Maryland Coaching Search: Assorted Links on Turgeon, Search Committee, and More
by Ben Broman on May 8, 2011 10:47 PM EDT
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I was going to do a Maryland Minute tonight. Unfortunately, there's, uh, no news out there besides coaching stuff. So I guess we'll just talk some more about that. Cuz, you know, we just haven't beaten it into the ground yet.
We'll start off with Mark Turgeon, the most recent supposed flirt. I've been a Turgeon fan for awhile, but his hiring would induce happathy for me - I'd be fine with it, but not particularly excited. However, maybe Turgeon isn't quite as high up on the list - or doesn't like Maryland - as much as some think. A TAMU beat writer says that folks on the A&M side would be "surprised" if he left, though they wouldn't be completely shocked. For the record, he's been on a family vacation, so it's doubtful that anything serious has already happened.
Now, this might mean that Maryland is passing on Turgeon, not the other way around - I think we're starting to get a little too turned-down happy. Either way, it doesn't sound like Turgeon is a done deal, and I don't think he ever was. If I have to guess a candidate right now, I'm taking him, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it be anyone else, either.
As for how long it might take the deal to get done, the Post says that Kevin Anderson and Wallace Loh are meeting tomorrow to create a search committee of sorts. This might be complete baloney, or it might indicate that this is going to take a few more days. The longer it takes, the worse it is for everyone involved, but it'll be worth it if they get the right guy.
Jeff Barker has an interesting candidate/comedic relief: former Maryland star John Lucas. Lucas apparently wants the job, and he has been a coach before (for three different NBA teams). He was average at best at all three, though, and at 57 he's starting to get a little old. And, well, he's never been a college coach, either. It's fun to think about and would be awesome if it worked, but it's a little too out there. I don't think the interest will be reciprocated, but that's just me.
And, lastly, here's a piece from the Chicago Tribune on Maryland's search. It looks like they took a columnist from each of the Tribune papers - Chicago Tribune, BSun, Orlando Sentinel, and LA Times - and asked their opinion on who Maryland should've hired. It's already outdated - one guy says Mike Brey - but the suggestion of Mark Few is interesting. Few is a Gonzaga institution and a West Coast lifer, but Maryland would present an interesting opportunity for him. Not one that he'd take, mind you, but it'd be interesting if nothing else.
Unfortunately, tonight is a Sunday, meaning tomorrow is a Monday, meaning it's a week night, meaning I can't stay up until the wee hours of the morning just in case Kevin Anderson offers the job to Curtis Malone or something. So good night, and godspeed.
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How disappointing will it be
If our basketball hire makes less of a ripple than our football hire did
i heard, from premium sources, KA couldnt convince him to take the job
by (adm)iregary on May 8, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Master Plan by Anderson
If they just straight promoted Ehsan we would all be mad that they didn’t shoot for the stars. Now that we have been rejected by so many people, promoting Ehsan sounds like a great idea and the fanbase would be happy that we didn’t get someone shitty.
Ehsan
I didn’t realize until a few minutes ago that he already is the head coach! Crazy.
EVERYONE
E-MAIL KEVIN ANDERSON at KEVINA@UMD.EDU and tell him you want EHSAN FOR HEAD COACH
On another thread I quipped
“ONE: the terps aint gonna get a top coach/ top recruiter, they aint even gonna get a top one or the other. What was Gary when he was hired?”
Ehsan……..
I quote SI tonite:
“For a coach who achieved so much, remember that Jackson was rather lightly regarded when Jerry Krause brought him on as a Bulls assistant in 1987.”
If RE was truly ready (and some day soon he will be)
to be the Terps HC, Gary would’ve had KA approach him already and checked things out – jmtc
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of Montrose's games next year so...
JA can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
Interim
They named him interim head coach so they clearly think pretty highly of him.
