Villanova Captain Isaiah Armwood Transferring, Maryland "In the Mix"
by Ben Broman on Aug 18, 2011 12:16 PM EDT
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PrintIt's been a few days without any big basketball news, so this is right on cue: former Montrose Christian star and current Villanova Wildcats forward Isaiah Armwood is transferring, and Maryland might be interested. (h/t JWKTerp)
Sources told CBSSports.com that schools in the mix for Armwood are Maryland, Iowa, Texas Tech and George Washington. Armwood grew up near Maryland and GW and both Iowa and Texas Tech have former Villanova assistant coaches - Andrew Francis (Iowa) and Chris Walker (Texas Tech).
Armwood is a former four-star and was part of a loaded DC-area 2009 HS class, which included Mouphtaou Yarou, Dante Taylor, and a few other players that didn't end up at Maryland. (Gary Williams landed Jordan Williams instead.) While he's yet to live up to his billing - averaging only 2.5 ppg as a sophomore last year - he did play 17 minutes per game for a pretty good (at times) team (and possessed pretty high OReb% and Blk% rates). But he was obviously a clubhouse leader: he was Villanova's captain for the upcoming year.
More importantly, he's 6-8 and talented. Wright says he was a starter during the Wildcats' overseas trip. Recruiting prospects be damned: Maryland isn't in the position to turn down that proposition. He's a combo forward, hovering in between the 3 and the 4 much like Amile Jefferson, but size is size. (Also, I'd love be able to call a player on Maryland "Zeke.")
He would have to sit out a year (unless he received an unlikely waiver), meaning he'd enter the program next season, the same year as Jefferson (along with Shaquille Cleare and Seth Allen) would play their first years. After that, he'd have two years of eligibility remaining.
And yes, there is some thought, however speculative it may be, that Villanova is just clearing space for Jefferson, given that they need the scholarship space and Jefferson and Armwood are similar players. But that's a good enough consolation prize for me. Jefferson, as good as he is, probably wouldn't have a significantly greater impact right away than a junior with a year of practice with the Terrapins under Turgeon.
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I like it. I hope he comes.
Not only do we get a talented player but we spread out scholarships, in terms of when the player would graduate. Great roster move
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 18, 2011 12:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Tend to disagree
Pretty sure we have better talent at the wing than this guy already on the roster (Parker, Slick Nick). If he was 6’11….
he is a tweener. He is listed at 6'8 - 6'9
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 18, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
What makes a captain transfer?
Nova ain’t really trying to push him out like that are they?
by T Free on Aug 18, 2011 12:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I doubt nova would push him out
Unless wright was lying about him being a captain and a probable starter this year.
Probably some kind of personal issue.
by aholla30 on Aug 18, 2011 12:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wright on him and why...
“He’s the greatest kid in the world," Wright told CBS Sports. "He’s our hardest-working guy, our captain. We started him every game on our trip (to Europe). I love him to death.
“I just want to see him achieve his goals.”
Armwood (6-9, 210) averaged 2.5 points and 3.6 rebounds last season but still was named team captain. But after Villanova’s recent exhibition tour of France and the Netherlands, Wright said Armwood realized he wouldn’t receive the quality minutes he had hoped to get playing behind center Mouph Yarou and freshman forwards JayVaughn Pinkston and Marcus Kennedy.
by MoCounty11 on Aug 18, 2011 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This makes more sense
than his transferring b/c of A. Jefferson. It wouldn’t add up that a starting junior in Armwood would transfer b/c of a potential recruit – let alone one who would be a freshman during Armwood’s senior year.
This is great
Hopefully Amile Jefferson sees the log jam as well and decides to go somewhere where he will get major mins.
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 18, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Was sorry to have missed on him in 09
Will be real happy if we land him now, good solid kid from what I remember. Plus, we can use the height at any time, go get him Turge!
Penn State
Don’t be surprised if he ends up at PSU. I’m not sure what their needs are, but they have two former NOVA coaches and could probably use all the help they can get.
Unrelated
but I heard about a big brawl between G’town and a Chinese pro team in China. Just happened and things are apparently pretty serious
yea
Dino Tweeted about it. Apparently one of the gtown players (Henry Sims) caught a karate chop to the neck.
