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Stoglin, Mosley Help Maryland Past Virginia Tech, 73-69

Terrell Stoglin dropped 28 points and Sean Mosley pitched in 15 points and a generous dose of senior leadership plays as Maryland overcame spotty free throw shooting (again) to outlast Virginia Tech and earn their first win on Gary Williams Court, 73-69.

Stoglin's performance was quintessential Stoglin, which comes with all the good and bad you'd expect out of it. (In fact, we've seen more of a regression into the type of Stoglin we saw before ACC play started, which will be controversial.) Mosley's, too, was just about everything you'd expect out of him: a quiet but efficient offensive game mixed in with a bunch of plays that only Sean Mosley would make - great blocks in transition, strips to prevent easy buckets, steals leading to fast breaks, and, yes, a 5-5 performance from the stripe. James Padgett and Ashton Pankey, meanwhile, benefitted from Maryland's increasing willingness to dump the ball down low, combining for sixteen points; Pankey threw in ten boards for good measure.

Virginia Tech certainly appeared like a team down on its luck in the first half. Maryland ran out to a quick 8-2 lead, and the Hokies wouldn't get within three the rest of the half. In fact, VT didn't make a field goal for the final 6:26 of the half, allowing Maryland to stretch their margin in the closing minutes. The Terrapins entered the half with a 32-19 lead, and Tech was luckily it wasn't even greater.

Maryland would start strong to stretch the lead to 15 quickly, but Virginia Tech would answer as Dorenzo Hudson heated up from outside. The Hokies cut the lead as low as six mid-way through the half, but Maryland responded with an 8-2 run to regain some breathing room. The Terrapins struggled to put VT away, and a questionable flagrant foul call on Sean Mosley late in the game cut the lead to five. A crucial three-pointer from Terrell Stoglin and five big free throws down the stretch from Sean Mosley kept the Terrapins in control, but consistently poor defense in the final two minutes and shaky free throw shooting kept the Hokies in it. Only after Stoglin hit two from the stripe with less than five seconds to play was the game truly sealed, 73-69.

How much this win means to you probably depends on how much you like Virginia Tech. I don't think they're a very good team this year, but they're probably not quite as bad as their 1-5 conference record would indicate, either. Performance-wise there were a few troubling factors, but I'm not one to complain about a wire-to-wire win against any ACC team.

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Let's begin matters with Stoglin, whose 26 points came on 21 shots; he also registered zero assists. That looks a lot like the chucker Stoglin that Mark Turgeon had so much trouble with, instead of the distributor Stoglin that had people wondering if he could become the full-time point guard. He didn't drop dimes today and looked much more for his own shot. The result was mixed: he had a number of points that could've only come from Terrell Stoglin and were utterly crucial for Maryland, but also a fair number of shots that were outside of the rhythm of Maryland's offense and hurt their momentum. Serious questions also need to be asked about his free-throw shooting, which, at 4-9, wasn't nearly good enough.

Still, Stoglin wasn't particularly notable. He scored a lot of points, many of them coming on incredible shots. He also took a lot of questionable shots and finished with five turnovers. The only real wiggle room in his game anymore comes from his assist-to-turnover ratio and the number of shots he takes. Other than that, you really know what you're getting.

I was more impressed by Mosley. The flagrant foul call on him was blatantly incorrect; Dorenzo Hudson was literally hugging him at the time, and Mosley rotated his body - didn't swing his elbows - and caught Hudson on the chin. Otherwise, Sugar Sean had one of his better showings after a series of poor performance. He was efficient offensively, knocked down open shots, and hit his free throws. I didn't love every shot he took, mind you, but they went and he's a senior so he has a bit more leeway. Meanwhile, it was his defense that was truly impressive; he had three steals and another uncredited strip that prevented a VT layup; he also had a block on a fastbreak with three minutes left that kept the lead at eight. (That said, you'd be correct to point out that the block was bookended by two Mosley turnovers. Hey, I didn't say he was perfect.)

Nice segue: while Mosley hit all five of his free throws, basically no one else on Maryland could knock down their freebies. Everyone not named Mosley finished 13-23 from the stripe, at a blistering 56% rate. I feel like a broken record on this point, but if Maryland simply knocked down free throws at an average percentage games like these would be so much easier.

