Maryland Terrapins vs. Virginia Tech Hokies: The GameThread
by Ben Broman on Jan 28, 2012 1:15 PM EST
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PrintVirginia Tech Hokies at Maryland Terrapins, Jan 28, 2012 2:30 PM EST
Game tips at 2:30 and will be on ACC Network, so it may or may not be on in your area - check your local listings. If it isn't, it'll be on ESPN3, assuming you get ESPN3. Side note: Maryland is now the worst team in the country in creating steals. Vaunted defense there. (Oh, and StatSheet's latest NIT projection (yes, I know) has Maryland getting in as an eight seed, in case you were interested. So it looks like they're on the bubble there for now.)
Random, Baseless Prediction: Pe'Shon Howard owns the fast break today. Not sure how Maryland gets on the fast break, but once they do Pe' drops a reverse layup and a behind-the-back, no-look dime to Nick Faust. Faust, for his part, doesn't take four steps.
Prediction: Maryland makes their stand here. A big day from James Padgett and an understated defensive performance from Sean Mosley gets Maryland the result.
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Love Turg...
but man do I miss Gary’s press. We used to put teams away with that or get the crowd going when we started to fall behind. When you don’t put pressure on the opposing teams guards you rarely are going to get steals.
Channel 8655 on Dish Network here in the South...WJZY.
R.B.P…’Terps come out with a chip on their shoulder, are physical from the start, and destroy the Hokies.
Announced attendance will be in the 14-15K area, and the students actually show up somewhat today
there’s a guess from me
nope.
Half hour to tip and the sides aren’t full. Not a single person on the wall. This is embarrassing.
by CurrentTerp3 on Jan 28, 2012 1:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
For those of you there
How’s the student attendance now?
im reading its not good
bq.Jakob Engelke@Jakob_Engelke 45 minutes until tip, but Comcast is desolate. Really is a shame that this building is only electric one or two times a year, namely Duke.
see above.
But wall is still empty
by CurrentTerp3 on Jan 28, 2012 2:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Pretty bad
Wall is still nearly empty.
by terpfan92 on Jan 28, 2012 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dish?
Dish Game channel in the Mountain West region? Other than PPV.
Where in the mountain west? Full Affiliate List
I see its on in Boise, Twin Falls, some other places.
I'd imagine it depends on whether or not your local networks are carrying it
The list of which is here.
You didn't ask for it
But Faust goes off for 26 8 and 6 after Stog and Pe get into early foul trouble and we win 77-72
starting lineup
stoglin, howard, pankey, padgett, mosley
Wow that is just pathetic
I’m a student and have been to 90% of the games but cant go today since im out of town. This is sad.
Fans?
This should be a good game, where are the fans?
terp blackout?
It is supposed to be #twitterblackout, not terp blackout
Finney-Smith not starting for VT
Raines (6-9 center) starting instead. Helps them with size, but not skill level.
Crap - The Los Angeles affiliate is NOT carrying this one!
Have to watch on ESPN3 instead (which means a small laptop screen).
Stupid Harrisburg area Comcast
My kids are watching cartoons in 60" of high def and I get to watch the game on my 17" laptop screen…bs
Ehh anyone else stuck on standby screen?
by abaek on Jan 28, 2012 2:35 PM EST via Android app reply actions
the tres. just backed out and reloaded ok
by abaek on Jan 28, 2012 2:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Good start for the 'Terps after Wednesday night's game.
Important for the psyche.
We are easily the better team thus far
Just need to stay focused. If we keep dialed in mentally, we might run away with this. Big if.
Stoglin Is Playing Great D
And already has a nice dish. I’ll live with his 1st 2 shots too. They will start falling.
*All Terp Everything*
a lot of fans r there
not the duke game but respectable
Students are back
I think the main problem is that during break a lot of students go away.
*All Terp Everything*
Yes
Why isn’t Mosley( our beet defender) on him?
by Verycooldude9 on Jan 28, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Drive and dish
That’s how it’s supposed to be
My 26-8-6 prediction for Faust is looking solid
#ShutUpIt’sStilEarly
In other news
That blonde cheerleader on the end is really hot.
Might Faust have smoothed out his stroke just a bit?
Maybe? Hard to tell on the poor theacc.com feed.
pankey looks confident today
if he keeps that level of play up he can be a very solid player
by formerlyknownasjinsookim on Jan 28, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions
Green got the start today
He is their best player… When does he not start
by Charlotte NC Terp on Jan 28, 2012 2:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Pankey needs a lot of mental development, both in consistency and basketball IQ
Can’t help but wonder if that has anything to do with him missing two years.