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 18, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean a kung fu chop
Karate is japanese, kung fu is Chinese. Don’t be so culturally insensitive.
Muggsy -- 2,318 career NBA rebounds.
by Muggsy Bogues on Aug 18, 2011 3:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I always thought
that karate was for self-defense. In all honesty….no other college team is going to go over there after this unless some major $$$ are being paid. Did you see all the fans throwing stuff at the Hoyas players?!?…pretty sad really.
I wonder
The Chinese governing athletic bodies probably do not monitor it once they’re pros (as opposed to Olymipic athletes, where they probably use all sorts of masking agents), but don’t some of the Chinese look like they’re in Roid Rage mode when trying to stomp, kick and chop the GTown players? I wouldn’t be surprised if they weren’t getting growth hormones from a young age once they were identified as having some skill as a basketball player. We should probably have them tested before we play anymore games with them. Dudes were raging! What a disgrace.
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by bball purist on Aug 18, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
This kid
was on team USA for a reason. He went to Villanova for a reason. He played 17 mins a game as a sophmore on a team better than MD for a reason. What is my point in laying out the facts….. HE IS BETTER THAN HIS STATS SHOW. And he is damn sure better than a lot of the players on our current roster. I would take him no questions asked. He would be a part of the Stoglin/Howard/Parker class. Spacing scholarships is key.
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 18, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions
He's Shane Clark II
there’s a reason he’s transferring. He’s not very good.
by Asnis71 on Aug 18, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ccoach edsall on sirius radio today
with mike leach…interesting. I think it already happened but if someone can find that and post it on here, I think that’d be something worth listening too
by churl77 on Aug 18, 2011 1:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
why the hell
would md want isiah armwood? i say NO THANKS
by slimmy1 on Aug 18, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Why pass on this guy
when we still have darn near half a roster to fill up and have only one person signed up right now for the next 2 years I understand not wanted to take up a spot when you could potentially have it filled with a 5-star stud, but c’mon fellas. I love MD BBall as much as anyone and watched every game for the last 10 years, but I think we all need to come back to reality a little bit here (at least for now). Have we assembled a solid staff after GW’s departure….I think just about every MD fan would agree, however, until their recruiting starts really paying dividends (no offense to Seth, whom I think can be a solid 4-year guy) we need to do what it takes to put this team in a position to win. Right now…aside from a ton of buzz, which I admit is a great thing, I’m still a bit skeptical about the next few years. This year….we have some major holes as we all know….but next year…we are supposed to be making major strides forward….how about get a 6-8 player (although he’s probably more like 6-6) who can play hard nosed defense. I say go after this guy!
apparently
I failed to edit this before posting….ooops
Bring him in
I’ve watched Nova hoops for a long time…..I’ve seen Armwood play and yes his offensive stats are lacking, his defense is very on point much like Mosley last year. Say what you will about Mosley’s drop off in production, he still was a force on defense creating turnovers and making the guards of the other team play harder. Armwood needs to be more aggressive on offense and I think could develop nicely in our system like a Milbourne type player. And lets not forget Armwood in his only minute of the tourney his freshman year hit a game winning 3 for Nova in the Puerto Rico tipoff i think was the tourney. He’s got potential and 2 years of eligibility after sitting out next year and can be a big contributor right away.
Everyone saying we dont need this kid
needs to get a grip. just because we have some studs on our radar doesn’t mean we are too good for this guy. not everyone on the team can be your favorite 5 star; you need glue guys and leaders and workers—you guys should know this youre maryland fans.
by PAB522 on Aug 18, 2011 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
On another post...
someone actually said that he would’nt start over Weiss?!?!?! Really??????
Yeah...Really
Weiss has 3or 4 inches on this guy and a bit more of an offensive game. This isnt the Isaiah Armwood we hoped to get 3 yrs ago…the flaws in his game have been exposed
so you are
supporting that this guy wouldnt start over weiss? Get real. Weiss played at a community college for a reason… and this kid was ranked the 41st best player in the country for a reason in 2009. Come on now. This kid is better than Pankey, Weiss, and all the walk ons that will be manning the post. I personally think he is better than Padge but thats debateable. While Padge had slightly better numbers, this guy played on a better team
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 18, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
When was the last time you saw Armwood play?
kid averaged 2 ppg in 17 minutes…Padge averaged the samein 1/2 the time. I’m not just looking at the #‘s here though… the kid isnt good at handling the ball and he’s got a shot that is most reminiscent of ekene ebekwe
First of all, the stats are misleading
Besides both of them being much too small of a sample size, remember that Weiss didn’t play against the ACC. You’re comparing Weiss’ 10 mpg against Colgate, Longwood, and Maine-types with Armwood’s 17mpg against Pitt, UConn, and Syracuse types. Hardly fair.