Yeah well
I don’t they expected to be turned down by every high major coach out there. Not to mention, Gary is basically fully retired. He isn’t sticking around to help with basketball stuff, so this is neither Gary’s concern or responsibility.
by kryptonianjorel on May 9, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
the more i think about it
if we arent gonna get a TOP coach (miller, wright, dixon, donovon, etc) i 100% endorse Eshan. All the current players are tweeting it, the mayor and ehayes are tweeting it, he is the man for the job. he can grow up at md, he has connections in the area, all the recruits list him as the first reason they are coming, it makes sense. we had one coach from 1970-1987ish, then a joke, then gary from 89-2011, now lets have eshan from 2011-2030
me too
if the players are for it, im for it.
just curious if anyone has seen gibbs, faust or anderson say anything about eshan?
Greivis and Eric Hayes are on it too, via Twitter.
by FearTheTurtIe on May 8, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Tubby Smith??
He’s sixty so he could stay a few years until Eshan is ready!!
Ehsan would be a very big risk
But how much of it would be calculated? For every lightly regarded coach that is given a big job and become wildly successful, how many fail?
Ehsan would need at least 3 years to show us something, not this 1 year thing that people are saying. It wouldn’t be fair to asses him after next year.
Contract
They would definitely have to give him a 3 year contract or so to ensure that recruits would believe that Ehsan would be there when they came.
It’s really not that large of a risk. Give him a 3 year contract (anything else would be recruiting suicide) and evaluate him after that time period. As an internal promotion, the margin for error is larger. If he fails, so be it. I doubt the situation of the program will be markedly worse in three years than it is now, and we can go through a coaching search then in a much more calculated, measured manner. It’s a medium-risk, high-reward situation, and those are rare.
by FearTheTurtIe on May 8, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
And as a bonus
if RE were not to work out, the Master Plan can have it that any money saved on getting RE at a newbie coaching salary could be put towards a new coach. Kinda building up an irresistable war chest… no offense to RE, I hold out belief he may be able to pull it off if US FANS give him time. That’s why little weasel firegary isn’t a true Terp fan. After 5 games, his new handle would be firerob…so creative…
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of Montrose's games next year so...
JA can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 9, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Better the devil you know, right?
If we’re not getting a big name, then why not go with someone already in the program?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
I joked about this above....
But, what if he really is the choice? If he was straight up announced as the replacement I think this board and a lot of the alums would lose it and blame Anderson for not even trying to get a hot shot coach. Plus if they asked Miller and he said yes, then that would be a great coupe. If they asked big time guys and they said no then they could just wheel out Ehsan as the logical choice to replace Gary.
Not possible
If Ehsan was in the plans all along, I’m gonna bet that Gary would have mentioned it from the get-go and given a full endorsement at his going away party. There would have been more of a “passing the torch” ceremony to coincide with his retirement. At least some mention of it.
Secondly, current and past players have loyalty to Gary, obviously. Of course they are going to rally for Ehsan. They know him, they’ve worked with him. However, are you going to tell me that he’s going to keep the ship on the same course, recruiting wise, that Gary did and have more success than our dearly departed HOF coach? Gary could show you a ring for his pitch. Ehsan can pull out an autographed picture of Gary and say, “I used to work with this guy.”
Hiring Ehsan full time is to admit defeat. It flies in the face of all these wonderful accolades our program has received in the past week about being a top 10 coach position.
That is like being told you’re going to get a bike for Christmas and then getting your older brother’s second hand rollerskates.
if its good enough for eric and greivis
its good enough for me
It's painfully obvious
PLAYERS WANT TO PLAY FOR THIS GUY!
Shouldn’t that be one of the most important qualities of a coach??
Bino
Would he be on board with working for a much younger head coach?
by TerpFan2001 on May 9, 2011 12:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
When...
….I was graduating at UM in 1975, as a 29 yo Viet Nam vet, interviewers asked me that question many times.
I'm all for Ehsan
but still would explore at least Few first, if he isn’t interested then do it
Of course they want to play for him
They already know him. If your parents died and you were given the choice between your aunt raising you or going to an orphanage, what do you think you would choose. Your might not be the most qualified person to raise you but she is comforting.
I love Ehsan but I don’t think he is ready. If was landing 5 star recruits than I think the risk reward ratio works, but he hasn’t yet.
In house is way overrated. Plus Ehsan is there no matter what. You can shoot the moon all month and still end up with him.