I think I see confidence
You can almost see in their eyes that they know now they can play with anybody
Faust is really maturing as a player.....great decisions so far
"You know my style of play - I know it will be asked - my style of play is winning... " -Mark Turgeon, Maryland Basketball head coach
Just a matter of time
look at his cohort DHS, takes time
if nick could just shoot
half as well as we all hoped he would, he could be a hell of a plyer
by formerlyknownasjinsookim on Jan 28, 2012 2:56 PM EST reply actions
yea for sure
"You know my style of play - I know it will be asked - my style of play is winning... " -Mark Turgeon, Maryland Basketball head coach
by TurtleShel716 on Jan 28, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah he did…
But gotta love his aggressiveness today.
For those of you that were around for the Natty
Was Juan a good all-around player or was he purely a scorer like Stogs?
All around great
Defense and a good ball handler
Jesus this stream
I feel like im watching a double dribble game on NES
it was addressed above
but student turnout is pathetic. what the hell else are they doing at 230 on a saturday afternoon??
are you watching the game?
It is an ACC game, the amount of empty seats in the student section is insane
what is the point of reserving all the seats behind the visitors bench
if none of those people show up. give to the undergrads
But but but ... Parker is so good and should be starting!
J/K, I do want to see more of him. But that’s why he isn’t in the lineup all the time.
all around great
Defense, rbds, shooter….
by valleyterp on Jan 28, 2012 3:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ok, Stogs, better FT shooting than Wednesday
by Jason Middlekauff on Jan 28, 2012 3:02 PM EST reply actions
stoglin has seemed off
the past few games
by formerlyknownasjinsookim on Jan 28, 2012 3:02 PM EST reply actions
on the comcast center
why is the opposing team allowed to get so many guest tickets? It looks like they take a huge chuck of the student section
most of the time there actually reserved for mud grad students
or student groups, but they rarely show up
If VT had enough players, fouling MD every time down the floor
would be their best defense.
by Jason Middlekauff on Jan 28, 2012 3:04 PM EST reply actions
anouncers called it right
zone is messing them up
I know Stoglin scored there, but does MD ever pass on the break anymore?
by Jason Middlekauff on Jan 28, 2012 3:06 PM EST reply actions
He had a wide open layup.
Would be foolish to pass it into coverage there.
Stoglin
seems to really be hustling on defense…good to see
at least
Jay Williams which might be even worse
by SeattleTerp on Jan 28, 2012 3:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I at least like the idea of sticking Faust right at the elbow against the zone
Wish he could shoot, though.
i simply do not understand
how len looked so promising when he first started playing and now looks so terrible
by formerlyknownasjinsookim on Jan 28, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions
A lot of it is mental
Basically all he did when he looked good was catch the ball and dunk or rebound the ball and dunk. I feel like he’s trying to do way too much, and it’s messing with his head when it doesn’t work.
The student section is basically full
If anyone’s still doubting. Best student turnout of season aside from Duke game.
by terpfan92 on Jan 28, 2012 3:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
He looks tenative again
Sometimes he looks great and sometimes he looks unsure.
*All Terp Everything*
good energy
Team making nice strides
by valleyterp on Jan 28, 2012 3:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That look on Seth Greenberg's face
like he’s thinking, “I have to get my resume updated.”
If you don't think they're playing well
You’re crazy. This is what this team is. They aren’t going to put up a buncha points. Turnovers can come down though. Len’s lazy passes need to stop.
*All Terp Everything*
our lead
Is almost their point output. I hope they can avoid the second half drought they have experienced the whole year.
by SeattleTerp on Jan 28, 2012 3:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ehsan?
Any reaction from the crowd? Applause? Sucks?
by Terp924 on Jan 28, 2012 3:19 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Average Half
should be beating this team by more then we are. some really sloppy play on offense.
by Brendan Plutschak on Jan 28, 2012 3:19 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Yes and for the record
Seth Green is an ass
by NeonParkTerp on Jan 28, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry - I meant Greenberg.
Seth Green is hilarious.
by NeonParkTerp on Jan 28, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
So I guess we are in for a second half collapse since we are up by so much...jk
"You know my style of play - I know it will be asked - my style of play is winning... " -Mark Turgeon, Maryland Basketball head coach
Balanced Scoring so far
7 players have at least 3 points, with the highest having 7(stogs) and only Parker hasn’t scored yet, but he hasn’t even taken a shot yet.
sometimes that isn’t a good thing. sometimes you need one player to take over a game. someone like mosley, stifling, Faust or even pankey should have taken over by now and put us up by more then we are.
by Brendan Plutschak on Jan 28, 2012 3:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think we are getting better as a team
Can we put two halves together? That is the big question.
