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Terps Fall to Duke in First Game on Gary Williams Court, 74-61

The dedication of Gary Williams Court brought Maryland a lot of energy, a packed house, and a super-charged and emotional start, but it wasn't enough to overcome 23 points and 11 boards from Mason Plumlee and a more talented and efficient Duke team. The Terrapins shot only 40% from the field and 52% from the stripe as the Blue Devils took the game 74-61.

The intensity for the Gary Game was predictably insane in the opening minutes, and Maryland jumping out to an 18-10 lead did little to calm it. Duke fought back largely thanks to an advantage on the inside, with Plumlee more or less having his way with whoever Maryland tried to throw at him. A four-point swing - a Sean Mosley charge leading to a James Padgett lay-in at the buzzer - kept Maryland within striking distance at the half, trailing only by 37-34 despite a lowly four first-half points from Terrell Stoglin.

Stoglin had a stronger second, scoring three quick buckets out of the break to give Maryland the lead at 43-42. An Alex Len turnaround jumper gave the Terrapins a three-point lead on the next possession. The Duke response? A predicable 15-3 run that nearly took Maryland out of the game. A five-point spurt form Nick Faust would help get the Terrapins back in the game, but it wasn't enough: there was too much Plumlee and not enough Maryland execution.

There were some positives tonight - this seemed a winnable game for about 39 minutes and I think 13 might be a harsh final margin - but it also illustrated pretty well just how far Maryland has to go. They have no consistent, go-to offensive sets. The only elite scorer on the team is Stoglin and even he isn't that consistent. There's still an utter lack of shooters. I'm not sure if there's a true floor general on the team. But most of all, there was no contest between Duke's bigs and Maryland's bigs: Plumlee basically had his way with Ashton Pankey, James Padgett, and Alex Len in turn. No one could come close to stopping him.

Give Maryland credit for the heart they showed and for the stretches of the game where they outplayed Duke - and there were several. Also realize that there's still a lot of building, both through recruiting and developing the current roster, that Mark Turgeon has to do.

Star-divide

Let's start with the offense. For the first 25 minutes, Maryland made a point of attacking the rim. James Padgett and Ashton Pankey combined for 11 points in the first half, and even the smaller players looked intent on getting into the post. When they took outside shots, they tended to be open and in the rhythm of the offense, with some few exceptions that really hurt. This was good, and it led to competitive play and, in some instances, leads.

For the final stretch, the bigs were basically ignored and the offense flowed entirely through the perimeter with minimal penetration. That's not terrible - part of the problem was that Duke's defense tightened up and stopped letting Pe'Shon Howard get past his man at will - but it's a big problem for Maryland, which doesn't have the consistent guard play to focus that much on the perimeter. That's a roster hole that needs to be fixed. Seth Allen and Jake Layman are starts, but I'm not sure they fix things right away.

Another problem is related to the one above: a true point guard. I love Pe'Shon Howard, and if you've been around here since before Pe's freshman year you know I've been driving his bandwagon since before he arrived on campus. But I have no idea what his role is. And I've discussed this before. He's not really a good enough scorer to be a Stoglin-type combo/2-guard. But he's clearly not a true point. He plays out of control sometimes - jump passes in the lane for the entire first half, for instance - but the problem is bigger than that. He needs to refocus the team when it gets away from its bread and butter, get it into sets that will get it into high-possession looks. Either he's not doing that or I have no idea what Mark Turgeon is trying to do with this offense - which, frankly, is a pretty good possibility.

Pe' has great physical and mental tools, mind you. We saw it in the first half. He's getting better at finding his own shot, too, and at converting it. He's a great combo guard. But 4 assists and 4 turnovers, plus the overall problems with Maryland's offense, isn't screaming "lead guard" to me.

Oh, and because it'll invariably be brought up: yes, Maryland shot 52% from the stripe today. They left 10 points on the line. Duke shot 98%. There isn't much you can do to fix that anymore, because if there was it would've been done a long time ago. Until a roster refresh is done and guys with smoother strokes get in, this what Maryland is working with. Maybe it wouldn't hurt so much if their offense didn't rely so obscenely in getting to the stripe.

