2011 Lacrosse National Title Game: Maryland-Virginia Open Thread
by Ben Broman on May 30, 2011 2:00 PM EDT
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Happy Memorial Day, everyone. I don't know if you've heard, but it's been a long time since the Maryland men's lacrosse team won a national title. Like, 36 years.
With any luck, that streak will be ending today. The normally snake-bitten Terps are in their first national title game since 1998, taking on Virginia this afternoon at 3:30. Watch it on ESPN.
The Terrapins have taken a tough road to get here. Coming into the tournament unseeded, they had to beat UNC at UNC, then top-ranked Syracuse, and then 5th-seeded Duke. UVA, meanwhile, hosted Bucknell before beating 2nd-seeded Cornell and 6th-seeded Denver. The big catalyst for the Cavaliers' run has been attacker Steele Stanwick, who's simply played out of his mind in the tournament, with 20 points in just three games.
The two teams met earlier in the year, a game that Maryland won. The Terrapin shooters were on fire in that matchup, and that type of performance may be a key in today's matchup, says InsideLacrosse:
In the first meeting, only five Maryland players registered points despite the Terps' putting up 12 goals and nine assists. Additionally, Maryland took 27 shots and Virginia keeper Adam Ghitelman made 11 saves - which means Maryland shooters only missed the cage four times all afternoon.
Virginia's zone defense has garnered a lot of attention for the way it's limited opposing offensive explosions, but its effectiveness against a Maryland team that is less about speed dodging and more about finding the proper spaces for set shots is questionable.
Open thread is here. Go Terps.
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We got this
Glad I have the day off so I can watch… hopefully its as fun as the puke game
If we’re able to dictate tempo and play our game (like NW did yesterday) I’m pretty confident we’ll have a natty
by T Free on May 30, 2011 2:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lacrosse on ESPN?
Big time!
RED NATION
by stripesean on May 30, 2011 2:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Bring it home, boys!
Thank God for lax, this has been on of the most boring sports weekends in a looong time. I never really liked UVA and their preppie, tie-wearing, snob-ass fans, but in light of recent events in basketball recruiting, today’s game has extra meaning. Go Terps!!!!
Maybe ESPN3 but not sure
RED NATION
by stripesean on May 30, 2011 2:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
hello lacrosse fans! who is ready for this!?!?
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First time watching lacrosse
And it may be my last if we don’t pull this out. Let’s gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
it is a great game
I think you will like it.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Stanwick
hard to stop him. He has carried them without the Brattons’.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I was out in town yesterday (I live in Annapolis) wearing a MD shirt
And I had 4 different people stop me and ask if I was going to the game today. They were all trying to get tickets. Is it true that M&T is sold out?
I have heard rumors.
would be great for the game if it was.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be surprised
Given the crowds that were at the semis and the close proximity of both fanbases. Go Terps!
by NeonParkTerp on May 30, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
how many of you are lacrosse first-timers?
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tell me what you think of the game!
we all want to see it grow in the college and pro ranks.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
No matter how they are dressed
they are dressed like douche bags.
by TonyOrlando78 on May 30, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Do they have any choice?
They are Virginia
by NeonParkTerp on May 30, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
Douche-baggery 101 is the UVA equivalent to Freshman Orientation
by TonyOrlando78 on May 30, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
are any of you guys Bayhawks fans?
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The only version of hurling i've ever played...
did not resemble lacrosse.
by TonyOrlando78 on May 30, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I play Gealic Football, but have had to do hurling a couple of times
But those wooden clubs frighten me.
Marisa
What do you think of the Terps ‘stalling’ tactics? Need to be cracked down on, or part of the game?
in college
they just need a shot clock. If they dont get one, anyone can do whatever they want stalling and no one should complain.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
With them red jerseys and black shorts...
our boys will be sweating like whores in church.
by CarolinaTerp on May 30, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It's too hot for me to work in the garden, I can't imagine with this pads on
But it’s for the natty, so you just get focused
Marisa, question.