Secondly, I don’t care if Isaiah has no offense game, I don’t know how he’s worse than Weiss. Berend, bless his soul, has no offensive game either, past dunks and the awkward hook shot he tries occasionally that has like a 30% success rate. Neither of them can handle; neither of them have real post moves. Maybe they’re the same, but Berend isn’t better.
Third, and most importantly: A) Berend won’t be here when Isaiah would, and B) they wouldn’t be competing, per se, even if he was. Armwood isn’t a center, and Berend is only a center.
This is getting crazy because it all started with an impossible hypothetical
but the point was not that Berend was better…the point was that Padgett and Weiss would start over this guy in the event he was eligible this year…which we know isnt happening. Weiss and padgett would start because they play inside and Armwood is a wing, as youve said
Regardless…still cant see taking on a transfer for 2 yrs that hasnt shown signs of production for 2 yrs just because he was a 4* coming out of high school
by Asnis71 on Aug 18, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No flaws in weiss's game....right??
what are you smokin???
By all means, Weiss isnt very good
But he may at least alter or block some shots. he’s also got at least one move on the offensive end in that little half hook shot that he can hit. Armwood is a wing player taht doesnt play inside. I’m just saying hed be more likely to start over Armwood hypothetically next yr
Breunig for 4 yrs would have been >>> than Armwood for 2
by Asnis71 on Aug 18, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why are you hating
You havent NEVER seen Breunig play. He hasnt even stepped on a college court yet. How the hell do you know he can contribute.
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 18, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess
Turgeon isn’t a good coach either since he left a talented team…? Armwood very likely would of started this year for Nova…the kid has skills, he just wants to play somewhere he can show them constantly.
by MoCounty11 on Aug 18, 2011 3:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
my translation
Jay Wright doesn’t develop his big men at all
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by bball purist on Aug 18, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Turgeon isnt a good coach cause he left a talented team??? that makes no sense
stick with apples and apples
I did see
Bruenig’s little video showing him make layups and perform crossovers on an empty court.
Did you base your statement on that?
No...basing it on the video of him in live games
Breunig actually had a jump shot that looked like it had a chance to go in. As i said before, Armwood looks like the 2nd coming of Ekene Ebekwe shooting a jumper
WHO CARES
Ebekwe is better than any frontcourt player we have right now. You are smoking crack if you honestly think that isnt anything but the TRUTH. If he is Ebekwe I take him in a heart beat.
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 18, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe i wasnt specific enough for you
I’m talking about the kids jump shot. Since Armwood likes to play on the wing, his jump shot, or lack therof is important.
No kidding Ebekwe is better than any frontcourt player we have right now. If Armwood was a front court player, maybe he’d be worth taking…but hes not a front court player
Ah
Disregard my Ekene comment below.
But, um, I guess you’d hate to have Amile Jefferson on your team, huh? I mean, a wing that can’t shoot must suck.
I don’t even care if he doesn’t score. We’re not gonna land 6 five-stars in 2012 so I’m good in adding a Sean Mosley-type glue guy who can bring some experience in the front-court. That’s a worse-case, because he was a good scorer in HS.
Doesnt really have anything to do with AMile Jefferson's game- I'm not sure you can consider Jefferson a wing at this point in time- wait until he plays in college and see where he's at
Reagardless, Armwood couldnt score, Jefferson potentially can, and so can the other guys villanova has that have and would have continued to keep Armwood on the bench
Um, Jefferson is a wing.
Through and through. He plays on the perimeter. He scores through lay-ups, tip-ins, drive to the basket, etc., but he definitely isn’t a post player. He can defend 4s and probably will be asked to, but offensively he’s a 3. It’s said he went several weeks over the summer circuit without taking a jumper, BTW.
