Maryland Football Closes in on Fall Practice: Storylines to Watch
Maryland football's fall practice starts in a matter of days: August 9. Who knew, right? Randy Edsall, for one; he took to the podium yesterday to address the media about where the Terrapins stand heading into the fall. Unfortunately, nothing particularly interesting was said, past that Pete DeSouza has been cleared for contact.
But still: fall practice! This is a holiday in the states of Florida, Texas, and Alabama, I'm pretty sure. We're only about a month away from real football season, and one thing I've learned over the year: Maryland may not be a football school, but football is a hell of a lot better than no sports.
So get excited, at least a little bit. And check out the things we'll be watching for when practice kicks off, courtesy of the Marines (hence the ad at the bottom of the page).
Who steps up at wide receiver? One of the reasons Danny O'Brien was so successful last year was that he was throwing to Torrey Smith and, perhaps to a slightly lesser extent, Adrian Cannon. Both are in the NFL now, and O'Brien's top targets are now neither particularly proven nor experienced. Case in point: no returning WR had more than 16 receptions last season.
Seniors Ronnie Tyler and Quintin McCree are the most experienced and the favorites to start, but neither played in the Military Bowl last year due to academics, which isn't a quick way to endear yourself to Edsall. Tyler is more well-known for his occasionally sensational grabs than his consistency; he's dropped a few easy ones over the years, which isn't traditional go-to material. And McCree has 21 career receptions to his name over the past three years.
Past that, there's a host of talent and a dearth of experience. Kevin Dorsey and Kerry Boykins, both juniors, were four-stars coming out of HS and were simply unfortunate enough to be stuck behind Smith their first three years. Adrian Coxson is another option; again a former four-star, he transferred over from Florida and will be a redshirt freshman.
With someone as talented as O'Brien throwing the ball, the wide receivers don't need to do too much work on their own (think: the Tom Brady Effect). But a poor WR corps could easily derail an otherwise promising passing game. With so little experience at the position, I'm guessing it'll be one of the most-watched spots in fall ball.
Where does Maryland draw offensive line depth from? Justin Gilbert, a starter at tackle, is out until October, and Justin Lewis, expected to push to start at guard, left the program in the fall. That left Maryland particularly thin up front, going barely two deep at some positions.
The potential return of Pete DeSouza, who has been cleared for full-contact, could be a boon, but it'd be foolish to rely much on someone who is returning from a major injury and hasn't played football in months. I'm expecting heavy reliance on true freshmen and players that have, up till now, existed under the radar, like Jake Wheeler and Cody Blue - both of which Edsall mentioned in his press conference - and DeOnte Arnett, who could push for a starting spot.
What shape is the secondary in? Maryland's passing defense was so-so last year. Having two star safeties over the top in Antwine Perez and Kenny Tate kept it from being a lot worse. Both of the safeties are gone now - Perez to graduation, Tate to linebacker - and are being replaced with Eric Franklin and Matt Robinson, two big linebacker-y types. That means much of the onus falls on Cameron Chism, Trenton Hughes, and Dexter McDougle to perform better on an island than they did last year.
Chism and Hughes are both seniors, and have had past successes. But Chism had struggles last year, while McDougle failed to live up to his out-of-HS hype. A strong fall would go a long way to calming down me (and other fans) about the passing game.
How's the kicking game looking? Nick Ferrara had a fantastic freshman year, handling both kicking and punting duties with aplomb. But then he had struggles his sophomore year, injuring his groin and missing the first two games. Travis Baltz took over the PK spot in addition to punter, and never released it. Ferrara will now be expected to kick and could potentially be asked to punt as well. Sophomore walk-on Michael Tart is also competing in that area, as is true freshman (on scholarship) Nathan Renfro. Kicking is usually "figured out" in fall practice, so this is no different, but I'm interested to see what direction things take.
