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Maryland Football Recruiting Enters the Stretch Run

Yellow mohawk? Awesome. Hopefully Randy agrees.

We are now less than two weeks away from Signing Day, that magical holiday in the South and parts of the Midwest. In Maryland's case, it's a bit more of a tepid event, but holds increasing importance: the fanbase's current growing acceptance of the staff is based almost entirely on their recruiting performance and potential, and so February 1 has become critical.

The Terrapins have been recruiting at a crazy rate ever since bringing Mike Locksley aboard in late December, and with the recent addition of Brian Stewart as defensive coordinator things should move even faster. It's now Stewart's role to try to sell Maryland's remaining defensive recruits on his scheme and NFL credentials, hopefully garnering a commitment or two in the process.

The big target, though, won't be influenced by Stewart. Stefon Diggs, the Good Counsel wide receiver and Rivals' #8 player in the country, is the truly big fish still conceivable for Maryland. Absolutely electric the ball, Diggs is the type of playmaker the current roster seems to be lacking, the type of guy who can bust a game open with one touch. He often gets compared to DeSean Jackson, and while his build is better than Jackson's at this stage, it's not a poor comparison.

Diggs is down to Auburn, USC, Cal, Florida, and Maryland, which is imposing competition to be sure. The good news is that with Tosh Lupoi having left Cal, there's one less competitor on the list. He just visited Auburn and had a subsequent in-home visit with Florida, and Rivals' Mike Farrell has said that those appear to be his top two schools at the moment. I'm not the type to overtly doubt a guy like Farrell, but ... well, those are the two schools who last had a chance to see him. I'd be much more worried if he just had an in-home with Locksley but was still raving over Auburn; as it is, there's still so much time to go in this one, and so many more looks Maryland will get with him, that it's far too early to call. Hey - statistically, there's like a 25% chance.

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The other big locals are Eddie Goldman and Ronald Darby, but both of those seem increasingly like pipe dreams. Darby has been adamant about his focus on FSU, Clemson, and LSU, while Goldman has also zeroed in on other alternatives. They'll keep fighting for both of them - what do they have to lose? - but once you're off a list, it's traditionally difficult to get back on, particularly with so little time left in the recruiting season. It happened with Diggs, but only thanks to Locksley; these changes came post-Locks, so it's unlikely we'll see them reversed.

No, the defensive recruits you should be monitoring are elsewhere. There's Korren Kirven, a defensive lineman from Lynchburg, Va., who'd be a important get for any number of reasons (like, uh, being a four-star top-200 recruit from out-of-state), but perhaps most significantly is a great fit for Maryland's new 3-4 look. They need to start landing the personnel for that immediately, and Kirven would be a great start: at 6-4 and 275 he's an ideal fit to man the weakside DE spot in the 3-4, or he could even bulk up some with that frame and end up on the inside (I'd much prefer him on the outside, but that's just me).

Kirven will be a massively difficult get for the Terrapins, as he's also considering Alabama, Tennessee, and Virginia Tech, with offers from all three. Alabama is likely falling off that list, since they lost Sal Sunseri and are still fighting for Eddie Goldman. Still, having to face Tennessee (against anyone) and Virginia Tech (against a Lynchburg kid) is a big uphill battle. His Rivals profile says he just visited CP earlier this week; we'll see if the Terrapins made up any ground there, as I'm guessing that he was the first recruit to talk to Brian Stewart about his scheme.

The other big defensive target remains D.J. Reader, and the North Carolina offensive guard/defensive tackle is simply massive: he was at 330 pounds last year and has since worked his way down to 306. That shows work ethic and willingness to improve, both of which are Edsall hallmarks, but I imagine the staff at Maryland will try to get him back up around 315 or so. He's a great fit for the 3-4 as a nose tackle, not a particularly easy position to recruit for, and in fact would probably be the heir apparent for the spot from the second he steps on campus.