But the biggest problem was obviously letting Mason Plumlee walk over Maryland's interior, and to a lesser extent Ryan Kelly as well. Maryland did a fantastic job on Duke's guards - Austin Rivers looked exceedingly average and they shot 3-16 from deep as a team - but as a result of that had to gamble by going one-on-one with Duke's big men. That's a gamble I would've taken too, to be honest, but to pull it off you need good bigs. Frankly, no one on Maryland could match up with him. No one had the strength to knock him off the block; only Len had the length and athleticism to bother his shot, but Len didn't have the wherewithal to stay in front of him; and the others couldn't bother him on that sweeping jumper he went to all day.

Shaquille Cleare will help in this regard. But so, too, will be giving Len another year. An extra level of patience is required out of him right now. There are dozens of flaws to his games - his game awareness isn't good enough, he isn't strong enough, his hands are stone, and so much more - but for all that: he's 7-1, athletic, passionate and by all accounts a hard worker. Give him a year. He'll be fine. There's a good chance he'll be better than fine. The problem is that, right now, he's not there.

More coming later. For now, well, it's a shame that they couldn't give Gary a big win on his day, but he's had enough of them on his own. The good news is that the next opposition, Virginia Tech, should be easier fare. We'll start on that tomorrow. Enjoy your riot-less evening.

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Let's get over this loss quick

and get ready for VT on Saturday for a chance to get back to .500 in league play.

by bruterp on Jan 25, 2012 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

I won't be able to get over this loss for a long time.

Gary deserved better than the hack-ass refs that were assigned to this contest. I’m getting sick of this Carolina-school bias, every time we play one.

by 1 proud terp on Jan 25, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Refs

Absolutely, some of the worst refs. At more than one point, two different refs would have different calls.

by sluggedmetal on Jan 25, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

?? gary deserved better?

those were his players out there tonight…. just saying.

by jadams12 on Jan 25, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

If you thought the refs decided this game

You didn’t watch the same game. We sacrificed inside points to avoid Duke three pointers and on the other end we lacked execution and scoring outside of Stoglin. Offensive rebounds, turnovers and fouls were about equal. It came to execution and the Terps could not keep up with Duke’s experienced bigs.

by SeattleTerp on Jan 26, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Refs blew several calls that changed the momentum of the game completely.

No, it is not the refs fault that we lost.

But, they did make many poor calls that altered the natural ebb and flow of the game. And took away several big plays.

@kckb8 ... #getatme

by kckb8 on Jan 26, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Fouls were

18 Maryland, 17 Duke. The refs preferred to swallow their whistles on both ends. Unless you expect that the home team gets every toss up call, this game was fairly officiated.

by SeattleTerp on Jan 26, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

thats the thing

is duke gets a lot of 50-50 calls go there way and tonight it was almost everyone. but duke was the aggressor and we were not so we did not get them.

by MurlandTerps on Jan 26, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Counting fouls like that makes no sense.

It is not a rule that teams must commit the same number of fouls. And I’m not just talking about fouls.

Out-of-bounds calls, tie-ups, and other things of that nature. A few crucial calls were blown. Turge was fuming several times, and rightfully so.

@kckb8 ... #getatme

by kckb8 on Jan 26, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Maryland did not get one close call.

Dook is better than us right now, that is clear, but if you think this game was well officiated then you’re right, we weren’t watching the same game.

by 1 proud terp on Jan 26, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

It wasn't fairly officiated.

There were some very questionable calls, but all in all you can’t say it cost the game. Altered the game, yes.

by nkeninitz on Jan 26, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think you watched the game closely then....

I don’t think it would’ve necessarily put us over the top, but we definately got more of the bad calls against us and a few were at pretty crucial moments. I haven’t seen Turge that livid at bad calls before (correct me if I’m wrong on this)

Sure I think there were other flaws int he teams game and you can’t blame refs for the loss but if you think it was officiated fairly I think you need to go back and watch the replay.

"You know my style of play - I know it will be asked - my style of play is winning... " -Mark Turgeon, Maryland Basketball head coach

by TurtleShel716 on Jan 26, 2012 4:41 AM EST up reply actions  

We sucked tonight

But the refs were even worse. And I was actually at the game. They had no idea what they were doing, and at one point two refs blew the whistle, looked at each other, and got hit with the realization that neither knew what to call they were just trigger happy.

by tumi on Jan 26, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Darn it..