I agree we are getting better. I like that turge isn’t pulling guys out so quickly.
by Brendan Plutschak on Jan 28, 2012 3:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He definitely knows how to use players
I like how we have so many facets to this team! It’s too bad we dont convert cause we’ll be GREAT in a few years.
by db0255 on Jan 28, 2012 3:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
jake layman's stats this week
“Layman led King Philip with 27 points in an 84-69 win over Attleboro on Friday night. He had 30 points and 13 rebounds on Tuesday but the Warriors fell to Stoughton, 73-69.”
by formerlyknownasjinsookim on Jan 28, 2012 3:25 PM EST reply actions
Today we should be able to play well in 2nd half
Especially with the way the Hokies are playing. They’re just terrible.
Shaq Cleare's Senior Stats so far
26 points 14 rebounds 5 blocks.
Keep in mind he’s playing in a tougher league than Layman.
Where has Padge been today?
First time ive heard his name called
We look flat on defense.
Seeing this I bet we give up the lead by the 10 min mark
by db0255 on Jan 28, 2012 3:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
They've increased their defensive pressure.
We’re standing around again.
Faust Is Playing Really Well
He should have like 2 more assists if Pankey converted.
*All Terp Everything*
We're really have trouble getting into our offensive routine.
I don’t like the way Pe’Shon starts it
I don't like our offense in general
They don’t look to the post hardly ever and cut. We should be a slashing, penetration team.
*All Terp Everything*
LOL missing point blank layups
does not equate to great defense
Pe'Shon seems to take 9 seconds to get the ball to half court every time
I keep waiting for a 10 second violation almost every possession. He needs to PUSH it more.
GO TERPS!!
I noticed this.
It could make for a good rinking game. Number of seconds left before the shot clock hits 25 is the number of shots you take.
by db0255 on Jan 28, 2012 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And we're cooling down big time
Come on TERPS…jeezus
Stoglin keeps getting chippy on D after he misses a shot
Entirely unacceptable
Bad decision by Faust to say the least
by Jason Middlekauff on Jan 28, 2012 3:44 PM EST reply actions
Here comes our 2nd half collapse.....
…..every game….don’t know what the deal is with that but luckily we were ahead when it started….maybe we’ll stop the bleeding before it’s too late.
GO TERPS!!
Whatever adjustments they make at halftime
They need to do the opposite. We get killed coming out of the locker room
by Righty Driesell on Jan 28, 2012 3:45 PM EST reply actions
Nick likes that move but it obviously wasn't there. Terrible decision.
Pe’Shon needs to get the offense in motion picking up his dribble. It wouldn’t hurt to let the offense run a couple of picks before he passes the ball.
Where's our defense gone?
We really need to stop them from scoring like we did in the first half.
GO TERPS!!
Wooooo!!
Just scared the shit out of the dog when he made that 2nd three
they really should have made the seats a different color
hard to tell how many people are there (even though we know its full)
I SOOO wanted LEN to flush that....
……but just hit the FTs Alex.
GO TERPS!!
Just adding some muscle over the off-season should
make a big difference for Len.
by Jason Middlekauff on Jan 28, 2012 3:52 PM EST reply actions
Really think Turge wants to be the first to get a technical on Gary Williams court
would be a nice tribute
by Righty Driesell on Jan 28, 2012 3:52 PM EST reply actions
When they mop up the logo
I’ll die a happy man
by db0255 on Jan 28, 2012 3:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i think its more mental than strength.
kevin durant is not particularly strong, but he still manages to keep the ball in his hands
by formerlyknownasjinsookim on Jan 28, 2012 3:53 PM EST reply actions
Defrost for 5 minutes
Per pound of meat. 400 watts. Amirite?
by db0255 on Jan 28, 2012 3:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lazy rebound attempt by Stogs....
…gotta GRAB that ball son.
Padge still has that "no kick out" mentality
He wasn’t getting double teamed in the first half…now he is…but he still takes it to the basket. Gotta learn to pass it back out when the double team comes …sheesh….basic basketball.