I’m saying that the same can be said about Isaiah. He scored in HS at Montrose in a variety of ways, including jumpers. I don’t think he just suddenly lost all that. Even if he can’t get a jumper going – which I’m not sure about, especially given that he’ll have a year without games to get his head right – and even if he is a pure wing – which I’m also not completely sold on – he can find other ways to contribute.
This guy is flip flopping
Jefferson is definately a wing. He is a scorer just like Armwood was in high school. Armwood wasnt the 41st player in the nation out of luck. I like the Jefferson comparison. Both tweeners who are undersized in weight but find a knack to score the ball. Im not the least bit concerned that Armwood didnt put up big numbers at Nova. Their loss could be our gain.
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 18, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
And I was calling Asnis71 a flip flopper not you Ben
One min he says he is a SF and another he says you cant compare his game to Jefferson yada yada
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 18, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Charlotte
better get to the beach cuz u keep catching the flip floppers. I think it’s the 3rd this week! lol
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by bball purist on Aug 18, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
How can I be flip flopping when I never even brought up A Jefferson
I was merely countering BB’s logically flawed statement that if I dont like Armwood’s game, then I must not like Jefferson game.
You’re going to compare the 2’s games now when Jefferson hasnt even played in college yet? From what I’ve seen, Jefferson can put the ball on the floor…Armwood cant
I’ll stand by the fact though that if a guy is going to play on the wing in college, he better be at least a threat to hit a jumper. I dont care if its Armwood, Jefferson, or Sean Moseley. If they arent a threat to hit a 15ft’er, theyll have a hard time being a consistent scorer
"He hasnt even stepped on a college court yet. How the hell do you know he can contribute."
your words regarding Breunig, I think the same applies to Jefferson. All things point to Jefferson being a great player, but wait until he does it before using him as a comparison
"jump shot that looked like it had a chance to go in"
I’ve seen Bruenig air mail a few jumpers. Pretty stroke, horrible end result.
I know that Armwood has a limited offensive game, but you do understand that we have three post players right now, right? Like Charlotte said, if you offered me Ekene right now, I take him.
And that will be his handle here
Captain Armwood?
by PaTerp on Aug 18, 2011 3:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Armwood is just what we need
A kid who plays great D. So he has to sit out a year and bulk up in the weight room. Let Turge work on him. We’re gonna have enough scorers. Let’s pick up a kid who knows how to block the lane.
Matt Bracken interview
Bracken talked with Armwood after the transfer decision. Link is below:
No contact
from our staff as of yet makes me believe that he isn’t a legit target for us. I hope turge knows something I don’t!
Yea
Also, Armwood sounds rather tepid about UMD.
Did you see the picture...
So funny for a guy named Armwood!
Saw him play his Senior Year @ Montrose...
I went to watch then UMD commit Terrence Ross lace em up but as I sat and watched, was much more impressed with Yarou and Armwood and oh yea some little know 6th man Freshman off the bench. Yarou was still very raw but you could tell right away he would be a stud once he learned the game more. Armwood was their main scorer if I remember correctly and finished very well around the basket. He’s a local kid with a great head on his shoulders and would have no problem extending a scholly to him. I think he would definitely contribute quality minutes his Junior and senior years.
by MoCounty11 on Aug 18, 2011 3:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
little known 6th man Frosh = He who must not be named
lol
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by bball purist on Aug 18, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, a telling comment
about what I’ve said about Jay Wright – doesn’t mean I’m right, but Armwood implied what I’ve been saying for a while: Wright doesn’t get his guys ready for the next level.
"There was a good chance I was going to start" this season, Armwood said. "I just wanted to have an opportunity to get to the next level. I thought the best opportunity was at a school other than Villanova."
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
I think
that he wasn’t dogging Wright but that his lack of PT would hurt his chances of getting into the NBA
You have to say
that he would have a better chance at getting in the NBA playing at Nova than any of the other schools listed (except UMD)
maybe i'm lost on this but...
wouldn’t he have to sit the full 2011-2012 season??
and on top of that, wouldn’t he lose a year of eligibility and only have one season to give to another D1 team?¿
why are we jumping for a younger version of dino gregory without the intangibles?¿
and why are NOT thinking that wright/villanova pushed the kid out to make room for a more promising freshman?
i’m confused. lol
Yeah...you're right,
don’t want to take Volodymyr’s scholly!!
idk
For a defensive forward, I would hope for better than a 3.6 rebound avg. I would rather go after a recruit with potential than settle for another team’s hand-me-downs. If he’s not good enough to get playing time at Nova, then why is he good enough for MD?