Reader is a three way battle, with Clemson and UNC fighting it out with Maryland. I don't know how the staff changes at UNC really affected him, but his recruiter at Chapel Hill, Sam Pittman, wasn't retained and ended up at Tennessee, so I'd guess the Heels are a step behind. He's also looking to play baseball, which may or may not help Maryland: Clemson is a better program, but Erik Bakich is one of the best recruiters in the game. (If Bakich helps Edsall land a football recruit, give him a massive raise.) That would be a huge victory.

It doesn't look like there will be a huge push for any other prospects defensively. The only obvious target is Kenny Crawley, the four-star cornerback from H.D. Woodson in D.C. Crawley is a former Tennessee commit who split ways with the Vols shortly after Locksley was hired. That was very intriguing timing, and I've believed ever since that Maryland almost assuredly had to be in the drivers seat - Locksley's power is greatest among DC publics like HDW, and Crawley has insisted that his coach is handling his recruitment, which is a good sign for the Terrapins. He'd be a great late addition: his physical tools are without a doubt elite, and if Stewart, a longtime DBs coach, can mold him there's a chance Crawley becomes a shutdown #1 corner at this level going forward.

Offensively, things have really slowed since the commitments of Brown and Reid. Maryland is really focusing in on Diggs, and that seems to be one of their final stands here. They might also look to steal a current commitment, perhaps someone like DeOntay McManus who is now being considered a "soft commit" by most. Poaching commitments is a football recruiting tradition, after all, especially if the guy's been committed a long time, and that'll be another thing Maryland's staff will look to do. And, of course, they'll have to look after their own guys, particularly late-risers like Caleb Rowe, who probably got a host of offers after his string of strong performances in all-star games.

In terms of a timeline, I'd guess that most action and movement is done for the moment. Usually things will pick up a few days before Signing Day, with obviously the majority of commitments coming at the very end. But right now is when the work is being put in.

No matter how the class ends, it's miles better than it looked about two months ago, when things were extremely grim. That's an encouraging sign. Things could get even better in the 2013 class, which, while lacking perhaps the elite top-level talent in the state that the 2012 class had, looks extremely strong: 2013 rankings are starting to be pushed out by the recruiting services, with Scout giving four-star grades to locals Kendall Fuller, Dorian O'Daniel, E.J. Levenberry, and Derwin Gray; 247 went one farther, assigning early grades to prospects: Gray is at #16 nationally(!) and Levenberry is at #21, while Fuller, O'Daniel, Henry Poggi, Delando Johnson, Na'Ty Rodgers, and Kirk Garner all in their top 247. (See what they did there?) That's an impressive local crop.

After the season Maryland just went through, this is all about getting victories any way and anywhere they can. Even if they miss on Diggs and someone like Kirven, which is probably likely, the base is still there for a moderately impressive finish.

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Na'Ty Rodgers is in there top 247? lmao

if he gets an offer he’s going to Washington. We had the same elective class his freshman year and his dad played at Uwub.

by Maryland1206 on Jan 19, 2012 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

We always talked about College Football and he loves Washington

If we offer him im sure we’ll have a good shot though, He’s a really tall kid and could be a good lineman in the 3-4

by Maryland1206 on Jan 19, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Jalen Tabor

I am done following this kid. Someone else can update the group. Guy just tweeted that he wants to play in the SEC one day and Univ of Tenn here I come. So much for the stay at home movement. College football recruiting is more frustrating then bball. Last week was fun but this week is boring. …. although bball has been boring for like 6 months

by Charlotte NC Terp on Jan 19, 2012 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

but he also said, and i quote"lls"

he’s a fucking Tease, im still going to follow him but im not going to care about anything he says

by Maryland1206 on Jan 19, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

He does that a lot

Don’t worry. At the end of the day when you level what he has said about Maryland, and what he has said about Tenn Maryland>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tennessee. So he’ll say “I love Tenn” one day and have 3 weeks of nothing but praise for Maryland.

by oriolekid on Jan 19, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Wanting to play in the SEC = pay me some $$$ under the table.