The front four is made up of Joe Vellano, David Mackall, and ... who else? Right now, Andre Monroe and Clarence Murphy, if you listen to the depth chart. Both are redshirt freshmen; neither was considered a potential four-year starter out of high school. It's not as though Maryland doesn't have options here; Monroe is above junior A.J. Francis, who has started since his freshman season, and Bradley Johnson and Isaiah Ross have seen time at DE in the past.
In his press conference, Edsall mentioned that some players "up front" who had been starters in the past weren't starters now, and he wanted to see how they responded. I'm assuming Francis falls into that category, and potential Johnson or Ross as well. They certainly have plenty of time to regain their spots, and I definitely expect Francis to - he has too much talent and experience not to.
How does the team respond to a new type of coach? Edsall is a ... controversial ... guy. Disciplinarian, Coughlin-esque, blah blah blah, you know all the words that've been used to describe him. In fact, given the sponsor of this post, "drill instructor" might be the best phrase. That style can work, but the players he's coaching right now didn't sign up for that. They signed up for Ralph Friedgen, who might not've been particularly likable either but certainly was more relaxed.
So, the big question: can Edsall's tougher new rules surrounding everything from being late to practice (obvious and good rule) to no names on the jerseys (um ... okay...) to restrictions on hats (uh, what?) win over the team, or will they stifle morale? Once Edsall gets more of his own players in the program, this should become less and less of a problem, but right now he's a new thing coaching players who aren't "his" - the end result could be good, or it could be really bad. We'll find out.
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"Once Edsall gets more of his own players in the program, this should become less and less of a program"
oh, the subconscious slips we make
nothing the edit button cannot fix
good pre-practice summary – thx
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
For the record, I think Edsall will do just fine
But looking over that new roster, Ralph left him with a nice collection of talent to work with over the next couple years
I'm definitely nit-picking but....
In the Marine Corps they’re called Drill Instructors. Figured I’d set that straight since I had all those Marines glaring at me while I read the article.
Doubt, indulged and cherished, is in danger of becoming denial; but if honest, and bent on thorough investigation, it may soon lead to full establishment of the truth.
-Ambrose Bierce
Let's Get it On
I’m torn between not wanting summer to end and my eagerness to head to CP for the Miami game.
Edsall cant get any support around here
Let the man coach at least one game before crucifying him for his rules and doing things his way. Im sorry was he supposed to come in here and do things Mike Leach’s way? Or Friedgen’s way? Got to let the man be himself and then we can judge him on the results. At least I can say I was on board from the start while the rest of you guys are jumping on the bandwagon when we start the season 4-0.
PS- If we keep treating our football program like a second tier sport, it will stay that way. But all that being said LETS GOOOOOOOOO Maryland! Labor day cant come soon enough.
You're not just a coach during the season
and he has decidedly failed the offseason. If he wins and keeps on winning, then it doesn’t matter but he has created very little good will so far. That’s his fault not ours.
Doubt, indulged and cherished, is in danger of becoming denial; but if honest, and bent on thorough investigation, it may soon lead to full establishment of the truth.
-Ambrose Bierce
There is definitely a bias against maryland football
Dont get me wrong I love the basketball team as much as the football team but if Turgeon was a disciplinarian and held student-athletes to a higher standard the way Edsall is he’d have a building on campus named after him. And it just pisses me off that the football team doesnt have anywhere near the same support around here as the basketball team does. Football is America’s sport, why cant we get behind an up and coming program? Just had to blow off some steam. And Edsall isnt failing the offseason- he’s taken this program a step forward even though he started behind the ball by getting hired less than 8 months ago.
That's just silly
Edsall’s been making decisions that people disagree with while not recruiting particularly well or doing anything, really, to get anyone excited except for donors and frats. Turgeon’s come in and done everything anybody could ask and has, in a much shorter span of time, made us relevant in recruiting and given us a lot to look forward to. Stop whining about the fans for having opinions and start holding the coach accountable. If he’s got you excited about Maryland football then that’s awesome but I’m not. I really do hope he shows me something down the road because he’s got my team’s success in his hands but I’m not going to pretend that I’m optimistic when I’ve found no reason to be. That being said, I’ll still be out there cheering as loud as I can and hoping that he ends up being the best coach in the country.