Sto has looked awful today and STILL
Has 20 points
Need to step up the DEFENSE
Too many easy baskets….come on
he drives me crazy
Instead of setting up the drive with his 3 point shooting he just takes worse and worse shots.
by SeattleTerp on Jan 28, 2012 4:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
we seriously aren't going to win many more games against good teams ...
with only stogs scoring while everyone else stands around.
how much time left?
my feed is indecipherable
Hey did you know he's the second leading scorer in Arizona after Mike Bibby
We don’t hear that every game…LOL
I remember Henry Bibby...on the Knicks at least.
LONNNNG time ago.
Suspicious
Loss of footing twice on Gary Williams Court.
by db0255 on Jan 28, 2012 4:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I know this is a joke, but that logo is a sticker, not part of the floor
So odds are it’ll cause some people to trip.
I don't think you do anything but make jokes.
Which would make that statement a joke. So … logic, or something.
Is only
a literal mugging a foul? VT is not Duke!
Foul was definitely after his last dribble
seems like it should have been an and-1
I've been multi-tasking the whole game...
where the hell’s the new guy Pete, today?
As awful as that possession was,
it was worth it to see Mosley’s block on the other end
by Jason Middlekauff on Jan 28, 2012 4:17 PM EST reply actions
He just raised his arm....the guy just fell down....how pathetic do you have to be...
…to be fooled by that? Get a TECHNICAL foul TURGE…F THOSE REFS
Wait... let me get this straight here.
Their players are allowed to have marital relations with our ball handler and our guy gets called for the foul?
My wife wanted to know why I was yelling at the TV.
I demonstrated the bad call by having her be Mosley and me be the VT player. She may be pregnant now.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 28, 2012 4:22 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I really wish someone would publicly rate refs
show us when they are called out by the league or disciplined or something. We always hear that they are…but it’s only heresay…..make them ACCOUNTABLE for their terrible game calling. This is TOTALLY pathetic.
Agree.
If this was a Duke game (and I hate to even refer to them or use them as an example) that flagrant would have NEVER been called.
by CarolinaTerp on Jan 28, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
We need to do the same things for fans.
Give a write up for each fan in Comcast: energy, passion, loudness, basketball knowledge, looks (cause fuck you), and ability to do spirit fingers.
by db0255 on Jan 28, 2012 4:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not borderline at all, actually
You have to give a player a chance to come down and turn around. Standing right behind an in-control player and waiting for him to barrel into you isn’t the same as having defensive position.
Mosley may have pushed him but the whistle blew well after the push
Ref was scratching his balls with his tongue…or he would have blown the whistle sooner.
I thought they might've whistled Mosley for another phantom elbow
on his follow through.
by Jason Middlekauff on Jan 28, 2012 4:29 PM EST reply actions
May have lifted his foot..
but this game has been ugly all day.
Mosley: senior leadership
Stoglin: needs to grow up
Our defense has been horrific closing this out
truly pathetic
Yeah, I understand not wanting to foul, but VT probably had a harder time
scoring in warm ups than they have on the last four-five possessions.
by Jason Middlekauff on Jan 28, 2012 4:34 PM EST reply actions
There aren't intentional fouls anymore
Only Flagrant I and Flagrant II
so did Flagrant II replace Intentionals?
Trying to figure out if Mosley is out for next game
holy shit
why is this team so awful when it comes to free throws
by abaek on Jan 28, 2012 4:34 PM EST via Android app reply actions
They still find a way to win, baby
Horrific or not. Let’s go terps.
This game should NEVER have been this close
Most blame goes to the REFS for making some TERRIBLE totally BS calls. But we get that constantly and believe me I’ve been watching this CRAP for years. I’m really surprised that these refs don’t get hurt…..I’m not condoning it….but when u see postal workers go POSTAL…it wouldn’t surprise me if it happens at some point.
On the other hand…our defense sucked the 2nd half of the 2nd half.
THE TERPS WIN....THHHHEEE TERPS WIN!!!
Finally…..this game is in the books….
Huh?!!!! He played pretty decent and generally kept us in the game...I dont get this comment at all
by TurtleShel716 on Jan 28, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Turnover and a near turnover in the closing 2 minutes
His intentional fouls after missing a shot on the previous play.
Missed free throws down the stretch.
OK...he missed foul shots and got frustrated...how is that mentally regressing...
by TurtleShel716 on Jan 28, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
You're going to miss shots
You have to go down to the other end and play good defense when you do.
Yea but he's done that all season when he misses shots...you still haven't answered...How has he mentally regressed
He seems to be making for the msot part better decisions than at the beginning of the season…Yea he still makes some dumb moves…but overall you can’t say he’s mentally regressed
by TurtleShel716 on Jan 28, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
I think that he's rushing shots.