I’m actually getting tired of hearing his name, it’s too far away. People should hold their fire with this kid for at least another year. I don’t think I could take talking about him for over 2 years, and still see him wind up at Bama, etc.

People should be posting…“WES BROWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!” because he is staying to rep the home state.

by 1 proud terp on Jan 19, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you!

Tabor goes off the deep end with enthusiasm for any recruiting reporter that calls him about any school. I’ve seen him say he’s a terrapin, and I’ve seen him list a top-five to some rivals site that doesn’t even mention Maryland. He’s just a kid. Let’s not be fanboys for a 15-year-old.

And, yes, I agree that Wes Brown should be getting all the love that Tabor is getting. There’s a kid who never really talked the talk, but when push came to shove he walked the walk, and that’s how you show love to Maryland. It doesn’t matter what you tweet or tell reporters. Huge, huge recruit.

by FlaTerp on Jan 19, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, Wes showed love to the Dancels and Locks, not the state in particular

What’s been attracting people to Tabor is that he’s been saying from day one that he wants to stay home and represent the DMV. I can’t think of one guy who came to Maryland and repped the area during his time here.

by Ben Broman on Jan 19, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That said, yes, people do need to calm down about the "Jalen Tabor!" thing

It’s apropos when the thing is actually about Jalen Tabor, and I admit I laughed when I saw “Jalen Tabor’s girlfriend!” But it’s getting played out. Especially because there’s at least a 50% shot he doesn’t come here.

by Ben Broman on Jan 19, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for the props ben!

I was the Jalen Tabor’s Girlfriend one

by mdterps150 on Jan 19, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

WES BROWN!!!

Up to 188 in the Rivals 250… Well deserved Wes. Can’t wait to see you on the field for the Terps!

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-2868

by amarshall on Jan 20, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Were your allegations true, the IRS

would pounce if recipients didn’t pay income tax on under-table payments. If you have
proof you can contact the IRS and get a “snitch” fee.

by nonstopjoe on Jan 19, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you saying that no programs/boosters throw dirty money and benefits under the table?

How’s the weather in fantasy land? The IRS can’t pounce on what it doesn’t know about.

by 1 proud terp on Jan 19, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Be good, LeftCoast, be good, be...

…Ah LeeCorso it! Shellmet fauxhawk = one year suspension from Edsall minimum! There. I said it. We now resume our regularly scheduled Kumbiya programming already in progress.

by LeftCoastTerp on Jan 19, 2012 5:09 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions   1 recs

+1 for the Lee Corso comment

I was watching when he did that, it was hilarious. And then his subsequent apology statement…ha

by djcarv2005 on Jan 20, 2012 7:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Locks

If we can land a few more kids and nudge into a top 25 class, that would be unbelievable considering where we came from.

Locks is getting paid a lot but he seems to be worth every penny. As long as he keeps his insane clown locksley act under wraps we are good.

by Terpentine on Jan 19, 2012 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

so apparently on espn’s 2012 draft page where it lists the kids by school it not only does it have Kenny Tate on there but it lists him as an outside linebacker.

by SteelTerp42 on Jan 19, 2012 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

Tate

I talked to an assistant coach from Tampa Bay a year ago and he said they considered him a OLB not a safety. They did not think he had the coverage skills necessary to be a safety.

by cornturtle on Jan 19, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Dvario Montgomery?

I thought i saw a fanpost about him and how he was reconsidering maryland. Does anyone know if we still are?

by terpsfinish on Jan 19, 2012 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

Future local names to watch for

Yannick Ngakoue- 6’2 235/ATH- 2013
Derwin gray- 6’5 255/OL- 2013
Jonathan Allen- 6’3 230/DE-2013
Paul Harris- 6’4 190/WR- 2013
Tre Hall- 6’1 230/RB- 2013
Darez Diggs- 6’0 185/WR-2013
DeAndre’ Lane- 5’8 170/RB-2013

by fatchris on Jan 19, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

The first guy is definitely quite the name.