The other truly noteworthy performances here came from the big men. We've lamented how little Maryland's looked inside this season, but they made it a point to get their bigs touches, especially early. That helped set the pace offensively, with guys like James Padgett and Ashton Pankey consistently coming up with big baskets. Padgett, especially, had two huge conversions in the second half to mitigate Virginia Tech runs and keep Maryland in control. Those two are developing very nicely offensively, and while they still have their flaws - Pankey's defense, for example - they're good enough scoring the ball to warrant consistent playing time and looks down low.

Speaking of the big men ... whatever happened to Alex Len? Remember when he looked so incredibly awesome? I'm convinced that core of awesomeness is still down within him somewhere, but he's really struggling to unlock it. He played only 13 minutes today, and only five in the second half; it was clear that Padgett and Pankey were Turgeon's preferences, despite the huge size advantage Len would've given them. And I can't blame him: Olexiy just doesn't look very good anymore. He's getting pushed around down low, he's struggling to hold onto the ball, he's tentative on the block, and he's not asserting his will. At times I feel like he's forgotten that he's five inches taller than everyone else on the floor.

Len needs to continue to get playing time, and he will. He still needs time to get used to the ACC game and develop his game both mentally and physically, and once that happens he'll have all-ACC potential. But for those who thought he'd be an instant impact player, well, it doesn't really look like it.

Two other individual notes: Nick Faust looked awesome in the first half and has clearly figured out how to effectively utilize his tools, but he was a bit invisible in the second. Pe'Shon Howard was quieter than he's been, but also better. He finished with only three points on four shots, but he also had three assists and no turnovers. I'm still not in love with him as a floor general dictating tempo (Mosley and Stoglin did a better job of that, in fact), but this was much better than what we've seen from him lately, I thought, and a step in the right direction.

As a team, I really did like the emphasis on post players. That's a ready-made safety valve for this offense, especially when things start to lean too heavily on Stoglin, and they don't look down there enough. Sure, most ACC teams aren't as poor as VT is in the post, but what we saw here should've been enough to justify trying it against tougher opposition. Stoglin started to dominate the ball again in the second half, and I wasn't in love with that, but by and large Maryland looked to push the ball more in transition and dump the ball down to the post more. I'd love to see continuing emphasis on those two points.

Defensively, it was a pretty mixed bag. Things were solid in the first half; sure, VT missed some open layups, but you don't hold a team to 19 points on sheer luck. Fact of the matter was that VT was forced to work for their shots, especially in the halfcourt, and could rarely find openings. Second half, that changed, and pretty drastically, especially down the stretch. In the final few minutes it got to a point where VT would simply come down the floor and find either an open layup or an open shooter on the wing. I'm guessing Turgeon didn't want his guys to foul, but that just wasn't good enough. There needed to be more effort.

All things told, it was hardly a perfect performance, but if the bigs are for real then things will get easier. I'm not expecting a massive performance like this out of Mosley every game - we've seen that fail before - but end of the day, it was a win and not a terrible showing to go with it. Maryland's back to .500 in the ACC and they head into a winnable but tough game at Miami. More on that throughout the week. For now, appreciate Mosley's big game while you still can.

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Curious

Did ehsan get a “sucks” at the start of the game or no

by abt925 on Jan 28, 2012 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

A few yelled “sucks” and a few cheered loudly for him. I even heard some students saying " fuck him he left us for VT."

by hockeyman33 on Jan 28, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Not too many people really noticed

But I had a few arguments. Can’t be angry that he left, but going to VT leaves a sour taste.

by RGoldberg on Jan 28, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

stoglin had 28

If I’m not mistaken. They showed 30 on the board but that was because they credited Howards free throws to him.

by juuustin on Jan 28, 2012 5:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yes, 28, my bad

Was going off SCACC’s numbers because ESPN took a few extra minutes to publish their box score. Thanks.

by Ben Broman on Jan 28, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

ESPN

ESPN listed the game as final at 69-66 on their scoreboard. It was all jacked up

by juuustin on Jan 28, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW

crowd was money today. 95% full and very loud at the end.

by terpskin on Jan 28, 2012 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