Doubt, indulged and cherished, is in danger of becoming denial; but if honest, and bent on thorough investigation, it may soon lead to full establishment of the truth.
-Ambrose Bierce
Ok I can agree with most of what you said
but your basketball bias has shined through again. Turgeon has done everything anybody could ask for? I love the man but I didnt ask him to lose Justin Anderson, Sterling Gibbs, Martin Bruenig or Hawk. Those are 4 players that I wouldve loved to hold on to. Fortunately for him, losing Hawk and Gibbs might end up being a good thing scholarship wise if we can pull the recruiting coup that we expect in 2012 and 2013. But then again, those are just expectations. There is no way Turgeon has done a better job than Edsall YET. Obviously, if he gets Cleare, the Harrisons, McGary, etc. then I will kiss the ground he walks on, but until then- he’s proven less than Edsall.
neither one has proven anything yet
but there’s a reason there’s so much more optimism in basketball. Turgeon didn’t lose Sterling Gibbs and Martin Breunig, he never wanted them. Justin Anderson wouldn’t even talk to the man but, admittedly, that’s almost certainly because of Turgeon’s assistant choices. Turgeon had zero to do with Hawk staying or leaving, I think we can all agree on that.
On Anderson… I was never sold on him (and I promise it’s not just sour grapes). Nobody’s ever said that he’s short on potential but he just wreaks of the type of player that will never reach it. Honestly, I’d rather have him than not but I’d much rather have the calibre of talent that most expect Hill to pull in so Turge gets a pass from me there. You said it yourself, “if we can pull the recruiting coup that we expect in 2012 and 2013” and yeah those are just expectations but isn’t that what optimism is? What reason has Edsall given us to expect anything more than maybe being able to win above the team’s talent level with players only marginally better than he got at UConn?
Look at it this way… I see Mike Brey as the basketball equivalent of Randy Edsall. Boring, underwhelming, not an impact hire. At the same time, if we had hired Mike Brey and he walked onto campus and kept Bino, hired Hill and pulled in another above average coach/recruiter and then proceeded to create all sorts of buzz on the recruiting trail I’d be just as happy as I am right now with Turgeon. I’m also pretty sure that if Edsall had hired half-decent assistants and given me something to get excited about recruiting-wise he could go and shave all the football players’ hair, laser-remove all their tattoos, marched them in formation around campus and any other asinine thing he thinks might be “team-building” and I’d still be thrilled with him so far. His failures so far are his as a coach, not mine as a fan. Good thing he can easily redeem himself by winning games.
Doubt, indulged and cherished, is in danger of becoming denial; but if honest, and bent on thorough investigation, it may soon lead to full establishment of the truth.
-Ambrose Bierce
ways turge has done a better job than edsall
1) He hired one of the best recruiters in the country as an assistant coach, instead of promoting someone to DC who couldn’t hack it in that position at a worse school.
2) He’s gotten a huge number of 4 and 5 star guys buzzing about the program (how many guys on that level are talking about football?)
3) He’s gotten us back in the local recruiting picture in a way we never were under Gary. Malone and others have warmed up to him, whereas Edsall has apparently alienated DeMatha and possibly others.
I’d say Turge has done a lot more in his 2+ months to help the program than Edsall has done in 8.