I’m guessing our best shot at an elite local is going to be with Gray or Rodgers – I’d love to land both, BTW, and get a crazy good base on the OL – but I’d kill to have Allen, he’d be so good as a 3-4 WILL. I’m gonna flip if he goes to NC State. I can understand if we lose a guy like this to Oklahoma or Alabama or even VT, but State? Heads should roll over that.

by Ben Broman on Jan 19, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yannick Ngakoue

He plays at Archbishop Carroll and his coach compares him to former AC player Jeremiah Attaochu but says JA was 191 at the point YN is now. I watched video and he might be that stand up DE that we need for our 3-4. His HS team actually runs the 3-4 a little. You should check him out Ben.

And Derwin Gray is improving his grades drastically and recently picked up offers from NEB and Ohio St. He had to sit out the entire season with the exception of one game because he was academically ineligible.

This is all from WaPo of course.

by fatchris on Jan 19, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

kids that aren't local but keep an eye on is David Williams, Adam Breneman, and Will Fuller

The reason I said these 3 is because Edsall and Guttuso has done a great job of gettin in good with these guys early. All of them have a good bit of interest the Terps. Breneman will probably end up as the #1 TE in the nation on at least 1 if not all the recruiting sites. UMD is one of his early offers and has been to campus about 5 times, 1 time for a camp another for an unofficial visit and 3 times for a game. He is the headliner of the bunch and will be a hard pull, offers through the roof. Haha, why am I replying this to Ben he already has it on the 2013 football targets board. As well as Williams, my bad.

Will Fuller though is a little more unknown but this kid is GOOD. Like Williams he’s from Philly and would be a nice steal from PA. He has video on YouTube and IMO he is a playmaker.

by fatchris on Jan 19, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet, possible two-fer?

How’s his speed compared to Stefon?

by 1 proud terp on Jan 19, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad thing is

Stefon has been taking him on a lot of his recruiting visits. If he makes it big time than he’ll remember what he liked about each visit and make it even harder to get him.

by oriolekid on Jan 19, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Also look out for

Jalen Christian WR/CB- 2015- Already has a South Carolina offer.

Orlando Brown Jr. OT- 2015- Son of the late and great Orlando Brown who spent many seasons as a good Ravens OT. Oh and Jr. is a 6’7’’ 350 lb freshman who has OT talent in his blood

Tavon Spears RB-2014- He is a 5’10’’ back with great speed.

by oriolekid on Jan 19, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

One more

This guy has the potential to be top 20 nationally if you go by size and raw talent.

Freshman WR Meechie Johnson 6’2’’ 200 lbs already has a college frame and flat out dominated for Annapolis Area Christian School and already has a Terps offer(along with others). By the time he is a senior he could easily be 6’5’’

by oriolekid on Jan 19, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

omg we're already recruiting 2015....

OH, and, holy hell a 6’7" 350lb freshman?!?!

by djcarv2005 on Jan 20, 2012 7:16 AM EST up reply actions  

And another...

Sophomore Justin Falcinelli from Middletown High in Frederick County (and my alma mater). He’s already 6’5", 290 pounds and started at offensive tackle for the 2A state champs. Edsall visited there about 2 weeks ago.

by Terps03 on Jan 19, 2012 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

F*ck Middletown

Kid sucks. Okay just kidding I’m from Walkersville. Congrats on states.

by amaymon on Jan 20, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

no, your right...

F_ck the knights.. Go Roaders!!!

by Terp2B on Jan 20, 2012 5:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Roaders, Right.....

Now there’s a perennial juggernaut in the world of athletics…..NOT…hills, whores and liquor stores, now THAT’S Brunswick.

by Terps03 on Jan 20, 2012 7:13 AM EST up reply actions  

And I'm from Hagerstown...

…anxious to see him play…next year.

by curterp on Jan 20, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Middletown, McDonough(Na'Ty Rodgers) beat them 2 years ago in the state finals.

