Former Maryland Pledge Justin Anderson Switches Commitment to Virginia
by Ben Broman on May 26, 2011 10:11 AM EDT
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What's been rumored (and driving Maryland fans crazy) for a solid week now is now solidified: a dozen or so sources are all saying Anderson is going to Charlottesville, including Montrose Christian themselves (via Facebook, of course):
Justin stated "The Cavaliers were always my second choice behind Maryland. Also, my family lives in Virginia. After the departure of Coach [Gary] Williams and Coach [Robert] Ehsan it just feels like the right fit."
I'd be really interested to see just how much he allowed new head man Mark Turgeon to recruit him. Turge made a comment a few days ago that certain recruits weren't giving him a chance, and Anderson, based on how abruptly this all happened, might be the guy he's referencing.
(Just as a note here: yeah, it was a questionable decision, but it was his. No point in asking "Why would he go to UVA?" because that doesn't matter. All that matters is that he's there. So let's focus on Maryland now, eh?)
Some fans will freak out about this, or have been doing it already, but that's something I advise against. For as good as Anderson was, he wasn't irreplaceable. Back when he committed, despite the obvious commitment high at the time, the most apt comparison was still "a rich man's Byron Mouton." And don't get me wrong: Mouton was great. You need a player like that to win championships. But they're not exactly tough to find.
Cases in point: Jerami Grant and Arnaud Moto. Both are local wings, both a little under the radar, and both shot above Anderson in the most recent ESPN rankings. Anderson's game is mostly limited to his athleticism and attitude, both of which he has in bunches, but his offensive game is limited and, frankly, run-and-jump wings are pretty commonplace.
It's a bad thing, of course, and don't pretend I'm saying it's not. Anderson was a legitimate 4-star or low 5-star recruit in the bag. That's a better scenario than ... well, almost anything else. But it isn't a death blow, especially with a staff as heavy on recruiters as Maryland has.
Anyway, Maryland is now looking at six scholarships in the 2012 class. Sleeper guard Seth Allen claims one of those, leaving another five for the rest of the year, at least two of which I'd like the staff to save for the 2013 class (but that's just me).
With Anderson off the board, they'll start targeting wings heavily (in reality, they've already been doing this for a week or so). The two local wings are Grant and Moto, and I've warmed to both very quickly. Grant exploded this spring and has found aggression to pair with his absurd length. Moto, meanwhile, has a college-ready body and a more varied offensive game than Anderson. Other guys, like maybe Marcus Smart and Twymond Howard, could be on the radar as well. There isn't a lack of options.
More than anything, though, I'm just kind of happy it's finally over.
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Sucks,
But it’s time to move on. At least we had some notice and it happened early in the recruiting process. If we can still land Shaq and maybe JA’s replacement (Moto, Grant) we will be in just as good of shape as when JA committed. I wish the kid luck, but there is no point in being hung up on this.
His choice to make.
Home is where the heart is. You can’t blame the kid. With a new coach comes change, both ways……..
by TwerpsNoMore on May 26, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
#1 Priority
Has been and continues to be Cleare. 2012 is a good to great for MD if they add Cleare and another PF/C as well. Pairing McGary with Cleare would be the dream but Cleare and another 4 star big would be a great duo.
I hope that JA landing at UVA does not become a bitchfest about how the Terps should have kept Ehsan. Turgeon seems to be setting up the program for long term success and not panicing about one 2012 recruit who is at a position which is probably one of the easiest to fill in college basketball.
Nice
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on May 26, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
unlike fg, I predict positive outcomes
and if this one comes true, even if a distant chance, we’ll all be wearing these shirts:
“Shaq and Mac Attack”
Snappin’, Scrappin’ Terrapin staff will get it done – somehow, someway…
I view this tricky transition from Coach Williams like having a start-up company…you hit many bumps and detours along the way, but it’s how you avoid the bumps, make the turns around detours, and adapt that matters as you get to the destination.
I feel our staff will get us to the destination we all crave…
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Why all the niceness?... I'm sorry but I now consider this guy a traitor
I know people can say I’m a hater, but that’s not true… I’m a lover of Maryland Basketball and I’m fiercely loyal to my team. So, this guy comes out and commits to us and blah blah blahs about how much he loves Maryland and then turns around and GOES TO OUR RIVAL!!!??? He is a flat out traitor and it’s not hating.. it’s loving.
