not liked in large part by their public school counterparts. They are deemed to be privileged and rumors are spread. As a McDonough grad I can attest to that. The University would be well served to increase it’s fund raising and it’s academic reputation and become not the UCLA of the east, but the Stanford of the east. Otherwise all’s fair in love and war; just don’t ever get caught.
I'm not following you in your post
Are you suggesting MD become a private school?

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