I couldnt go to the game but on TV all they talked about was how big this Freshman for Middletown was.

by Maryland1206 on Jan 20, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Adam Breneman interview from some Michigan blog called,"MGOBLOG", by some guy named Ace. This was done on 1/6/12, so its recent and not from 2 years ago.

Ace: In terms of your recruitment, I know you’ve got offers from, well, just about everywhere right now. I won’t make you run through all of them, but what schools are contacting you the most right now, and who’s standing out to you?

Adam: I don’t really have a top school list yet. Some of the schools that I think pretty highly of right now would be UMD, UVA, Miami, Rutgers, Mich St, S.Carolina, ND, and Bama, just some of the ones that I’ve been in pretty constant contact with, and I’ve developed some pretty good relationships with those coaches.It’s still very early in the process for me, I’m nowhere close to narrowing anything down yet, but those are some schools that have gotten off to a good start. There are quite a few places, and I don’t have a timetable at all but, but these are some of the schools that have definitely gotten off to a great start.

Ace: In terms of the offseason for you right now, do you have any idea, in terms of junior days and camps, places you’d like to visit before senior season?

Adam: Nothing is scheduled at all yet, nothing finalized. I know that I’ll be going to UMD for a basketball game and I’ll definitely be visiting Miami- I haven’t visited there yet, so I’ll be going to Miami for a visit with my family. I’m about 95% sure I’ll be coming up to Michigan, too. I don’t know if I’ll be doing junior day or just a nomal visit, but I’ll be up there. Whether its in Feb. or in the spring I don’t know yet, but we’ll definitey be out there.

Ace: You said you don’t have a timetable or anything right now, but in terms of just what you’re looking for in a school, what are the ideal traits that you’re looking for when it comes down to picking a school?

Adam: A big thing for me is the kind of offense that I’d be playing in. Actually, it’s not so much the kind of offense, but how I’ll fit into the offense. I love catching the ball, love having the football in my hands, and I want to go to a school that’s going to allow me to do that and allow me to be a playmaker from the TE position, so I definitely want to play for a coach that has a history of TE’s and has a history of throwing the TE the ball. Another thing is academics. Academics are a big part of my life-I carry a 3.9 GPA, so I take academics very seriously and I want to go to a place that’s going to prepare me for life after football. Third of all, definitely the relationship that I have with the coaching staff- I’m going to be spending a lot of time with those guys, and if we don’t get along it’s going to be a long four years. That’s definitely important, and just a place that fit me best athletically, spiritually, and academically, just having everything fit me in all three of those areas, thats where I’ll wind up.

GOOD NIGHT, GOTERPS!!!

by fatchris on Jan 20, 2012 2:02 AM EST reply actions  

Locks could sell Vernon Davis

He was the lead recruiter on hm if I remember right?

by djcarv2005 on Jan 20, 2012 7:18 AM EST up reply actions  

final recruiting needs

Diggs maybe our biggest target but two of the three DT’s are our biggest needs. They along with either Darby or Crowley and the Defense would be set with one of the best D side recruiting classes we have ever put together. And remember it starts with the defense if you want to be big time winners. Don’t get me wrong Diggs has Austin type qualities with the ball in his hands and would be truly excitement personified, but the top priorities need to be the DT’s.

by ngaumfan on Jan 20, 2012 7:43 AM EST reply actions  

This, for the DTs

I’m not sure you classify it has the best defensive class put together for MD (no, i haven’t done the research, but the defensive class isn’t that great), but landing Kirven and Reader would make the 3-4 transition much easier in two years if not next.

by djcarv2005 on Jan 20, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Let’s see you have 2-3 very good LB’s, 2-3 very good DB’s a couple of pretty good DE’s ( I’m also counting Jefferson here) and if you add two good DT’s that would shape up as a pretty good defensive group to build upon the future. Look CB Alvin Hill was not even rated until after he made first team 5A GA and Houston, Thompson, Riddle and Petty have huge upsides;so I not sure where you are basing your position on. Let’s see in three years where this group is. How many people would have thought Robinson and Vellano would be as good as they have turned out to be (though I think Robinson is more OLB than safety). Robinson and Tate is the position swap i would like to see.

by ngaumfan on Jan 20, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

another

There’s a DB from Brooklyn named Morgan who I hadn’t noticed before but ESPN has him listing Maryland in an Insider story today about the top available guys heading into NSD. He’s listed as having 4.4 speed on rivals, who has him as a 3-star. Seems like he could be a solid late add to the secondary assuming we’re out of the game for Darby. They say he’s visiting UConn and that’s about it so far.

by FlaTerp on Jan 20, 2012 11:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yellow Hair?