That is on Seattleterps comment. EVERY Duke game we try and blame it on the refs. Sometimes it’s warranted, but tonight it was.bad interior defense, period. Still, I like the approach, had Turge let them shoot 3s we would’ve lost by 30.

by Terp924 on Jan 26, 2012 1:38 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Yep, gets us sidetracked from the real bball issues

There were a couple of calls where one could easily wonder what was the reasoning behind the calls, but looking at a one of those locations the shots were made diagrams would tell us all we need to know. At least 5 dunks by Plum Co., 3 baby hooks with no bump/body dished out to Plums, and at least 4-5 breakdowns on high/perimeter screens leading to layups by Rivers/Curry in the 2nd half.

I liked the energy and burst the guys had in the first half, but in the end, Puke finished on more high quality shots. And Alex gutted out his bum ankle big time. He labored getting up and down the court, and effectively couldn’t jump much at all. I can see the guys continuing to work hard, and keep improving towards the end of conference play. Truthfully, this is setting the stage for next year. The improvement now is for next season.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 26, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

It was a normal Duke game

That is, whereas we normally would get home-cooking calls, we didn’t. Does that mean it was heinous reffing? I don’t think so.

by Ben Broman on Jan 26, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure doesn't Ben

I think after the venting, the board will get back to dissecting the x’s and o’s of what Turge will be shoring up the rest of conference play.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 26, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Refs don’t shoot ft or rebound

If a player doesn't chose Maryland it doesn't make him a bum

by valenciais1 on Jan 26, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Great game

Didnt get the win but I sure as hell hope we win a recruiting battle or two after that game. With all the recruits on campus I would have to think we landed atleast one. Yes I know… Always about recruiting.

by Charlotte NC Terp on Jan 25, 2012 11:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I agree with you Charlotte

The Terps played about as well as the talent on the team. I’d love to set up the Plumlees walking down a typical street in Durham, all alone late at night. Something horrible may happen, like a bad drug deal.
The recruits must have caught the passion from the crowd tonight.

by Snappin Terp on Jan 26, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Charlotte, the atmosphere was awesome

got the creeper tear for Gary, more than enough early bursts to blow up the entire crowd, Turge going into all out single and double fist pumps/punches – that part was great. If the defensive lapses were kept to minimum, we could have hung in a little longer, maybe pulled it out w/ some free throws.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 26, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Point Guard

Tough loss. Terps need a true point guard. I love Pe but he is out of control at times but I love his passion.

by CaptainTerp on Jan 25, 2012 11:36 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Can't blame anyone.

Especially not Len.

Duke was and is just the better team. That’s no one’s fault.

@kckb8 ... #getatme

by kckb8 on Jan 25, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I still don't like

Turge’s timeout timing and the game’s pace under the new regime. I know it’s stupid to think about it in those terms, but I can’t think of a recent team that has won a Natty with a slow pace.

by SeattleTerp on Jan 26, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Turge needed to call timeouts at both points near the end of the game.

I was there, and you could clearly tell we were confused on the offensive end and had absolutely no rhythm.

@kckb8 ... #getatme

by kckb8 on Jan 26, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That may be so...

But all we had to do was make more free throws and either challenge Mason Plumlee a little more on the inside or have Mosely put up just average scoring numbers and we win. It wouldn’t have taken an other-wordly effort to win this one despite bad calls and clock management.

by Terpmenacestan on Jan 26, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I can think of two recent ones

How about Duke in 2010, and UConn last year.

by englandumd on Jan 26, 2012 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Len was out his league last night

If a player doesn't chose Maryland it doesn't make him a bum

by valenciais1 on Jan 26, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but he was supposed to be.

A freshman going against two seasoned low post players?

That was to be expected.

@kckb8 ... #getatme

by kckb8 on Jan 27, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

How can you put the loss on them?

Turgeon wasn’t really out coached and Len had some errors, but was also playing hurt…

by nkeninitz on Jan 26, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

This game proved beyond a shadow of a doubt

that Len needs to get MUCH stronger to compete against the best teams in the country. That alone ensures he’ll be around AT LEAST one more year, most likely two, and possibly through his senior season.

by curterp on Jan 26, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

if he catches that pass on the fastbreak after the block and throws it down the students go CRAZY. instead they were left frustrated and the momentum stalls or shifts back to duke.

by Patrick H. on Jan 26, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Did he have broken fingers???

Is he mentally challenged when it comes to playing defense??? The guy allowed way too many open lane free buckets in the paint and i’m not talking about the Plumlee domination.

by ATLredskin on Jan 26, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I had a good time. Hope Brendan Plutschak did too.