Try starting a #KeithBoothForHc and getting the players involved
Wouldn’t go anywhere
It’s well-known that Ehsan is a player-favorite and a great recruiter.
My $.02
I say take Ehsan to give the kid a chance…we are losing credibility all over the place right now. Let him come in and give at least one year experience when we are going through a transformational stage anyway. If he falls on his face, which i’d be surprised about because the guys seem to love playing for him, then we can start earlier in the process next year to get a new coach.
There is probably some obvious reason
but why is Bino not in any conversation for this?
HE knows that, right?
No hard feelings from him if E gets it, we’re assuming?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
I don't think it's possible for any of us to predict how Bino reacts
But here’s the thing: assistants don’t coach for money, or to be home, or whatever. They coach for experience and to learn from their HCs so they can get a job one day. He might be fine working with someone younger than him, but I don’t see what he gets out of the deal other than money, which he could get anywhere.
If I’m him, I don’t stay around, but that’s just me.
That's a salient point
If we promote E, we just might lose out best recruiter. Although, at this point, where would he go? Pretty late in the hiring season. So he might stick out one year and then be gone.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
this
is the worst joke in the history of Western Civilization
Isn't a joke
They have an open spot, and it would make a lot of sense. Bino has been doing work on Shaq and the Harrisons, and probably represents Zona’s best competition for both of them.
im pretty sure he could get any recruit he wants
by (adm)iregary on May 9, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I heard he had interest
and KA turned down even a phone convo with him
recruiting pitch
1. sits down on kids couch
2. take out a case from his breifcase
3. open case
4. remove 10 finals rings
5. place finals rings on fingers
6. shake kids hand with 10 fingers of rings+2 on one finger
7. ask kid if he wants to talk to kobe bryant, shaq, or michael jordan, then shows him he has them on speed dial
8. say “im fucking phil jackon”
9. use towel to wipe the drool off kids face
10. TEN FUCKING RINGS
don't forget - 11th ring used for earring!!! lmssao - Good Post
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of Montrose's games next year so...
JA can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 9, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Random, but
Is anyone on here responsible for the Fake Kevin Anderson twitter page?
http://twitter.com/#!/FakeKvinAndrson
Hilarious
by mrwhitey on May 9, 2011 12:30 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha oh my god this is hilarious.
Dear Passionate fan, I know you are passionate, but please reply with a logical answer or I will ignore you.
by TerpsAllTheWay on May 9, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
whoever it is
probably shouldnt be tweeting this stuff to the recruits, joke or not
takes the credibility away from KA, and the coaching search
Takes away credibility?
I think the real Kevin Anderson is taking it away at a much faster rate. Besides, no kid signs up for a school because of the AD.
Coach: “So son, are you ready to sign with us?”
Recruit: “Coach, you’re terrible and have never gotten anyone into the NBA….However, your AD is off the hook, hell yeah I’m going to sign!”
Excellent
Outside of its message to KA, your email helped bring focus to me of all the posts about Eshan. Until today, I’ve been ignorant of Eshan. From his official UMd bio, he seems to be top drawer in terms of recruiting and organizating. What about his Xs and Os skills? His ability to motivate players to perform beyond their potential? Gary had these in spades, and they got him through times when the recruits were not of the highest quality.
Eshan seems to have much responsibility for the recent recruiting fortunes at UMd. We have not been getting the 5-star guys. Maybe we didn’t pursue them. I’d like to know whether any blue chippers, in turning down Maryland, told Eshan they’d come on board if he, not Gary, were in charge. If the answer is none, then I wonder how Eshan as head coach brings improvement on a front nearly everyone seems to agree needs improvement.
by Runningcloud on May 9, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Eddie Jordan for HC
Make it happen Kevin Anderson.
When you're rich you don't write checks - Randy Moss
by s.r.genovese on May 9, 2011 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This is a half joke
but what the hell at this point. He’s from the DC area, he almost took the Rutgers job so he obviously has some interest in college coaching. And right now he’s just sitting on his ass.
When you're rich you don't write checks - Randy Moss
thats actually a really good idea
He was a good NBA coach
by settleten on May 9, 2011 8:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Eddie I would think about
John Lucas, probably not.