Stoglin’s play totally reminds be of drunken boxing. Maybe he spent a little too much time with Dalonte today.

by discuit on Jan 28, 2012 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

Oh
greivisvasquez Greivis Vasquez
Stoglin is a good player but he needs to understands that a PG makes guys better around him.

by word2bigbird on Jan 28, 2012 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

Too bad Stogs isn’t a PG. Come on General!

by juuustin on Jan 28, 2012 5:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

he may not be listed as a point guard

but he brings the ball up fairly often. Both guards are needed to initiate the offense, not just pe’

by formerlyknownasjinsookim on Jan 28, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

With all due respect

stogs is not a point guard. 1 he lacks the ball handling skills to control tempo, 2 he is not patient enough to run the set offense, and 3 as the last line of defense on a fast break he is basically inept. stogs is a 2 and thats where he is most effective.

by LeftyCouldCoach on Jan 28, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

People need to stop saying he's not a PG

B/c a 6’1" SG is useless in the Association. He needs to transform his game if he wants to become elite and carry the team.

by word2bigbird on Jan 28, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not in the Association yet..

While your point is sound that he won’t be an effective SG at the next level, saying he is a PG right now is just incorrect.

by juuustin on Jan 28, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Figuring out the zone..

I don’t know why teams don’t play more zone against us….It completely took us out of our rhythm for a while..

I do like Turgeon’s in-game adjustment to it when he went to Mosely at the top of the key. Generally good decisions.

After loving Parker the last few games he had an awful game, Weijs is useless except for a few fouls and Len was out of sync as well.

Good game for Pankey and Padge inside though…against smaller teams (Not the Dukes, Carolinas, etc.)they can really do some damage….

by TurtleShel716 on Jan 28, 2012 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

Len

Every time he goes up guys are hacking at his arms and the ball just flies out. He needs to hold on to the ball with a stronger grip and expect guys to try and go after it.

8 months in the weight room for him this offseason is going to do wonders…if he can hold his ground down low he will become a force.

by terpskin on Jan 28, 2012 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

Need to keep working the kinks out

I’m pretty sure Turge looks at how players practice leading up to games and keeps tweaking the playing time. That whoever is the hot hand of the day. Today Pankey played terrific, and Padge was solid. Stogs was Stogs – and Mos was Mos

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 28, 2012 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

Consistency

As frustrating as it can be to watch this team, Turgeon and his players have established consistency — we beat the teams we’re supposed to, while wilting against upper-tier, more talented competition. IMO, the cupboard hasn’t been this bare for the Terps in 20 years — but if we continue to beat the teams we ought to beat, we might still have a winning season. What should be noted is that every other team in the ACC (including Duke and Carolina) have had one or more seasons in the last 20 years where they finished in the cellar of the league. While the Terps haven’t enjoyed the kind of win tallies (with the exception of Vasquez’s senior year) they did early last decade, they’ve always kept it respectable, finishing toward the middle of the league. Again, we’ve been gnashing our teeth over just missing the NCAA or the NIT — not about finishing near the bottom of the ACC and at or below 0.500 for the season. So if this is our bottom, it’s better than for most ACC teams.

by Terpmenacestan on Jan 28, 2012 5:52 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

agree 100% with your post

Key phrase " the cupboard hasn’t been this bare for the Terps in 20 years " 4 months ago most of us were concerned about fielding a team without starting walk-ons. If we can win 18 or 19 games I will be more than happy.

by LeftyCouldCoach on Jan 28, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

To not have a winning season

we’d have to go 2-8 in our last 10 games. That would put us at 15-15. 1-9 and we’d be 14-16. Feel pretty in confident in saying we’ll have a winning season.

by terpskin on Jan 28, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I hope the guys keeping grinding and finish around 6th where we are now. This is only setting the stage for next year’s growth – again – more talented frosh, but w/ experienced sophs and juniors.

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by bball purist on Jan 28, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice analysis, Ben

although it seemed to me that Stoglin did look for guys a bit more in the first half than you’re giving him credit for. I think the big attitude change for TS comes when he makes a pass or 2 and his teammates miss shots. Don’t you get the feeling that he’s something of a box score kid? Seems like he’s willing to pass the ball for 2 – 4 assists in a game and score 20 with better shot selection or not pass the ball and score 28 with questionable choices.