I went in expecting to get blown out… and we played them even through 30. Terrible reffing, some turnovers, and some missed shots and we lose. Not a crushing loss… I’ll be over it pretty quick.

by discuit on Jan 25, 2012 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

Had A Blast

Got goosebumps when they showed Gary walking out to the arena after the tribute video. Team helped give the fans energy for a lot of the game. A loss sucks, but if we were going to lose last night at least we went out with some fire and fight.

by Brendan Plutschak on Jan 26, 2012 7:12 AM EST up reply actions  

wasn't the laser trace excellent?

I didn’t expect it, and it blew away the gray colored signature paint. I think the signature could have been done in Terp red for more effect.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 26, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

a few things..

I dont understand why there was no Weijs in the 2nd half. I know- hes not strong, but neither is Ryan Kelly. Weijs matched up well with him, and brought energy in the 1st half

This team lacks the mental toughness to play a full 40 min and win against a quality team. That starts with senior leadership and PG play. Mosley came out strong and firing….then disappeared. Your senior leader cant disappear. Frustrating, but I think we know what we’re gonna get from Mosley, and not much else. As far as PG play, the reality is Peshon just is not a PG. Didnt think he was when he came here, didnt think he was last yr, and still dont see it. Was hoping for better, but he just doesnt have the quickness. Just because you can make a spectacular pass doesnt make you a PG….perfect example Greivis his 1st 2.5 yrs. Peshon doesnt finish strong at the rim…for a kid his size in terms of strength, he cant flip shots up when he gets to the paint….needs to go up strong and finish strong. He’s a perfect combo guard that should be giving 15-20 minutes off the bench at the 1&2 on a good team…but not the lead PG

by Asnis71 on Jan 25, 2012 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

Man that Gary Williams signature looked terrible on the floor

very underwhelming. The should have put a figure of gary’s figure holding up the fist-pump or something to make it stand out a bit more. Looked like a Chic-Fil-A sign from a far

by jadams12 on Jan 25, 2012 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

Still don’t think those lights under the scoreboard are worth it. Aren’t they like $3k+ each?

by discuit on Jan 26, 2012 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Really? I didn't know that

that’s a lot for them

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 26, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Parker

Should have definitely got more burn.

by gianterp on Jan 25, 2012 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

Our team is pretty bad, and that's true, but this game was definitely winnable.

The only saving grace is that dook is really not as good as advertised, and at least I don’t have to worry about them going deep in the NCAAT this year. They have early upset written all over them.

by 1 proud terp on Jan 25, 2012 11:53 PM EST reply actions  

Len is so frustrating with those hands....

….not to mention how disoriented he looks when he’s in the game lately. There were several times where he had a chance to get a pass for an easy jam or lay up and he fumbled the ball around. Also on rebounds it looks like he’s grasping at air. Almost like he’s trying to catch a football when it bounces off the turf.

I’m sure a lot is due to being young but he has to regain his confidence or he’s going to be another big man bust. COME ON ALEX!!

GO TERPS!!

by cerratos on Jan 25, 2012 11:54 PM EST reply actions  

He's got potential through the roof.

Turge and Spinelli will help him discover it.

Hands and confidence are the biggest issues at this point. Weight is a concern but that is most easily corrected with hard work and time spent in the gym.

@kckb8 ... #getatme

by kckb8 on Jan 26, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

There are plenty of things to be said about this game, but most of them have been covered already

But i haven’t seen this: did anybody else think Stoglin didn’t get enough touches in the second half? Particularly during that drought… which, by the way, is so sickening to see from this team time after time in big games, year after year, even when its in games i don’t expect to win.

by T Free on Jan 25, 2012 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

Was at the game..

that moment when Gary came out was electric and awesome. The place was rocking, and it was a great experience being there for that. Wish we could have won a huge game for him. But the atmosphere at the place was unreal throughout the game. There was one timeout after we reclaimed the lead where no one even thought of sitting down. The place was bouncing and it was an awesome site. From such an unexperienced and young team, I really thought they played tough all the way through. I definitely didn’t expect as much as they gave us, so I am happily pleased. Really looking forward to the future of this team…hopefully next year or the year after, this game will end up in the W column for us.

by packman1 on Jan 26, 2012 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

We need to unveil Lefty's statue before this game next year

And then go inside to piss on the Bob Wade Urinal plaque in the men’s room!!

by Snappin Terp on Jan 26, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

And then we’d never get another recruit from Baltimore forever and ever. He is still beloved there, and people think he got a raw deal at Maryland. I’m not saying that’s true, but that’s the perception in the Baltimore basketball community.