Well
1) Greg Gattuso – arguably one of the best recruiters in PA/ lee hull, Tom bratton – pretty solid in MD, NC, VA, GA
2) Stefon diggs/5*- Eddie Goldman/5*- Noah spence/5* – daysean rippy/4* – dj reader/4*- Devin fuller/4* – mike madaras/4* – nick brigham/4*- aj Liddell / 3* – Brock dean/3*
3) I believe Ben said it best, if there was a big program we could have a weak relationship with, I’d pick dematha. Don’t get me wrong it will hurt , but not as bad as a bad relationship with say GC, Gilman( dematha’s old coach is coaching now I believe) Bishop McDevitt ( seems likely pipeline is developing)
Turge is working hard , but lets not forget it is a hell of alot easier to sell MD bball than MD football. Edsall isn’t getting the credit he deserves but is quietly improving the football program without alot of support. I also don’t see how people can sit and say that there isn’t an upswing in recruiting. Recruiting isn’t just commits, the guy landed two 4* and a 3* without coaching one single game. How is that not an upgrade over fridge, who most of his bigger recruits transferred to MD or MD was a 2nd, 3rd choice. People should just calm down and wait to see the progress before judgement. Go Terps!
by fatchris on Aug 5, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Also
- Noah Spence will reportedly announce his top 7 on Monday, MD most likely make the cut with Penn st , Miami , and maybe Florida.
- 2013 DL Kenny bigelow has a Terps offer. At 6’3 270 lbs he goes to the same HS as MD ’11 ol commit Andrew zeller. Has offers from auburn, Illinois , uconn, etc
- ‘13 db jarrett Ross ( Brandon ross’ little bro) was offered by edsall and staff. He he reportedly has a sub 4.4 40 time.
- MD ‘12 commit Avery Thompson was said to have ran a 4.36 at the Best of the 757 Combine. Check recruit757.com for the article, that’s incredible speed for a 6’2 205lbs kid if true.
The most (potentially only) important part: "lets not forget it is a hell of alot easier to sell MD bball than MD football"
If there’s any argument I truly respect about the Edsall / Turgeon debate, it’s that one.
The other points all have counters. Gattuso is a great recruiter. Bratton is average. Hull is unproven. When he has like 10 spots to fill, 1 great and two good recruiters isn’t a great ratio. LJ Sr. and Locksley are the football equivalents to Dalonte Hill. Neither got a sniff.
And while Diggs’ coach said his mom likes MD: maybe I’ve missed it, but Goldman, Spence, Rippy, and everyone else have been pretty quiet about the MD love (with the obvious exception of the commitments). MD has a good chance with Spence, but as for the rest, I’m not so sure (again, except the commitments.) Saying “Maryland is recruiting me hardest, I really like coach Bino” isn’t the same as “His mom really likes them.” Of course, MD could land Diggs or Spence and not McGary, but one is obviously more excitable than the other at this stage of the game.
As for DeMatha, yeah, if I had to pick one, but I’m not really sure why I have to pick one. (It’s also not just DM).
But it’s impossible to argue against it being easier to sell basketball than football, and that could undo all the others, really. I do think that’s actually more of an argument not to hire an Edsall type – a Leach-type would definitely generate the excitement that Edsall couldn’t – and it’s also an argument for Edsall to take a Todd Graham/Pat Chambers approach – go out on campus, be seen, be fun, be charismatic, etc. He hasn’t won me over with his actions so far like he could’ve. But he’s certainly working with less than Turgeon. I personally think he could be doing more regardless, but we all know it isn’t his style.
Ben Zen
good follow up to fatchris.
“and it’s also an argument for Edsall to take a Todd Graham/Pat Chambers approach – go out on campus, be seen, be fun, be charismatic, etc. He hasn’t won me over with his actions so far like he could’ve.”
>>>This is big – if the student body went home before summer with a little more hope for next season, many casual student fans might be fully on board. It remains to be seen if it’s the case.
But he’s certainly working with less than Turgeon. I personally think he could be doing more regardless, but we all know it isn’t his style.
>>>Then RE’s style better be winning … I prefer the Public Relations hype first …then start selling hope with recruiting…then sell winning
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
Coach and the players will earn good will
on the field…they are going to surprise many (not most of us). The pollsters will again eat their poll sheets.