Mosley makes so many key plays that don’t show up in the box score that he’s almost like the anti-Stoglin. I think his early threes helped open things up for our bigs early. I also agree with the flagrant foul call. I thought it was totally bogus. Hudson was clearly hugging Sean and he never put his elbow out. It was as if this crew got together, watched the replay and thought that the only way they could justify missing the initial foul by Hudson would be to make a bad call worse and give them 2 shots as well.

by FHFAN on Jan 28, 2012 5:57 PM EST reply actions  

With regards to Mosley...

We watched the replay about a dozen times, and I don’t think he even made contact with Hudson as Ben says in the summary above. Looking at it on the DVR, he clearly whiffs past Hudson’s face as his elbows come around with about 2 or 3 inches in between. It was a complete flop.

by Mike S. on Jan 28, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

one of the angles shows contact from his shoulder/ upper arm…. still not a foul

by discuit on Jan 28, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

correct ... even the point of emphasis in the rules describes it not being a foul

unless the refs ruled his arms moved quicker than his body, which they didn’t.

2009-2010 pt of emphasis:
“2. Excessive Swinging of the Elbows.
Last year, there were increases in excessive swinging of the elbows. This action should not be ignored because of the associated danger to another player. Contact resulting from an illegally thrown elbow can cause serious injury. Consequently, excessive swinging of the elbow(s) is a point of emphasis.
When the arm and elbow, with the shoulder as a base (pivot) are swung with a speed that exceeds the rest of the body as it rotates on the hips or on the pivot foot, that action is considered to be excessive. Contact, after such an action, shall not be ignored but shall be called a flagrant foul. When the player’s arm(s) and elbow(s) are swung excessively but without contact, a violation has been committed.
When the arms and elbows and the rest of the body move with the same or similarly generated speed and contact occurs, that contact is not considered to be excessive. However, the contact is illegal and a foul shall be assessed.”

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 28, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think refs were saying last part occurred

but I don’t get the reasoning

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by bball purist on Jan 28, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they are saying it was excessive, because he was awarded a flagrant foul

I was unhappy obviously about the foul call, but calling it a flagrant when they even had the chance to review was insane to me. I almost suspected it was payback for turgeon and Mosely being in their ears so much the whole game.

by tERP01 on Jan 29, 2012 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for providing the rule. Its a big change from the old rule.

What Mosely did obviously wasn’t a flagrant foul according to this new rule and the refs made a bad call. However, it does seem that he did committ a foul. I say that because the part of this rule that applies to illegal contact requires that any contact between a player’s elbow and an opponent be a foul. It is really a bad rule. It makes no allowance for who causes that contact. The old rule allowed a player the opportunity to take an upright position. If contact occurred, it was a foul on the defender. Under the old rule both players yesterday could have argued well that the contact was caused by the other. That is why I thought it should have been a no call.

by wmterp on Jan 29, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotcha. I'll have to go back and watch again.

To be honest, I was only looking at his elbows. Maybe that’s why I missed it.

by Mike S. on Jan 28, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Huge flop

Or the guy has a glass jaw

by jaypee on Jan 29, 2012 4:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Stoglin FT shooting

hoping this is not a trend..he was so solid at the line up until these past 2 games. Only having one reliable FT shooter (Mosely) would kill us.

by terpskin on Jan 28, 2012 6:07 PM EST reply actions  

I really think we over-analyze stogs

the dude is the best natural scorer we have seen at md in a long long time (the wizard maybe?). Any team in the ACC would LOVE to have him (including UNC and Dook, he has been undeniably better than austin rivers this year). we watch every shot he takes and over criticize. He just put up damn near 30 against VT and has topped 20 every game save a hand full. I was at the game and talking to my friend and we agreed that watching #stogsmode is the most fun you can possibly have at a basketball game. I love watching him drain 3s in peoples grillz. It gets the crowd going and ignites the rest of the team.

by terps3030 on Jan 28, 2012 6:34 PM EST reply actions  

I'll get laughed at for this, but Stoglin is easily one of my favorite CBB players in recent memory (not best, but favorite)

There’s just nothing more fun than watching a chucker with an uncanny understanding of the game. I’m consistently amazed by how good his feel is, how incredible his instincts are with the ball in his hands, how smooth he is. Without Stoglin, god knows where this team is. When we become relevant again, people will be shocked that they haven’t been paying more attention to him.