Why do the offensive players sometimes run backward toward their own goal, and the defenders follow them?
why do they run backwards or why do the defenders follow them?
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm guessing the offense is substituting
I have no idea why the defenders follow.
substituting
yes, that is part of the process. why do the defenders follow them? because their job is to defend the offensive players/
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
But are they a threat from midfield?
They can be picked up at the upfield line (like the blue line in hockey)
no, not at all. great question.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Scorrrrrrrrre
1-0 Terps
RED NATION
by stripesean on May 30, 2011 3:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
By the way...
I know this may be a stupid question…but can lacrosse players leave college early (like football players) for the professional lacrosse league?
if they get drafted, sure.
but you rarely see players leave school to play there.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
thats what Im here for :)
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Im fielding first-timer questions here too, btw.
http://www.inlaxwetrust.com/2011/5/30/2197436/virginia-vs-maryland-open-gamethread
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cant wait for then
when he goes to the MLL.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes!
UVAs goal was waved off
RED NATION
by stripesean on May 30, 2011 3:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
the crease?
nope, not at any level.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
1-0 Terps with 5:55 to go in the 1st
RED NATION
damn does college need a shot clock.
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MLL has a 1:00 shot clock
and it is so much better. great pace to the game.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
Been a boring few games. I’ll take boring and a win, but if this was any other team, the tactics would piss me off.
Oh well, it’s legal.
it would draw in such a bigger crowd.
college is already bigger than pro but they could get even better with a better pace. and more college fans equal more pro fans which equals growing the game.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
At least KA...
doesn’t have it as bad as Gee from Ohio State!
by CarolinaTerp on May 30, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
What are the rules for subs?
Are you limited in when you can put them in and how many times per game?
you have nine players on the field.
three have to be behind the center field line or it is offsides. same goes for subs, six and three on one side of the field.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
any of you follow the pro game?
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I can't lie...
No. Only time it’s ever on tv is the title game.
by CarolinaTerp on May 30, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
MLL or NLL?
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally, I don't
But I’m not a big lax fan. I’m not from MD originally, so I didn’t have the exposure to the game that many Terps do. I know there are a few big lax fans on the site, but none are here in the gamethread. Guessing they’re at the game, actually.
I like all the first time fans here.
great to teach them the game. my site has less of a following so I dont get to teach the game as much so this is great!
closest team you guys have is the Chesapeake Bayhawks who won the MLL championship last season.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not a big fan either...but getting there.
I went to Anne Arundel Community College for two years and shared an apartment with two lacrosse players. They taught me lacrosse…I taught them baseball. Then I transferred to Salisbury U…another huge lacrosse school…won their 9th Division III Championship yesterday. I do enjoy watching it…and anything Maryland plays for the National Championship in, I’m watching.
by CarolinaTerp on May 30, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
try box lacrosse
now that is exciting.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
for you new fans-
some gameday links here of good sites for college lax stuff http://www.inlaxwetrust.com/2011/5/30/2196594/lax-links-college-game-day
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It is really hot here at M&T. Sea of red though, and there was a nice Niko chant going.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
120 on the field?!? The big screen here says 99 right now. It is crazy hot. But still alot of fun being in the lax capital of the world.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
A one goal lead isnt enough
How about 5-0 by the end of the half
Well, he is also wearing a huge chest protector, so that makes him look bigger.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
Ah, that explains a lot
Still looks a little bigger than Ghitleman, but that makes a lot more sense.
He is a oompa loompa.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
by Mr MaLoR on May 30, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he is a great goaltender.
one of the real reasons they are here.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
just adding to your point.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
you guys might like this
http://www.inlaxwetrust.com/2011/5/6/2157443/100-things-to-know-as-a-new-lacrosse-fan
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks M.I.