When you're rich you don't write checks - Randy Moss
by s.r.genovese on May 9, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Eddie
Native Washingtonian, players coach, had good success in the NBA, available, really well like and respected in this area. Truthfully, I would take him over anyone not named Sean Miller or Brad Stevens. I cannot name one downside to hiring him, its just crazy enough to be brilliant.
College guys want to play for NBA coaches. This would allow for that. I think srgenovese is a lot wiser than he knows.
he runs a modified
Princeton offense, so I’m unsure how recruits look at this, b/c they feel like it’s stagnant and it’s not about running up and down the court!
Yeah but
The team was very backcourt focused and it really worked for them. Guess where Maryland’s squad is currently focused?
I'd be willing to try Eddie Jordan
if he wants the job, for college money, and is willing to recruit, and keep Rob and Bino on staff, this might work.
by Colorblind79 on May 9, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
try and sell that to recruits
however the princeton and the flex offense are very similar and effective
Mark turgeon
After reading his bio, this would be a great hire at this point. He is well respected by the experts and has served under some great coaches. Miller was a pipe dream, everyone was all over his nuts when they thought he was going to take the job, now I have seen him referred to a slime ball on this board. How many coaches have done what he did to get a raise, a lot of them have. Anyone remember Friedgen to the Bucs, he got a raise out of that one. It happens all the time. Miller will win a National championship at Az. long before he would have a t Maryland. Move on.
Mike Brey? not for me. Shaka Smart? flash in the pan. If we cannot get Turgeon, go with Eshan. At least he did mentor under Gary.
To Everyone
I, just like all you guys, have been losing it due to the lack of information, fake rumors, etc going on with our coaching search. I think we all just need to take a deep breath and realize there are a ton of great candidates still out there, MD is still a great job, and KA will get the job done.
Maybe I’m being optimistic but it’s too early to fly off the handle- we don’t know anything going on behind the scenes. Let’s just let this play out.
Nicely Stated Terp121......
Like all Terps fans, I am deeply concerned. Not so much about what the administration is doing, because I am sure they are diligently searching for a replacement; however, I am realistic in the thought that the timing of all this really hurts Maryland. I also feel for my fellow Terps fans (and alumni), who share in this frustrating moment of the unknown. I do, however, find it hilarious to read some of the delusional ramblings on this site, from some of the “major players” who pretend to have insider knowledge. Having said that, I am nervously confident (if that is possible) that Maryland inks the right choice, and that Maryland fans support that hiring. I say “right” choice, because I do not believe the timing will allow Maryland to make the “best” choice.
"Integrity First, Service Before Self, Excellence In All We Do" - USAF Core Values
I'm somewhere between
nervously confident and cautiously optimistic. I trust that Gary is involved enough that he will make sure the right guy is brought in. The college coaching fraternity is a very tight one, if you are a fraud, people know it. 0% chance Gary lets a guy come in that he doesn’t respect or trust will be able to take our program in the right direction.
And whoever the guy is
he will run a clean program. No way after the time Gary spent keeping this program clean would they bring in a guy who has any sort of a checkered past when it comes to NCAA infractions.
Which is also why Todd Bozeman would probably not be a great idea, or even be considered….if it were not for the Cal scandals though…..he would absolutely be a legit condidate; from DC, doing a fine job at Morgan State, etc.
"Integrity First, Service Before Self, Excellence In All We Do" - USAF Core Values
I fully agree Terp……Coach Williams is probably all over this. John Thompson said the same thing the other day, that Maryland should have Gary fully involved. Something else that Coach Thompson said that was pretty funny……instead of Maryland hiring someone that everyone wants, Maryland should find out who other ACC opponents DON’T want to see there. Even though it was said in jest, it actually has a ring of truth to it.
"Integrity First, Service Before Self, Excellence In All We Do" - USAF Core Values
The coach ACC opponents didn't want to see them hire
Was Sean Miller. Not saying they couldn’t hire someone that everyone else didn’t want to see them hire, but you’re not going to get a guy that would be feared more then Sean Miller.