But at the same time I think it’s valid to look at his game and see where he can improve, and the truthful answer to that is “almost everywhere.” That’s not to say he’s not good, only that like every young player he has a lot of faults. Another two and a half years with Turgeon could do him a world of good.

by Ben Broman on Jan 28, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I love how he just goes into

“F#ck this sh#t” mode. When our offense isn’t working, and everyone else is standing around i think he gets mad and says ’i got this".

by nmcvicker03 on Jan 28, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Glad to see Peshon not have any turnovers...he had a great pass to Stoglin accross the lane and few key steals

If he can keep his turnovers down with better ball control it makes all the difference in the world…I like it when we are able to play both Mosely and Faust in at the same time by taking either Stoglin or Peshon out. The defense we are getting from Mosely, Faust, and Peshon is pretty good…hopefully this team will keep on attacking the rim and getting it to our bigs…our draughts always happen when we just start chucking from far out without any concerted effort to get it down low or attack the lane and drop in those wide open bounce passes that come open when the defense switches. The Duke game in particular we had so much confidence in the first half doing that and than “poof” that swag all evaparated somehow. Even though this game was kind of ugly it should be nice building block for our guys. Miami now becomes a really big game for us! Bring on the Canes!

by terpsontop on Jan 28, 2012 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

Ken Offensively

Len needs a lot to work on to be succesful in the ACC, but if he can develop his offensive game, it will make our whole attempt of getting points down low much easier.

by Brendan Plutschak on Jan 28, 2012 6:51 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

some thoughts on Faust

To me’s he’s really putting together a solid freshman season; especially after the way he started. I’m loving his development and it seems obvious that he’s buying in to what he needs to do to be a great player at this level. He has some.amazing quicks and and I love the way he’s been slashing to the rim. And he’s learning to look for others as well. He had that nice drive and dish that resulted in a 3 from Pe. As the game continues to come to him, I wouldn’t mind seeing a couple 3s per game. Maybe he has to make 3 straight 2 point plays before attempting a 3 or something. And his defennse has looked pretty solid as well.

I see a bit of Moseley in him. I’m really hoping that some of SSM’s leadership qualities are rubbing off on Nick.

by NAmstrong on Jan 28, 2012 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

Its funny that you mention SSM

Because I had a post I was working on a few weeks ago on Mose that started “Sean Mosley was Nick Faust before Nick Faust.” A lot of similarities in their backgrounds and incoming expectations.

by Ben Broman on Jan 28, 2012 9:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

so lets pray

….he ends up a lot better than Sean Mosley. I love Mosley’s effort and D, but its hard to argue that he isnt one of the bigger busts in recent Maryland history. No consistency on offense and often dissappears for long stretches of the game

by marylandfan145 on Jan 28, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

that said

I am happy with the development of Faust to this point. You can see the athleticism and if he continues to develop he is gonna be quite the weapon for us going forward.

by marylandfan145 on Jan 28, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

that was the JR year Mosley

get into 2012 Mosley – he’s lifted his game back up – don’t try to drag it back down!

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by bball purist on Jan 28, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I also thought Faust played better in this game, but

it really killed me to see him miss the front end of a one and one twice with the game winding down. He left 4 points at the line at a time where some solid free throw shooting puts the game away with a few minutes left to play instead of needing stoglin to knock down 2 with less than 5 seconds on the clock to finally feel safe.

by tERP01 on Jan 29, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Seems like Mosley is our only player who plays smart out there

After Stogs missed 2 FT’s, why would we inbound the ball to him with the game on the line? Just give it to Mosley and be done with it. Turge needs to teach some BBall IQ to these players. This game shouldn’t have even been close at the end. Except for Sean, our FT sucks. VT made this game close, when we had it in the bag the whole game.

Oh well, I guess this year is just a learning experience for the non-seniors. And why is Weis even worse than he was last year?

by Snappin Terp on Jan 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

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