Will check it out at Halftime and after the game.
you dont see many lax teams held to no goals :)
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it me...
or can Sean McDonough make any sport sound exciting??
he is a great announcer.
as a Red Sox fan I wish I got to hear him when he used to do their games.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Him and the other guy have done a great job covering the tourney.
Play no favorites…just call it like they see it. And very knowledgeable about the sport.
by CarolinaTerp on May 30, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
he has done his research, no doubt.
great ESPN has this game, they have done a great job growing it.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
why arent their more huge hits?
its seems like bodies should be flying all the time
whoever is closer gets it.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
so Im thinking you like the game? :)
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
That's awesome
In Gaelic football, they stop play if there’s a foul. It sucks. We’ve had fast breaks/goals called back because our guy got fouled. I like letting people play on.
Marisa...
what’s the most extreme penalty you can get in lacrosse?
question answered above.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I will have an AQA tomorrow for you guys too if you want.
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Damn...gotta go back to work tomorrow.
But sounds great. Thanks for all the info and insight.
by CarolinaTerp on May 30, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
no problem
drop one in tomorrow if you can, it will be all day.
my job is to grow the game, happy to help :)
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
What site do I go on to post a question?
by CarolinaTerp on May 30, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
inlaxwetrust.com
that is my site. I cover pro and college lacrosse. it will start tomorrow morning at 10 am.
last one I did was about three months ago and it did pretty good. site has grown since though so Im expecting more questions.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
correct
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
last year was the lowest scoring championship in history.
and now this. we NEED a shot clock.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I sure do hate UVA
I’m no LAX expert, but seems like MD owned the 1st qtr and UVA is showing a lot more life/offense in the 2nd.
by Dave Tucker on May 30, 2011 4:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
pretty goal there. good passing.
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Shit...
that was a sweet play for the goal, though.
Another goal UVA
4-3. Niko’s struggled in the 2nd after that great first quarter. Great play by UVA, of course.
Am I alone in thinking
the sun is hurting our goalie?
I like Turtles!
why would'nt it hurt Ghitleman then?
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
true
but he didnt give up much in the first.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm thinking the same thing.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Kerry Boykins and Danny O'Brien are both tweeting about the game
DOB I expected … he’ll watch any sport we play. Boykins was a pleasant surprise.
Briggs playing out of his mind.
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The way the ball moves around
Reminds me a bit of soccer. Pass back and forth a lot at the top, poking and prodding the defense, looking for a hole and point of attack.
And damnit.
field is a bit like soccer there.
but I hate soccer so it has differences.
Field and box are sooo different.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He's actually a friend of mine
He’s a tank at FIFA too.
I like Turtles!
5-3 at half
Things fell apart in Q2 there. Need a regroup.
Really, they were getting great looks all game long. When Niko stopped making crazy saves, they started scoring. He needs some more help. Hopefully he gets his wits about him at half.
Would someone please tell
Warrior lax – that they have the stupidest, most annoying, lax commercials?
Makes lax fans look bad.
I hate the perception they give us.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Great job by ESPN here at the Half.
I’ll never play lacrosse, but good info to understand while watching.
They have come so far within the year.
the game is growing.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Time for full disclosure
I’ve always thought that the sport itself is pretty cool. Fast paced, physical, tactical… all good. Growing up in MD and spending a lot of time in upstate NY, those are 2 big centers of lacrosse. But I have a hard time getting past how… preppy lacrosse is. Living in Annapolis hasn’t helped to change my bias. It seems to be largely white, privileged private school kids. I’d love to have this preconception shattered.
Sadly
everyone thinks this. You need to follow some pro lacrosse. Follow some Canadian leagues or the National Lacrosse League. Far different from the field game.
These dumb warrior commercials only help people with your opinion. Single reason why the game has not expanded to its potential.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the input
Again, it’s my (and a few of my friends) preconceptions. I love the history of lacrosse. The fact that it’s a native american sport is awesome to me. But my perception of lacrosse being played by snotty rich kids puts it into the category of something belonging to the UVAs and Dooks of the world. However, watching this game is going a long way to changing how I feel about it :)
That is a good thing
again, try box lacrosse. That whole idea will go away.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Andrew Sharp wrote a piece about the Love tragedy at the mothership
http://www.sbnation.com/2010/5/6/1459030/george-huguely-yeardley-love-uva-lacrosse-murder
It explores that same idea. Interesting read, definitely worth it.