by discuit on Jan 26, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I know why they think that

But anyone that thinks Bob Wade got a raw deal at UMD is mentally retarded.

by GPT on Jan 26, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Loved the spinning circles when Puke took foul shots

Looked great on TV. Too bad they are automatic on foul shots. Maybe we will be by the end of the season.

by Snappin Terp on Jan 26, 2012 12:18 AM EST reply actions  

They've got those every game

I wish they still had those little picture cards from last year. Those were funny and clever. But keep the spinning circles too.

by terpfan92 on Jan 26, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

RE: the signs they did pass out: For some schools, the pictures of the AP trophy and championship ring are a distraction. Not so sure it works for duke…

by discuit on Jan 26, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Love Peshon but we need to tweek things here...how about this?

PG- Stoglin
SG- Faust
SF- Parker
PF- Padge
C- Len

This line-up would just give us more offensive options and athletecism on offense in particular…right now these droughts where the other team goes on a 15-3 run etc. are too much. I think the best shot we have for this season is to run the offense thru Stoglin with Parker and Faust on the wings…trade Faust for Mosely if necessary and Mosely definitely gets his time but let’s give Faust and Parker opportunity and give Stoglin the role of scoring point guard!

by terpsontop on Jan 26, 2012 1:36 AM EST reply actions  

We need to get improved play from the PG position...

…and our PG is PeShon. The only way for him to improve is to play. We don’t have a true PG coming in next year – Allen is still learning the position – so Pe’ is going to have to get as much experience as possible. Taking him off the floor is not the answer.

We pretty much accepted this season would be measured by the degree to which we improved (individually and as a team). If we’re going to be an NCAAT team next season, PeShon needs to improve at the point. He can’t do that on the bench. He’s our PG until 2013 at the earliest, and we need him on the floor.

by curterp on Jan 26, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Id go Pe, Stoglin,Faust,Parker,padge

If a player doesn't chose Maryland it doesn't make him a bum

by valenciais1 on Jan 26, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

That's be a cool line-up to see as well...agree that Peshon only gets better by getting the time and he will get better especially with Turgeon helping him...

It just seems like particularly Parker and possibly Faust are starting to bloom…a lot of people are calling for Parker to get more time. I just think we need to play to our strengths and allow ourselves to be flexible enough where teams that play Maryland have no idea what we are going to do- ie the various combinations of how we put our pieces together etc. So Cuterp you are definitely right lets keep giving Peshon time but let’s also rearrange the rubix cube at points and surprise a few teams!

by terpsontop on Jan 26, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Len has amazing potential

but he looked lost on the court tonight. Dropped passes, blown assignments on D, random jumpers. I was hoping he would show a little more in the big games because this year he is the key to beating the Dukes and UNCs of the world. Stoglin is a great player, but there is only so much he can do without a threat down low. I think he will improve A LOT with an offseason because he can add some muscle and become more comfortable with the college game.

by tmoneyttime1 on Jan 26, 2012 1:58 AM EST reply actions  

A quick comment about free throws

It doesn’t matter how much time the players spend shooting FTs. This is the area of the game that most demands the Cal Ripken theory:

Practice doesn’t make perferct. Perfect practice makes perfect.

If a player has bad mechanics in practice then those bad mechanics are going to become more apparent in game situations.

by FHFAN on Jan 26, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I was behind Reed

didn’t know that was Jalen who he introduced though
I thought it was Dexter McDougle

by bloodwatermission on Jan 26, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Jalen and Dex look a lot alike, actually.

You might be right, because Torrey and McDougle go way back.

by Ben Broman on Jan 26, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno

I looked up a picture on my Android to make sure. It looked exactly like Jalen.

I just looked up a picture of Dexter, definitely not Dexter. I think Dexter was sitting next to him and then Jalen came over with Torrey at half.

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by John Stephens on Jan 26, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Recruits don't show emotion

unless they’re McGary at a football game – lol

Usually, recuits are right behind refs who are at games. Refs will sit silently with their arms crossed and not say much (in case anyone tries to accuse them of being partial if they ever work a game at that school later on (judging by seattleterp and following comments, you can see why). I’m guessing some recruits are trying to lay low unless they’ve already signed LOI or committed.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 26, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually the most emotion I ever saw from a recruit

was Shane Walker. He sat in front of me a couple of times before committing and would go crazy throughout the game. It sucked because he was 6’10 and I couldn’t see, but I had no question he was going to commit.