Actually...
if you check out “Devils Illustrated” most Dukies wanted Miller to take the job to make the ACC relevant again. They thought Brey would have been the mistake.
Agree!
No “ring of truth” about it – it would be the smart thing to do – hope they’re doing it!
chiming in
I’d take Ehsan before Driesell at this point. Chuck’s team went 10-22 this year…granted, it was his first year, but that is not good. I would’ve been okay with Mike Lonergan but he just signed with George Washington for the next 5 years. If he succeeds and our next coach fails, maybe we take him in 3 years or so.
Ehsan is very, very young and inexperienced for the position. Yes, he’s supposed to be very talented but it’d be like giving the keys for a sports car to a teenager. Maybe he’d be great, but the risks are very high right now and even if we swing and miss on a dozen candidates he’d be happy to take the job.
Turgeon is a legitimate coach…if we can get him then we should take him and be happy about it. Think of him as being a Gary Williams with a bit more interest in recruiting (at least until proven otherwise).
I don’t want Patsos (15-15 at Loyola) or Dave Dickerson (struggled at Tulane and even if we account for the Katrina effect he’s at best an unknown), though I’d like Billy Hahn as an assistant coach if we go with Ehsan.
Gary kind of screwed us by retiring when he did. I understand that in spite of his assertions, it had something to do with Jordan leaving, but it was bad timing to say the least.
We would have to give Ehsan at least 3 years to show progress with the team, since the cupboard is so bare in the frontcourt next year. Had Chuck been around for this season I would’ve advocated promoting him, but it would’ve been equivalently uncertain.
Exactly....
As I stated in a previous post, “I am realistic in the thought that the timing of all this really hurts Maryland”.
"Integrity First, Service Before Self, Excellence In All We Do" - USAF Core Values
if Rob/Chuck just needs a few years of seasoning...
why not John Lucas or Tubby Smith? Someone who’ll come in as a purely transitional guy, impart some wisdom to Rob, and leave, allowing either Rob or Chuck (or, for that matter, Lonergan) to step into the main role here. Rob if neither Chuck nor Mike are successful at their current jobs. I think we could deal with 3-4 years of solid but unspectacular stewardship of the program.
by Colorblind79 on May 9, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
and yes, I realize that John Lucas would equte to Sidney Lowe
we’re nearing that point now. How embarrassing.
by Colorblind79 on May 9, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
What about NBA Assistant Coach Sam Cassell
It seems that people have boxed the search in to only target career college coaches. I say it’s time to go outside the box. Sam would do wonders in Baltimore recruiting. As well as having a record of winning @ basketball’s highest level. Why not?
Interviewing for NBA HC job...
plus he is a die hard Florida State alum
The Alumni thing Doesn’t Matter. As an example, Pat Dye played football for Georgia, later coached at Alabama, before eventually becoming the Head Coach at Auburn. Being considered for an NBA HC job, however, makes all the difference in the world.
"Integrity First, Service Before Self, Excellence In All We Do" - USAF Core Values
Scott Garson as next HC
He is current assistant at UCLA. Does not have connections down here, but has an impressive resume and is a good recruiter
http://twitter.com/#!/sunjeffbarker
Maryland assistants (Booth, Ehsan, Ranson) are in limbo during search. Interim coach Ehsan is well respected but not candidate for head job.
That does it.
I’m on hunger strike until we hire a coach.
This is bullshit.
Shaka
Not saying he’d even be interested if offered, but you can’t watch this video and not think he could kill it recruiting for us…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-E7qaNITFM&feature=fvst
by truebluecrab on May 9, 2011 12:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
if we can get him
I’d prefer Smart over Rob Ehsan, Mike Lonergan, and Chuck Driesell (at least for the next few years).
by Colorblind79 on May 9, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
right but...
with Lonergan I’m talking about 3 or 4 years down the line, replacing a caretaker. If we had seriously pursued him a few days ago, or just gotten him to hold off on signing something, we might have had our best option.