That's why it was sad to see this happen to the Bratton twins
They wrote a new page in the book of lacrosse. Being incredibly hyped, probably the two best midfielders for their incoming class, and going to UVA. But through all of that, they were black, in this sport that doesn’t see many blacks on the field. GRowing up on Long Island, I had seen them play a few times, and along with me, you had alot of people watching lacrosse tat you wouldn’t normally see there. Sad to see them being dismissed from the team.
Chazz Woodson and Johnny Christmas
only guys in the MLL I can think of.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
nope
lots of Canadians in the NLL though.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Hello again everybody.
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Where are the hits we had against puke
by T Free on May 30, 2011 4:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Duke was soft.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Time to start laying some lumber. Pick up the hitting Terps
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!
smoke'em if ya got'em!
by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 4:59 PM EDT reply actions
Was hoping the half would allow Niko to calm down and reset
That quick goal won’t help at all with that.
Hey, whatever happened to Travis Reed?
Wasn’t he supposed to be like the next big thing? Then had the DUI stuff?
They just need one little spark to get them going
lack of energy and enthusiasm throughout the team right now
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!
smoke'em if ya got'em!
by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 5:04 PM EDT reply actions
dumb question I should know-
is he a senior?
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I somehow forgot with Catalino haha.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
there is a goal. for Maryland, one at a time.
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I love that
Drops his hands and just rips it. Goal Terps!
did you see my link up in the thread?
100 things for new lax fans to know?
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you
I figure that thing should get some use :)
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
it would help you a lot.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 30, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys I gotta get going. Thanks for letting me in here to talk lacrosse. Hope to see you on the AQA tomorrow and during some pro games maybe this season.
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Very surprised about the low attendance
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!
smoke'em if ya got'em!
by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions
Alright. Need to score on the man advantage...
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by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 5:20 PM EDT reply actions
took a look at box lacrosse highlights during that commercial
looks like it’s very similar to hockey. there was even a fight in the minute of video that i watched. awesome
No shit.
Somebody needs to give them the “Pearl Harbor” speech from Animal House…stat!
by CarolinaTerp on May 30, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
BOOM Baby
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by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
And a flag...
will we be man up here too???
no it cancels out since we scored
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by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Young stepping up when we need it!
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!
smoke'em if ya got'em!
by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 5:27 PM EDT reply actions
ugh
we’ll be facing the sun in the fourth
maybe I’m nuts, but I think it’s kiiling us.
I like Turtles!
Damn that sun haha
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!
smoke'em if ya got'em!
by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Surprised Tillman didn't take a TO
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by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
shit
that was good d too, got a stick on it
Damn Damn Damn
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smoke'em if ya got'em!
by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 5:36 PM EDT reply actions
Holmes needs a faceoff win
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by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 5:36 PM EDT reply actions
Just go hit them
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by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 5:37 PM EDT reply actions
dont comment that often but was wonderin
what excactly does a stall warning do?
Doesn't let them out of the "attacking zone"
The white box inside the outer one.
So, essentially nothing.
have to keep it in the box … essentially doesnt do anything if a team can handle the ball.
by brooklynterps on May 30, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
This sucks
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!
smoke'em if ya got'em!
by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 5:48 PM EDT reply actions
Idk I feel like we were outcoached
because we definitely have more talent then them today
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!
smoke'em if ya got'em!
by Daniel Hamilton on May 30, 2011 5:50 PM EDT reply actions
Still a great year...look forward to watching again next year.
Enjoyed chatting with everyone. Guess that puts a wrap on this year. You all have a great Summer. Football season is next…
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