Of course he transferred in a year anyway so it really didn’t matter.

by RGoldberg on Jan 26, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Torrey Smith

Torrey Smith is going to become one of the best recievers in the league! Love that he came to the game last night and worked to get a BB recruit into the Maryland scene!!

by LongTimeTerpFan on Jan 26, 2012 7:05 AM EST reply actions  

errrr

Jalen Tabor plays football, one of the top corner prospects of 2014

by djcarv2005 on Jan 26, 2012 7:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Tough loss

Turge made a great point, if you watch the MD team play last night compared to the MD vs Alabama, two totally different teams. Very much improved on defense especially. To me it seemed quite simple, Turge was content to let our bigs go1v1 with Plumlee. We found out our bigs are not too good defensively right now. Although I don’t know why he didn’t’ give Padge a shot, at least he would have been physical maybe even a couple of good hard fouls.

by IUterpfan on Jan 26, 2012 7:25 AM EST reply actions  

ty

Even though Mason had an on night 5/5 at the line and surprised me, we should have been fouling him hard and keep putting him at the line. The plum dunks and baby hooks were maddening.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 26, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

According to ESPN's box score, Padge was in the game for 30 minutes...

… The most time of any of the bigs. By comparison, Pankey was in for 23, Len for 12, and Weijs for 5. Maybe Padge was out for crucial moments, I don’t recall. But on paper anyway it seems like he got his chance.

by Terpmenacestan on Jan 26, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Padge

He was mostly on Kelly and the other Plumlee. I might be mistaken but I never saw him post D. Either way, we should have put them on the line more, nothing wrong with some hard fouls.

by IUterpfan on Jan 26, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Inside defense

The rotation was terrible last night, they consistently left the paint wide open when the Plumlees would get out to the 3 point line, leaving it for the easy drive and lay in. When Miles (?) would get the ball, it was the same move, over and over and over. Why couldn’t one person just jump in and disrupt the motion of it at least? It was so frustrating to watch because right when he got the ball in the paint you knew what was going to happen.

Overall though the perimeter defense was vastly improved, but it was at hte expense of interior defense. I agree with the posters above, if we can somehow figure out a way to prevent these 12-15 point runs in the second half we could win a lot of these games. Although, if we could just improve the Free Throw shooting…..ugh.

by djcarv2005 on Jan 26, 2012 7:41 AM EST reply actions  

Duke Junior Forward Ryan Kelly

“…You’re not going to play against a team that has a greater crowd at their home court…”

by discuit on Jan 26, 2012 8:01 AM EST reply actions  

Newfound respect for Ryan Kelly?

Maybe just a little?

@kckb8 ... #getatme

by kckb8 on Jan 26, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

That's saying a lot

He’s had some stiff competition over the years. I think being butt assed ugly is part of the admissions process at Duke, athletes and students alike.

by GPT on Jan 26, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

not even ugliest dookie on this years team

that’s a three way tie between the Plumlees.

and Shelden Williams for ugliest Dookie ever for sure.

by srabin16 on Jan 26, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys are obviously too young to remember Cherokee Parks.

Dude looked like Phil Hartman doing Frankenstein on SNL.

Fugly.

by 1 proud terp on Jan 26, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yep

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 26, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Overall not bad

I thought the first half was as good as we played all year. Great execution, defense and we were hitting free throws. The second half fell apart. Shots were forced and we started turning the ball over, and lost our touch at the line. Coach K figured us out. We are what we are. Len is a work in progress, as is Faust. Pankey is just coming back from two missed seasons. Padgett is giving us more than we ever hoped possible. P’Shon is a good player, lots of heart but not a true game leader. Parker is still adjusting to real competition. Mosley is Mosley, plays hard, is under-sized, and an under-achiever. Stogs is the real deal, but can’t do it all. Give it all time. Enjoy the ride, and let Turg and Co get us some real talent for years to come.

by jlowenc on Jan 26, 2012 8:21 AM EST reply actions  

Why are we such a bad second half team???

Great first halves against Illinois, Cornell, Wake Forest, Florida State, and Duke.

Horrible second halves against Illinois, Cornell, Wake Forest, Florida State, and Duke.

and lets go to Bentleys...

by johnnyrobs13 on Jan 26, 2012 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

i was at the game, and i'm at a loss for words

i didn’t know what to say. It seems we can only play really well for 20 minutes, and once we come back after halftime, we lose it. Turgeon needs to yell at them more, or say something different cause i don’t understand how we look like 2 completely different teams each half.