I'd be very happy with him
I know he just signed a big extension, but, we should be able to afford a buyout. Also, there is no way he would turn us down, and if he did, he is a complete moron. He’s reached the ceiling at VCU in his first year, all he can do is go down from there. Come to UMD and he would kill it recruiting.
really like
the idea of Mark Few. He’s the one guy left out there that hasn’t declined us, is young enough, has had great success at a mid-major, and would be a big enough name that it wouldn’t look like we messed up our search.
I don't think there's any chance we get Mark Few
it would be too big of a transition from Washington state to Washington DC. If he came, that would be a great hire, but I seriously doubt that as a possibility.
The obvious choice is Eshan
Let’s make our OWN Shaka Smart instead of going after these lame mid-level coaches from other schools. This guy is obviously going to be a star, and we’re going to lose him by picking someone who wants to bring in his own staff. So he’s a little young…. so what!!?? Smart is 32 and went to the Final Four!! Eshan will keep the players / staff / and recruits all in place which maybe a little down this year, but with Shaq and Wally coming on next year, we’d be top 20!! Come on people, enough of going after these lame Mike Brey’s of the world and take a chance on stardom! It’s the perfect time! Rob Eshan for head coach!!
You don't know that he would kill it recruiting
Yes, he has been a very good recruiter as an assistant, but that’s under the fact that he is recruiting players to play for Gary Williams, not play for him. I’m not saying he wouldn’t be a great coach or great recruiter, but there is a big difference recruiting players to play for a HOF coach and recruiting players to play for an unproven, inexperienced head coach.
But is there a better time to take a chance?
All he has to do is have one fairly successful season and all the recruits will WANT to come play here! And with the current team, we should do pretty well this year… and with GW’s guidance, he can get settled in and it’s skyward from there
I'd like Few, but I don't see him coming here if offered. He's declined other positions before.
I think he and his family really enjoy the Northwest.
by Jason Middlekauff on May 9, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions
where else has he declined?
if we are really a top 10, 20 program (as the article above still suggests—saying that Miller should have taken the job) Few might at least think about it.
by whatdoiget000 on May 9, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Video of Shaka Smart on the UMD job
Shaka was at the Cubs game this past weekend and was asked about the MD job. Basically the reporter didn’t ask him if he was interested in the job, but if he thought VCU was a good job to stay at. Shaka pretty much dodged the question and just said that VCU is a great place, and that he thinks they can be a very good basketball program.
Right
I just meant that he didn’t come out and say, “Im not interested the MD job”. If he had no interest, that’s what he should say.
The question is
who the hell was asking the question and why did he let him get away without drilling him about the MD job. I mean come on buddy atleast throw a follow up question about MD in there
Herb Sendek, really?
we would never hear the end of it from NC State.
No, and No
Sendek, even though he left NCST and didn’t get fired, still, never took NCST past the Sweet 16 and hasn’t done much at ASU.
Martin is a raving lunatic on the sidelines and even though he has gotten some great recruits, there is obviously something going on there that isn’t up to our standards.
seriously, re: Sendek (and an aside on Driesell)
that is literally guaranteeing mediocrity. No way. I’d much rather roll the dice with Smart or Ehsan.
Regarding Driesell, he’d been a head coach with a record not much better than 0.500 even before he was our assistant coach, so personally I’d prefer Ehsan.
“From 1997 to 2003, Driesell was the head coach at Marymount University, a Division III basketball team in Arlington, Virginia. In 1999, he also assumed the role of assistant athletic director. During his six-year tenure as head coach, the Saints compiled an 88–72 record, and secured the 2000 Capital Athletic Conference tournament championship and the team’s first-ever bid to the NCAA Division III tournament. During the 2003–04 season, he worked at Georgetown as the Hoyas’ recruiting coordinator and an assistant coach. From 2004 to 2006, he was the head coach of the Bishop Ireton High School basketball team.3” – Wikipedia.
compare with Lonergan
who built a powerhouse at Catholic and has done quite well at Vermont. Before the media hyped up the job, he was who I thought should replace Gary. Now that GW hired him, it’s too late…at least for the time being.
Lonergan's records
Catholic University of America: 251-88
Vermont: 126-68
Damn
I live in chi and went to the cubs game on Sunday. I would have given Shaka the hard press if I ran into him.