Observation
All of the posters who are the first to report about recruits and post the most about recruiting seem to be saying take him. All of the people who rarely comment are saying he isnt good enough. Which group of people do you think follows recruiting more? Just like that same group of die hards are all saying LAYMAN is over rated and isnt as good as his ranking. Interesting…….
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 18, 2011 5:31 PM EDT reply actions
Observation
I’m not a frequent poster either, but I think what’s more telling is the post content. Many of the posts saying don’t take him use statements like “another team’s hand-me-downs” and “continued to keep Armwood on the bench” while seemingly ignoring the facts that he had 17 mpg last year and per Wright is a Captain. I don’t follow recruiting as closely as some here, but those little bits and a supposed high effort player sound great to me. Besides, we’d only be asking him to help as through a couple of years where there will do doubt be some freshman growning pains while we try to find a front court so it seems like a good fit.
That said, if Amile Jefferson is between Nova and UMD and Armwood didn’t feel like he was getting preped for the next level as needed then maybe this becomes fodder to help land AJ, and maybe the staff has a good handle on what they think this class is going to end up looking like already. So while I’d love to see Armwood become a Terp, I think I’ll just trust the staff on how this pans out.
seem level headed
wish you would post your thoughts more. Agree with everything you said
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 19, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Observation
If someone doesn’t post a lot, it only means they don’t post a lot.
by rsdk on Aug 18, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
just becuase someone posts alot or not
doesn’t mean they know more or less about recruiting and players. It probably means they have more going on in their life than posting on message boards.
You make my pee-pee maker t-t-tingle.
this coming from you? you post all the time
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 19, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
bahahahahha - dead on - I luv Hey Yo's posts!
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by bball purist on Aug 19, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Youre still fawning over this guy because he was a 4* 3 yrs ago
I’ve watched him play a handful of times in college and seen that he’s got no confidence in his ability to put the ball on the floor and therefore cant. I’ve seen a 6’8" guy that hangs out on the perimeter on offense, and isnt a threat to make a 3point shot consistently. I dont care what dave telep though of him at montrose, the kid isnt going to avg more than 6 pts a game in a top conference
Why the hell are ppl saying not take him? Last time I checked we only have 3 players on scholarship over 6’6. So yes plz take him if he even wants to come here. & we even lose Weiss nxt yr (probably/hopefully filled by shaq) so yes take a guy with experience on a pretty good villanova team.
by Kralle_MD2IND on Aug 18, 2011 6:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I just think Maryland should shoot higher
Somebody compared him to Mosley. Mosley has his upside, but I want better. No reason we can’t get a forward that plays good defense but also contributes on offense.
Under Jay Wright's system
Bigs mostly do not thrive nor improve – look at the guys who didn’t elevate their game, but rather stagnated – Sumpter, Sheridan, Clark, Anderson, Pena, Drummond, and Yarou is next…(didn’t count Fraser due to injuries – he would have underachieved too if he was healthy due to top ranking). The only guy to improve imo was Cunningham.
Jay Wright is great with his guard oriented offense, but the bigs are neglected and underperform in his system.
I’m going to be willing to take a chance that if Turge and Armwood determine they’re a good match, then Armwood will do well with a Coach that develops F and C as well as his brethren at PG, instead of Jay “I only love my guards” Wright.
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
This year
we would be Mark “I only have guards” Turgeon
good one! Tru
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by bball purist on Aug 19, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
word
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by bball purist on Aug 18, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
is this one of the role players that Raylew was talking about?
atleast he was a top 40 some time ago even if he can’t shoot all that great i’m cool with it… looks like it’s goina take awhile gotta do the best we can like Raylew had spoke it out nows coming true
Let's see - Raylew method we all talk about over and over
We throw a big pile of s on the wall – look, something may have stuck. Second of all, as you said, we’re talking a top 40 ranking!