We couldn’t stop Plumlee’s in the paint. No matter how hard we tried. At times they were left wide open too. Alex Len gets into foul trouble WAY too easily. I’d rather him just stand with his hands up, rather than try to block shots.

FREE THROWS. I swear he needs to utilize an entire day of practice of shooting free throws. When Stoglin missed both, my jaw dropped.

This team gives up easily as well. We could’ve won, up until about the 7 minute mark in the second half, you could tell they just gave up.

I think pe’ looks better. He’s getting there. I’m not sure if he’s a true pg, but he’s my favorite player because he has alot of heart. You can tell he wants to get better. Plus, although his passes aren’t the best, they are pretty unique which makes him, him.

Stoglin had a rough night, but of course he’s gunna get his points regardless. he’s very quick.

Mosley, was a hit and miss tonight with scoring. But his defense was good for the most part.

I hated the refs. especially the white haired one. He needs to go, even though we lost on our own right, the refs definitely helped duke catch up several times, gave them alot of BS calls.

by terp10 on Jan 26, 2012 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

2nd Half Improvement

The Terps have been thoroughly outplayed out of the second-half gate this year by lesser teams than Duke. Last night, they were more than competitive for about the first eight minutes of the second half. This was a step forward.

by Runningcloud on Jan 26, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

some different views ...

1. Offense seems very similar from what I see from most. Generally pick high and try to get the defense confused and out of position. I thought the 1st half was brilliant (Bobby K seemed to agree). True Duke shut it down a bit, but at this point i am happy with a great half.
2. It is Pe for this year and next, so hopefully he continues to improve. This is his first year starting and he is joined by a lot of inexperience.
3. Remember the expectations …. this group is young and is going to have bad spurts. They are improving, that is what we want to see.
4. Sure I want to win, but at this time we have to be thinking longer term.

by Gabes on Jan 26, 2012 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

Predictable comments

It’s easy to pick apart a young team lacking in the kinetics of ball play. It’s been a constant at MD since Blake left and for a small amount of time when Hayes was a senior. The team lacks focus and part of the problem is Stoglin hogs the ball and occasionally does quite well with the brick. I have to wonder what goes thru a guys head when he’s missing and continues to shoot. Like Robbie Hummel who regained his stroke in the middle of the game earlier this week it was conventional wisdom that he should keep shooting. Not for lack of trying many misses later it was obvious he wasn’t being fed the ball in his sweet spot. And there lies the problem with this team and the previous half a dozen. There are spurts because there is latent talent which gets exposed as tarnished when the game gets hot and there is no ball handler out there. Stoglin couldn’t run a team if he were tied to the post because he’d find a way to shoot. But I recall a guy like Page last night on OK State and MacNamara at Cuse and even that pain in the neck Scheyer at Duke. They weren’t outstanding ball players but they were consistently smart passes, looking for the open man. I don’t think Howard has that eye for it. He runs the ball down court like he’s heading for the end zone. I’m missing a guy like Steve who was a general out there. Even with improved play from starters and the bench there’s no fluidity. They are all role players not first team players not for lack of trying, but for lack of a skilled ball hawk. That’s Turgeon’s job to recruit someone. The better teams have one constant in college. They move the ball around. They make foul shots generally. They avoid fouls when possible. But they know what to do out there. I still see a team searching for its identity. Watch Syracuse or GTown and you’ll see liquid dynamite for the most part. This year Nova and UConn lost the drill. It’s something players have to know I guess. There’s only so much a coach can do when u get out there. Screaming won’t help.

by WhodunIt? on Jan 26, 2012 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

I don't get it

This team wasn’t going to beat Duke. They simply aren’t good enough yet.

I don’t get all the posts about poor officiating, blaming the coach and anything else you can think about.

This roster doesn’t have the shooting ability (aside from Stoglin) to rival Duke nor the inside physical presence and size.

You can only ride emotion for so long in a game.

This season is what we thought it was a .500 campaign until Turge can get some better players on the roster.

"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage

by Jergs on Jan 26, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Love this team...

They played better than I expected and despite the loss – this game will give them confidence. Puke is just too big, too strong, and too skilled for this team to beat – very soon we’ll be back at the top and playing them as the favorite!

by WherestheBison on Jan 26, 2012 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

Tough loss, but big picture...