Careful with the yellow hair…its one of the proven ways to ensure you ride the bench at UMD

by TerpfanMA on Jan 20, 2012 8:59 AM EST reply actions  

Well.... Your 7 comments that are still posted (Ben had to delete some pure garbage)

AND…drum roll please – you’re 7 for 7 on negative, unsupported garbage. Or 0 for 7 on any type of significant contribution to TT.

Ben had to kill some of your stuff. Please – only post this “stuff” on WaPo. It’s old already.

Lighten up a bit, be fair minded, and you may actually find yourself with one thing good to say. By no means am I a blind supporter of everything Terps. This board has posters that mostly consist of a reasoned opinion, interjected with humor and pure passion at times. If your only passion is blind, dry hating on our squads, save it for your dog at home.

I was on the lookout for Kirven this past week during his visit, but didn’t see him on campus. Some of the recruits and quite a few commits are into academics, with at least two commits going into the Smith School and Clark Engrg school, respectively. That is terrific.

On a side note, I had a friend send over some gifts to various people in the Athl Dept over the holidays. RE wrote back with a handwritten thank you note. I thought that was solid of him to take a moment to thank him. Good stuff.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 20, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think it's fair criticism

Edsall is on the record saying he doesn’t like earrings, tattoos or non-conservative hairstyles. Diggs is a flashy kid. I would say it’s not bashing anybody to suggest that’s a potential issue in our recruitment of Diggs.

I believe Edsall’s views on personal appearance are out of touch with young society and harmful toward his efforts to build a truly successful college football program. Edsall needs to adjust to the waters he’s swimming in – or else go work at West Point or Annapolis.

by FlaTerp on Jan 20, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Missing the point.

The reason bball is pissed is because this guy ONLY posts negative comments about MD sports. We all have no problem with objective criticism(I agree with your opinion on Edsall’s appearance code, btw). The problem is when someone ONLY posts negatives, it becomes rather trollish, in a firegary sort of way. Wapo boards and IMS are filled with that, bball is trying to keep the quality of experience here as friendly and amicable as it is now.

by 1 proud terp on Jan 20, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with the appearance code opinion too

It’s just grating – most of us will balance good or bad feelings with substance. We all know what transpired last season. It was not pleasant by most accounts (except I had an absolute blast at the Miami game :)

Coach Edsall took a somewhat legitimite pounding on all sites. I think the page has been turned. KA and RE definitely are attempting to right the ship – let’s see where it goes. I like its direction so far this new year. Yes, thankfully a new season is on the horizon. You’re interpretation was correct Proud one – thx

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Jan 20, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Give it a rest bball

it was a very legitimate comment based on humor and what happened to DJ Adams….If you cant handle some humor poked at our football program then move on…wasnt aware this was only supposed to be an echo chamber of pro football speak…and for substance? Yeah, your post above about recruiting JTs girlfriend? very insightful

by TerpfanMA on Jan 21, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Yuri Wright

You guys see Yuri Wright from NJ was expelled for graphic postings on twitter? Might have cost him a scholarship somewhere.

link

Interesting how twitter, facebook, and the like are changing the game. I still don’t know if it’s a good idea for adult fans to be in direct contact with these kids. Some of the retweets I’ve seen are more negative than political advertisements, putting down other schools’ fans and towns rather than touting the positives of their own school. I do enjoy hearing the occasional piece of useful info, though.

by RSVRTERP on Jan 20, 2012 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

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