They will have to Take a Sheet every day…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EquEeR9f6Qc
Friday humor revisited
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
He's gonna be a winner
Let the man work. The program is in good hands with this guy. He and the staff were at Looney’s in Maple Lawn last night and spent a lot of time talking about doing things the right way. I’m drinking the kool-aid he’s serving. I specifically asked him face to face about the recent “he hasn’t been to DeMatha” story. He said it was crap and the Wash ComPost will never get another “scoop” from him since they refused to retract a story that was simply not true.
by longerthanu on Aug 5, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
My only concern
Is that those optimistic about Edsall and the football program point to Edsall’s speeches and talking points. We aren’t pointing to improved recruiting, or an increased buzz surrounding the program, like we are with basketball.
Obviously, it is going to be harder to land top recruits in football than basketball—and comparing the two is somewhat unfair. But the broader point stands—those that are fully behind Edsall are pretty much fully behind him because they like his talking points, not for any substantive purpose.
Recruiting results are mixed, at best. I can’t seem to remember anyone that was enthused about his assistant coach hires. Not a whole lot to go by, but people are pretty justified in being skeptical at this point, I’d say.
People that are fully behind Edsall are behind him because he is our Head Coach and we are fans.
Not one game has been played yet, and some people are acting like he’s a failure. I will let the results on the field speak for themselves. The man took an irrelevant program to a BCS game…umm I think dude can coach. Criticism is fine if warranted, but jeez let him get a few games under his belt before you all start acting like the sky is falling.
Speaking of the Marines theme on this post…there is a movie from the 80’s called “Heart Break Ridge”, where Clint Eastwood takes a disorderly, rag tag band of Marines(Mario Van Peebles, etc.) whips them into shape as a cohesive unit, and gets deployed into combat on Grenada where they gloriously rescues some hot co-ed Med. School chicks and save the day….Bottom line: Edsall is a dead ringer for Clint “Gunney” Eastwood. The Few, The Proud….
Heart Break Ridge is awesome, no doubt
But I think you are trying to “argue from the extreme” here.
“People are acting like he’s a failure.” I think that overexaggerates the criticism. Most of the criticism is carefully worded, including the disclaimer that “it is too early” and “time will tell.”
And the “people that are fully behind Edsall are behind him because he is our Head Coach and we are fans” point is just so played out it is borderline ridiculous. Outside of the firegary types, no one is even close to hoping that our coach or team fails. Everyone wants the Terps to be successful. It doesn’t mean we can’t speculate as to the likelihood of that happening based on the (albeit limited) evidence in front of us.
Being a fan doesn’t mean you can’t be critical. And I would suggest that most people are more “skeptical” than “critical” at this point. I’m no less of a fan than you just because I question whether our program is headed in the right direction—especially when the only opposing viewpoints are based on talking points and blind loyalty.
If we can't criticize our leaders then we're no better than communist china
or worse…. packpride (shudder)
Doubt, indulged and cherished, is in danger of becoming denial; but if honest, and bent on thorough investigation, it may soon lead to full establishment of the truth.
-Ambrose Bierce
Heart Break Ridge...Next to "Every Which Way But Loose", Eastwood's finest work ahahaha.
Anyway, I did say “criticism is fine, if warranted”, so I’m not a blind Edsall robot(…yet, give me another 5 mins). Of course I know all fans(non-trolls) want only the best for the team. I’m just saying that in my opinion, it’s way too early to be negative about the football program and the direction Edsall is going, basically because he hasn’t coached a single snap yet. You didn’t address my point that he took Uconn to the big time, which is pretty substantial evidence that he has decent coaching chops, imo.
I get that many of you are still pissed that Leach didn’t get the job, I was actually hoping he would too. I also thought Fridge should have been allowed to finish out his contract, being the COY and everything. But it is what it is, and Randy is the new skipper. You may have doubts, and that’s fine. It’s understandable because he obviously has a “different” style and demeanor than we’re used to. But as a fan(sorry, man) I think we owe him the benefit of the doubt, at least until he proves us wrong and makes me look like a homer fool.