Herb sendek???? No chance.
by truebluecrab on May 9, 2011 1:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Rumor: Johnny Dawkins and the Maryland Head Coaching Vacancy
Latest Rumor… What do you think? I would endorse the move.
http://pacifictwelve.com/sports/johnny-dawkins-and-the-maryland-head-coaching-vacancy.html
didnt he JUST get a job?
also i am never for a dookie
No problems here.
Home town connection – like someone said before, Lefty went to Duke?
+1
I cannot root for a Dookie. Lefty gets a pass because he was far before Coach K’s time, and has a lot of personality.
possibly the best quote ever
in response to whether the cameron crazies signs bothered him:
“I went to Duke – I can’t read.’’-Lefty
by whatdoiget000 on May 9, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
If he turns out to be the difference between
making it to the tourny frequently I don’t have a problem with it.
I’m a Terp fan way before i’m a Dook hater.
maybe a pipe dream but
say we get Larry Brown for a few years, making Ehsan head coach in waiting, if that’s what he needs to stay. I know it’s probably not possible, but you never know what will spark Brown’s interest.
that would be pretty incredible
but then again, the guy’s already coached at UCLA and Kansas, two undeniably bigger programs.
by whatdoiget000 on May 9, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
More Twitter Talk Regarding Miller Decision
This guy is claiming that Anderson botched the interview with Miller: http://twitter.com/#!/wilnerhotline
Timeline:
Miller background: “Saturday, two close confidants of Miller’s told ESPN.com they expected Miller to leave.”
He met with Maryland AD Kevin Anderson. Said ESPN.com: “(Sense he was leaving) was prior to the meeting with Anderson.”
Something changed over the course of Sat afternoon, from what I’ve read and heard.
Latest on Sean Miller: Heard that Maryland bombed the interview.
Also heard that Miller knew the Maryland offer Friday night. Money wasn’t the issue.
Appears Miller was ready to accept went he walked into interview in Marriott, and then it crumbled.
i just dont know how reputable that source is
i firmly believe miller was using us as leverage
Bombed the interview
How can Anderson “bomb” the interview? He was the one interviewing Miller. I’m pretty sure you can’t bomb saying “Here’s the cash we’re offering you.” Miller knew what the money was. He knew what Maryland has to offer. Either he just used the Maryland offer as a negotiating tactic or he realized he didn’t feel like moving again. The chances of prying a coach away from an elite 8 team with a top 3 recruiting class coming to a make a lateral move were never very high. He played us like a fiddle and now has a nice contract extension.
Latest
Earlier today, we wondered who might AD Kevin Anderson target next in his search to fill Maryland’s coaching vacancy. The coaching carousel has been revved up again and Texas A&M coach Mark Turgeon appears to be the latest entrant. While A&M’s AD will not respond to any rumors, we have to read between the lines: with Maryland’s fanbase and wealth of recruiting resources, Turgeon might be persuaded to leave a school that clearly struggles to bring in fans during the nonconference slate — and it’s not like attendance is all that stellar in Big 12 play. With a capacity of close to 13,000, the average attendance at Reed Arena this season was well short of the sold-out mark.
Brett Zwerneman of the San Antonio Express News spoke to multiple sources and while many expect Turgeon to stay in the Big 12, no one was adamant he would return (though, it would still be surprising if he decamped for College Park).
We will continue to keep you updated regarding Turgeon’s candidacy, as well as the overall coaching search (and if one wants to read more into the lines, there is already some concern Turgeon did not make an planned appearance at Reed Arena).
I'm on insider
and it’s hard for me to really take anything seriously after this past weekend. Enough of this inside source stuff, I won’t be fully convinced until the press conference.
Realistically it can only be one of two things
He used us, or Anderson blew it. It seemed to fall apart pretty quickly, IE seems as if more time should have elapsed between our offer and him shopping it; to an official announcement being made that he spurned us to stay there at UA? It seemed as is if all of that happened in 3-4 hours after the meeting?
also gotta realize
that if this was 3 years ago, we wouldnt have even know about miller, just who the coach was when he was hired
the guys "dream job"
was said to be Maryland (whatever that means). KA wouldve had to royally screw up the interview to dissuade him from taking his “dream job”
Maybe he told him
how great of a clock maker he could be.