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by bball purist on Aug 18, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Once upon a time...
there was a kool-aid party…they all said look up on the wall the giants coming and goina take us to the land where the kool-aid never stops…
#MitchMcGaryFacts lol
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by bball purist on Aug 19, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's funny ...
…..that so many people would choose unknown recruits who haven’t even agreed to come here yet over *****THE CAPTAIN OF VILLANOVA’S FREAKING TEAM!!!!!!* … you people kidding me? As it currently stands, we have something like 7 scholarship players for 2012 if you include Seth Allen. You’re really telling me we don’t have any use for a 6-foot-8 former 4-star local kid with leadership qualities who was slated to be a starter at a perennial top-15 team? Really?
Once again... someone who follows recruiting and is always posting agrees that we should take this kid.
My observation still stands. Ben, myself, bball, bpell, Flaterp, bigbird, PAB, Oriolekid, & rvandegrift all say that we should take him if he wants to come to MD.
Some of you guys live in some fairy land. Yes we are involved with a ton of top talent but the likelihood of us landing them all is slim. Shaq, McGary, Macon, Allen, & Henderson for next year is going to be about as good as you are going to get… and that would be freaking awesome. More and more im not so sure if that is going to even happen. Adding a 6-8 player who has experience and who isnt a freshman would be great. We would be on the hook with him for 3 years and it helps stagger scholarships.
I dont know about everyone else, but I would prefer not to be in this situation in 3-4 years and have to fill 5+ scholarships again. Lets keep it 3-4 scholarship players a year.
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 19, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
and ...
again … he’s captain … before his junior year. I think that’s probably a statement on what kind of kid he is. Jay Wright “loves” him. That’s as strong a word as you can use. I also think it’s unfair to hold the kid accountable for his stats as a sophomore when we’re talking about a team that is a top-4 seed in the NCAA tourney every year. Shane Battier, a captain type of player, a 6-foot-8 non-banger, averaged 9 points in 25 minutes as a sophomore at dook.
Wait a second, did I just voluntarily bring up Shane Battier? My bad. I’ll put myself in 48-hour exile as punishment.
very funny
So I guess we will hear from you on Sunday…
The point you seem to be missing
is that you are accepting a Maryland team that is second tier. You are saying Maryland can’t hope to be at Villanova’s level, so we should accept players that aren’t top talent. I disagree. I think that Maryland should be going after the top talent that will make us a first tier program. We won’t get everyone we want, but why settle until we have to.
But I shouldn’t have said that. Those of us not in your list should just shut up, sit back, and listen to the sage advice of the select few.
Ok realistically name me players that you think are going to come to MD who will get us to this TOP TIER level. You have not thrown out one suggestion. Do you really think that landing McGary is going to get MD to a top tier program? A program becomes a top tier program after years and years of success. Nothing is changed overnight. MD is a second tier team in the ACC right now… how do you expect to just change right away. Analyze Duke’s roster or Unc’s. They arent all 5 star players. They have a number of 3-4 star talent. Seth Curry ring a bell? How about the mormon that UNC gave a scholarship to this year. All programs even TOP TIER programs have players on their roster who arent 5 stars.
Why are you and so many other not comprehending that most D-1 players only contribute for 3 years. There arent many true freshman that come in and are game changers from day 1. This guy played 17 minutes a game last year for a team that was far better than MD. Unless my math is wrong thats roughly half of a college bball game. The kid can play. I hope he comes here and is a monster so all the MD haters are proven wrong.
For a University that has 7 scholarship players, havent had much success in basketball lately compared to what we are use to, the fan base sure has a lot of haters. Im not sure what some of you thing MD is entitled to. Jwill was pretty accurate on that statement.