Also, I think a lot of this has to do with it being a dead period in sports, and people need to have something to bitch about until the games begin. Once they take the field on Labor, I totally expect the optimism of fandom to pour out on these posts.
…and if you disagree with me then you’re a terrorist.
That's fair
I did do a pretty detailed analysis in a fanpost back in January that explained my reluctance to hop on the “UConn to the BCS” bandwagon. It involved a strength of schedule breakdown and UConn’s success against BCS and non-BCS teams. It basically found that UConn beat a ton of patsies and lost to the legitimate programs. And that didn’t even take into account the fact that Big East teams make up the bulk of their BCS opponents.
It isn’t to say his record isn’t impressive, I’m just not as enamored with it as other folks. His UConn teams would have basically been on par with Maryland the last 5 or 6 years.
I guess it just comes down to the “benefit of the doubt” thing—I’ve always been the kind of person that makes people earn my admiration—and until they do, I’m skeptical. Regardless, he will have a chance, and I’m hoping he capitalizes.
by bshock on Aug 5, 2011 9:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fair enough.
Ultimately it’s up to Edsall to sink or swim. I totally agree that admiration is earned, not just given. I would just ask that you give him the chance to earn it, with an open mind. If we have the kind of year that we’re all hoping for, I’m sure that won’t be a problem.
by 1 proud terp on Aug 5, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean
I have no personal problem with Edsall—he has 100% of my support.
I stand by my view that, even though he is a good coach, it was a poor hire (from the perspective of Dec. 2010). I also remain skeptical that Edsall can lead us to the next level (based on his limited track record at Maryland, and his track record at UConn).
But at this point, it is all conjecture and prediction. Just as some predict that he will be a winner, and the program is in good hands (see longerthanu’s post above), others can question whether those predictions are true. Doing the latter does not mean you have a rooting interest having your predictions come true, it just means you detached your subjective desires from your objective observations.
Mainly, I just got my feathers ruffled for two related reasons: 1) the optimists, basing their predictions on talking points, dismiss the “pessimists,” basing their views on more tangible things; and 2) the “not a fan if you don’t blindly support the coach” theme.
bshock
you’re a “sober” fan – totally makes sense. The feeling out process is not complete yet. But when the rubber hits the road Sept 5th, we will begin to observe (and hopefully enjoy) what we have as a coach and team.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
Yea
And trust me—though I’m not “sold”—I think there’s a pretty good chance that Edsall is succesful—I have no doubts that he can coach.
Regardless, I am absolutely dying for Labor Day weekend—tickets to the South Carolina game on Saturday, then the Terps on TV on Monday.
hard core
pulling two Labor Day weekend? Impressive. The only labor you’ll be doing is eating, drinking and cheering – enjoy!
I will be there Monday – trying to confirm tent arrangements with friend
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Aug 6, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
REEEECCCOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNN
(I was a Recon Marine if you haven’t guessed. That movie makes us look terrible. Entertaining though.)
Doubt, indulged and cherished, is in danger of becoming denial; but if honest, and bent on thorough investigation, it may soon lead to full establishment of the truth.
-Ambrose Bierce
Yeah, Top Gun almost made me join the Navy.
Thank God I figured out that at 6 ft. 5" there was no way I’d every fit in the cockpit of an F-14. With my luck, I would have ended up on a submarine with firegary. ugh.
Anyone know what is going on with Pete White
he was ralph’s last big recruit (4* I think) I haven’t heard anything about hiim…
w/o looking it up
I thought Pete’s working his way in on the line after the redshirt.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
Seeing some time
He is working towards some playing time. Especially after losing Justin Lewis.
by Terrapin Insider on Aug 5, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
if all goes good
in your opinion, does it seem like Pete will get more PT this season? He was working towards that at the end of last season.
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