He’s rushing free throws.
He’s getting lazy on defense.
He’s attempting passes that shouldn’t be attempted.
He doesn’t realize when he’s cold and work off the ball; he keeps putting up bad shots even when he’s freezing.
He’s got serious skill, but he’s mentally playing like a freshman, not a sophomore.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 28, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
He’s in a slump w/ FT’s
He still plays good defense..and has to carry our offensive load which wears on him at the defensive end
He at least tries to pass more than he did earlier
He does work a lot off the ball to get open.
He’s playing like someone who has to carry a team that has no consistent second scoring option…..
He’s playing for the most part well IMO
by TurtleShel716 on Jan 28, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
You are leaving out
that he hit the two biggest shots of the second half with his back to back threes to push the lead back to double digits.
Stogs, and Mosley once in a while
are our only go-to guys…We have to embrace it fully. As long as Stogs plays in the flow, he’s fine – he’s improving, not regressing. He just has moments, partly because he doesn’t have much help. We’re playing much better, we just do not have 3 perimeter options this season, which you need to spread the offensive end.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 28, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Again, We are Young and it Shows
They gutted it out, this should have been a blowout though.
*All Terp Everything*
Terps could've/should've had a very convincing win, but
any win is a good one, especially when it ends a three-game skid.
by Jason Middlekauff on Jan 28, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions
Faust
I’m at the point where I don’t want him in the game … yikes.
Besides those couple turnovers
He played decently. Especially in the 1st half. ERRRRYONE played horrible in the 2nd half besides Padge.
*All Terp Everything*
As Greenberg breezes by Turge with barely a handshake
I think both coaches could have suffered embolisms after this one.
But it’s “Noli Nothis Permittere te Terere” = don’t let the bastards wear you down!
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
don't know
might be a dollars game yet again…Last Year, Greenberg was upped until 2016.
Roanoke.com (last year):
“Greenberg will reap more than $1.4 million in this school year under his new contract, including a $300,000 payment to a deferred-compensation account.
Greenberg was one of the two lowest-paid coaches in the ACC last season, reaping $950,000 in total pay.
In late March, Tech announced Greenberg would get a contract extension through the 2015-16 season and a raise. But the financial terms were not announced.
The new contract has been in effect since April, but it was not signed by Greenberg and Tech President Charles Steger until last month because of details involving the deferred compensation. The Roanoke Times received a copy of the contract Wednesday under the Virginia Freedom of Information Act.
This school year, Greenberg will reap $222,346 in base pay; a $6,720 car allowance; and an $871,431 retention incentive.
The retention incentive will increase in each of the next five years of the contract. It will be $1.17 million for 2015-16."
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 28, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Well...we won.
And the fans came out strong today. Pretty solid crowd. The Feb. 4 game vs UNC should be another great atmosphere
when Mosley got humped
and called for the elbow, VT’s guard was grabbing Mosley’s left side. If Mosley moved left, the foul had to go against VT. But if he went right, that was the only choice he had was to move the ball to the right side. That’s a bs rule change they had a few years ago. It didn’t apply there.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 28, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Sean was allowed to take an upright position with his hands over his head and his elbows in the position he had them
The question is whether he lead with or extended his elbows when he moved the ball from one side of his head to the other to clear space. He didn’t and it should have been a no call. Calling it a foul and calling it flagrant made no sense to me.
I agree - it should have been considered incidental contact
you’re a ref, right?
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 28, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, Everyone Needs To Get Off Faust
I have seen this wayyy too many times. I want to remind everyone that HE IS a Freshman! He is learning and progressing as he adapts to playing in the ACC a much faster paced level. He only took 1 bad shot in the 1st half and it wasn’t horrible it was a good look. He had some great passes and should of had a couple more assists if Pankey had converted/held onto the ball. He did miss some free throws down the stretch, but Again HE IS A FRESHMAN. By the end of the season, everybody will be saying how far he has progressed. He will be huge for MD next season, especially with Mosley gone. He works hard on D and can get points when needed.
GET OFF MY BOY FAUST!
*All Terp Everything*
by asianterp on Jan 28, 2012 4:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agree...and in general Faust didn't play that bad today
He missed a few clutch free throws….but in the first half he kept us in the game with Stoglin having a slow start
by TurtleShel716 on Jan 28, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
he whines soooooooo much
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Jan 28, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
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