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 19, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah dude, I'm a hater because i dont think Armwood is very good
Get real. i would have like the kid if he had come to MD 3 yrs ago, and I’ll like him if he comes here now. i just dont think he’s going to do much at a high level. Get a new word aside from “hater”…it’s lame and juvenile
Charlotte, your twisted logic
is putting a lot in my post that I didn’t say. I never said anything about any particular players who are “going” to come to MD. How would I know that? You don’t think we should go after top recruits, fine, you are entitled to your opinion. Did I say landing McGary would make us top tier? No, I’ve never posted anything anywhere about McGary. Did I say anything about becoming top tier overnight? No, I didn’t say that because I don’t believe it will happen in one season. But you won’t get there if you don’t start going after the right recruits. Did I say anything about getting all 5-star players? Nope. Top talent doesn’t necessarily equate to 5-star or even 4-star in my opinion. Did I say anywhere that I expected freshman to be game changers? No to that also. Like Asnis, I don’t see where you get off calling MD fans haters just because we don’t believe a player is right for the team.
So do you geniuses just follow recruiting, or have you actually watched this kid play since he got to Nova?
Sure, if he realy wants to come here, says wow, I really should have gone to MD in the 1st place, and this is where I want to be, take him. I just dont think Turgeon will go out of his way to recruit this kid over the next few days given his production to date in the Big East
disagree
Sorry, broke my exile already …
In my opinion, it doesn’t matter what any of us think. Turgeon will snap this guy up in a heartbeat if we’re lucky enough for him to choose us. He’s a starter and captain at a better program. That’s a no-brainer.
My guess is he ends up at GW or an equivalent level program
Kid wants to show off his game to get to the NBA. He’s not going to do that in the ACC any more than he could in the Big east
Kid wants to show off his game to get to the NBA……. So you now are implying he is good enough potentially to make the NBA? Talk about flip flopping!!!! How many pro players come from GW! no way in he’ll he goes to GW if his goal is to go to the NBA! You make zero sense. “he’s not going to do that in the acc or big east” did anyone think jwill would get drafted after his first year? Then he had a monster year and he goes pro. All it takes is one good year. Guy still has 2 years left to prove himself! Unbelievable
Please dont bring up Raylew52 like he knows what the hell he is talking about. That kid throws darts at a dartboard blindly hoping one will stick so he could say I told you I would hit the board. "L7 WEENIE"
by Charlotte NC Terp on Aug 19, 2011 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You JUST DONT GET IT...
Take things out of context at all??? Never in anything I’ve said have I implied I thought he was good enough for the NBA, so no, again, I’m not flip flopping here. Its a reference to his quote in Brackens article. Saying he wants to show off his game does not mean he’s ready nor good enough for the NBA. For your clarification, when I stated he’s not going to do that (show his skill for the NBA) in the ACC or Big East implied that he’s not good enough for those conferences…given the fact that he averaged all of 2 points last season.
I just want to get *one* freakin' Montrose guy in here
so the fgs of the world will end that nonsense too….
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Aug 19, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
he's a glue kid
with skills, hard worker…..coach loves him. Why are we even debating this. He could lend some insight to all the 2012 and 13 recruits. If you think these freshmen are going to step right in and bring a championship….you’re nuts. they are going to need some veteran advice!!
role player or not take the freakin' super glue!
this is like saying we don’t want Byron Mouton because we got a chance to get Chris Wilcox because we got a buzz about our program…if you can get a proven Byron Mouton you take him nows all we need is Chris Wilcox
MOOooooooou-ton
Gotta break out my classic Mouton poster -
"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."
by bball purist on Aug 19, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd take him.
Good height, plus local Montrose connection and plenty of roster room make this an easy decision, imo. That’s if he even WANTS to come here, which would make this hilarious arguing moot.
i'm sensing some tension here...
over this entire comment feed anyway. as the great BEP & JT used to sing, where’s the love?
2012
okay everybody needs to calm down it’s not like we’re going to be a bunch of losers if we don’t get Mcgary and Shaq and Armwood or something…there are alot of role players out there that we haven’t heard of yet and one of the coolest things about late bloomers is they become fan favorites who could forget when Pete Holbert came off the bench and fired up a bomb or when Marsedech got the key slam we desperately needed… we’ll get the players we need but it might not be the Amile Jefferson and may look more like the Greg Witherington sometimes you want the corvette but end up having to get the mustang and it still works out. Henderson kind of reminds me of Keith Gatlin and I think he’d make a great terp.
disregard the last post not sure what i was thinking...
Marsedech never slammed it on anybody… and if we don’t land some solid 4 to 5 star recruits we’re really going to suck sure hope that the “buzz” is real.. guess we’ll know in time
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