Let’s think back to our expectations for this team at the beginning of the season. 7 scholarship players with Howard and Len out, big question marks in Pankey, Padgett, and Faust, and a new coaching staff. We played Duke tough right until the bitter end, which is more than I can see for some recent teams that had a full complement of players.

Hopefully some recruits were there to see Comcast rocking like it used to and to want to be part of that themselves.

by GPT on Jan 26, 2012 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

Sean Mosely shot

Did anyone notice Mosely was shooting the ball differently than he has the last 3 years? It was coming out quicker and at a different trajectory..The 1st few were going in but the last cpl were at the front rim.

by LargoD85 on Jan 26, 2012 10:12 AM EST reply actions  

didn't notice - looked mostly the same

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 26, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Looked like he might have been putting a higher arch on his shots

and he looked more comfortable (at least the first half). Even his misses looked better.

and lets go to Bentleys...

by johnnyrobs13 on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

The difference in the game was the experience of Duke's front line vs the inexperience of Len/Pankey/Padge...

Turgeon I thought made a good move not to give Duke the open 3-point shots and instead elected to play Mason Plumlee and Ryan Kelly one on one with Len, Pankey, and Padgett alternatively. Duke is (normally) such a good 3-point shooting team that this absolutely seems liek the correct call. In fact for the most part our defense on Duke’s guards were pretty good.

The problem there is that defensively Len and Pankey (Len moreso in this game where I noticed several times he got caught out of position) are still learning the defensive systems and an experienced and athletic front line like Duke can take advantage of them not knowing their positions or gambling to pick up fouls, make backdoor cuts, etc…… which kind of makes me wonder why we didn’t see more Weijs.

Duke’s front line isn’t that much more athletic, that much taller,…but right now they have a better court sense than our big men and that’s what killed us.

I also would like to see more Parker. He has really improved each game I see and think he should be stealing more minutes from Pe/Mosely/Faust….

"You know my style of play - I know it will be asked - my style of play is winning... " -Mark Turgeon, Maryland Basketball head coach

by TurtleShel716 on Jan 26, 2012 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

Pe

I for one though Pe’shon had a good game, and a great first half. He was the spark plug the entire 1st half. Can we remember that the core of this team is still sophmores and freshman??? The experience they got tonight will be invaluable down the road. Give me this Duke team next year at Comcast and we run away with it.

by terpskin on Jan 26, 2012 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

Mosely

In the first 3 ACC games, Mosely averaged 15 points on about 45% shooting. In the last three games (FL St, Temple, and Duke), he’s averaged 4 points on 19% shooting. Maybe the better teams have figured out that Stoglin can’t really be stopped, but neutralizing our secondary scorer/all utility glue guy on offense is the ticket to beating us. Just an observation, maybe just coincidence.

by Terpmenacestan on Jan 26, 2012 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

The help-side defense in the lane was very weak...

it almost looked like they didn’t even know what it is….

by Zol on Jan 26, 2012 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

This team played the best game it could've for most of the game

And it was real exciting to watch. Its a bit depressing that our best does not beat Duke’s mediocre, but this team simply doesn’t have a lot of talent, which we knew, and I’m ok with if we continue recruiting. But this game, above all others, makes me optimistic for the future. In the first half that offense did not just evolve around Stogs, everyone contributed and our guards mad more good drives than I can remember in game in a while.

A few interior stops and late shots hit and we would’ve beat a team that, on paper, we have NO BUSINESS, getting close to.

by bgsmith4 on Jan 26, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

Will everybody quit kissing Dukes ass? Seemed more like a mediocre Duke team that played mediocre and beat us.

We were able to give a good effort for a good part of the game but we clealy will need some parts of our teams identity to come together in order for us to take the next steps. It is what it is but atleast we do have potential to make some significant strides in the games coming up.

by terpsontop on Jan 26, 2012 6:24 PM EST reply actions  

duke needed time to adjust to the defense and offense we put on them

but duke is #6 in the nation right now. let’s not forget that. overrated or not.
the plumlees are experienced and huge. young grown men. pankey and padgett are power forwards. i would have like to have seen weijs on kelly, or parker on kelly. duke runs their system to near perfection and maximizes what it can get from less athletic players. the game was winnable and i applaud the effort and execution early on. if the terps can establish a 2nd go-to-guy and defensive stability. they played hard and didn’t have enough horses, or experience in execution in the end. freshman pankey with 8 points and 8 rebounds in 23 minutes?
love it.

by space_ on Jan 26, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

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