+1
frankly, he was my #2 (realistic) choice, after Miller. Or so…I would’ve liked Wright and Dixon too, but they weren’t exactly realistic, though I thought they were at the time.
Won't Even Consider Believing That.
A ton of “reliable” and “inside” sources have been wrong, so why trust this? I see no report, or article at all.
what do you mean "bleh"?
seriously, this guy is a good option. He may not be Sean Miller but he’s a very solid coach. Let’s hope that it’s true.
At this point,
I would definitely take Turgeon, but as stated before, not buying in until he is standing on this campus at the podium.
the "bleh"
is the result of the Sean Miller hangover. We all wanted to huge name to make a big splash and turn Maryland into a perennial powerhouse. Turgeon is solid, but i don’t think he is that guy.
My bleh was that I dont believe this shit
until i hear confirmation from umterps.com I’m not listening to these bullshit 24 7 sites. Have we not learned anything from miller?
I suppose after all the build up I wanted something shocking
but that could really go both ways. Either way, I don’t really believe this is happening. We just went through this already
When I hear Anderson say
“Let me introduce the new coach of Maryland basketball”, that’s when I will believe it.
The timing on this sucked
Listen I was starting to hop back on the Gary bandwagon. I will admit that I have said that he wasnt performing throughout the past year…. and I STAND behind all of my comments. I think that he wasnt as involved as he should have been with the recruits. Thats my personal opinion… either hate it or love it.
That being said Gary has been super involved with recruiting lately and I was loving how Shaq and Jefferson were putting MD as either their top or top 2 school. WE were really onto something…. now that could totally be derailed.
This past weekend Shaq and his team were in town and what happens….. this crap. I really am disappointed with how Gary handeled this. Why wasnt this decision made weeks ago?
I hope that we are able to keep Faust & JA. Im not super concerned about Gibbs because like others have said we are pretty solid at the PG position. I hope that whoever we bring in can mend/strenghten the relationship with Shaq and Jefferson because we took a step or two back this past weekend.
by Charlotte NC Terp on May 9, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
did you really see Miller in Vegas?
if so, do you think that Anderson screwed up the interview? Or was Miller just really running with his story for maximum consistency and leverage?
something
we will likely never know. I think Miller probably did have legitimate interest in the MD job, but must have come around to his senses when he realized next years team is probably no better than .500 in the ACC, whereas Zona is loaded on talent for years to come and has reestablished themselves as the pac-12 frontrunner. Why rebuild when you can win right away.
Your probably right
but he would’ve had to start from scratch and toss aside his already spectacular recruiting classes, make personnel changes, relocate his family. It just seems like an awful lot to do just to move to another position that generally isn’t considered a whole lot better than the one he is already at.
but we already have some solid recruits coming in.
so really he would have only had to add one or two to that.
This is the reasonable response and makes perfect sense
But as I told my friend (another MD alum) earlier today “I’m a fan in panic mode. It’s reasonable for me to be completely unreasonable right now!”
relocating seemed to be the least pressing
as from most accounts, coming back to the East Coast was a big draw for him and his family.
Quietness
could be because Turgeon is on family vacation
Nothing new today on the frontpage
I’m at work and reloading every 10-15 minutes in anticipation of any sort of updates. I’m half expecting a post from Ben titled ‘NOTHING NEW TO REPORT. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.’
That being said, I’m glad we’re not chasing every single tweet that pops up.
Turgeon
reading into some of the news out in the blogosphere and the recent post by Ben seems to indicate Turgeon is the next target? For one, I’m past the point of caring if the search drags on (aside from losing recruiting momentum) I just want the right guy to be hired; however long it takes fine, just get it right!
@goodmanonfox: A&M coach Mark Turgeon has not made a decision yet whether or not to accept Maryland’s offer, sources told FOXSports.com.
So we offered him?
I dont believe it. KA probably goes into negotiations wearing a helmet and velcro shoes.
by TerpMasterX on May 9, 2011 4:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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