It’s gonna be painful for you at Comcast son. bad move
I know why you're upset
But when did Anderson say he loved Maryland so much? Seriously, this has been flying around like it’s fact but I can’t find anything where he said “I grew up loving Maryland” or “they were my favorite team” etc. I’m not saying he didn’t say that, I’m just asking someone to “show me the money” so to speak before people start assuming it’s true…
by Dave Tucker on May 26, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
This Post item
in the Recruiting Insider says “Maryland has been Anderson’s favorite for some time,” but may just mean his favorite of the teams that were recruiting him:
And Turge is coming from A&M, maybe that's it.
No self-respecting Longhorn fan would ever wanna play for an Aggie. Lol
by 1 proud terp on May 26, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Show Me The Money
Not so sure that there is a 100% “show me the money” quote floating out their in cyberspace attributed to JA which confirms his previous unadulterated love of University of Maryland. However, there are tons of quotes which taken in conjunction with one another and within the context of the quote that certainly gave many fans the impression that JA was clearly enamored with Maryland.
For instance, in a March interview with Jeff Barker of the Baltimore Sun, JA was quoted as, “They just started standing out, obviously because of the location, my family being close by, and I think it’s just perfect for me and my family.”
Clearly, when you say a place is perfect for you that implies feelings of endearment.
He furthered this sentiment in the same interview with Jeff Barker by saying, “I can’t wait to show them how much of a Maryland player [I am], and how committed I’ll be to the program when I get there,” Anderson said.
Quotes from this interview can be accessed via: Recruiting Report: Terps land Montrose Christian’s Justin Anderson
The things he had posted on Twitter prior to his ‘official re-considering’ and ultimately his ‘de-commitment’ also implied much love for Maryland.
If there is was a growing sentiment amongst TT board members that JA LOVED MD – it was certainly steeped in something more than our fickle desire for our players to love our school as much as we do, and I believe his actions, tweets, interview quotes and more provide a picture of a young man who seriously loved MD!
Obviously, this is untrue, and at this moment, a moot point. However, to question posters when they state JA’s previous affinity for MD is blatantly antagonistic, and ignoring a proliferation of media clips out there that support this sentiment is well, unaware.
At best JA is a fickle 17 year old, and at worst a hypocrite who blatantly feed followers and fans mouth service. Posters on TT should be encourage to share their opinions, even if divergent from yours, and pveetvee did so in a manner that is befitting of the situation.
by E$ on May 26, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
JA
What is he 16. He is a fickle kid. When a coach and the majority of his staff leave a kid has every right and should look at where he is committed.
What is more worrisome to me is the relationship that UMD has with Montrose Christian now. I felt like it used to be a pipeline. But with JA and Ross both reneging on their verbals I don’t know how strong the connection is now. (Also, IMO what Ross did was selfish and showed a lack of intelligence. JA made a decision after the coach he was coming to play for stepped down.)
This
Couldn’t agree more. And honestly, I can’t even fault Ross that much. He’s a west coast kid.
by Dave Tucker on May 26, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Dave
I fault Ross because wanted the security of a verbal with MD while he shopped around. Going into November signing period MD had a spot held for Ross when they could have been looking for another player to sign to take his place.
As much as it pains me to say, I watched Washington in the Pac 10 tournament and I think Ross could have really helped MD this year. He came on at the end of the season and was an athlete who played well in the open court. MD could have really used another scorer at times this year.
Honestly I wish none of these kids ill will. We forget that they are all 16-18 years old when they make this decision and many times have a lot of outside influences who do not have their best interests in mind.
I agree that Ross would have helped MD this past year
But forget him, Tobias Harris would have helped last year’s team MUCH more. Granted, Ross was already committed whereas Harris committed and stayed elsewhere, but still.
Ross wanted to play with Jones, too...
but then Jones stiffed him in the end and went to the Devil in Ky
Hey, I see what you guys are saying except...
This kid is missing an important point in life… it’s called loyalty… and it’s just a fact that by committing to us and then de-commiting and going to our hated rival, he is now instilling the worst possible feelings for him with our fans. 16 year old kids can stand trial for murder, so I’m not cutting him any breaks. I remember when Nate James was labeled a traitor and was boo’d his entire career whenever he came to Maryland. Believe me… NOBODY is gonna have any symapthy for this kid…. and I plan to be one of the people who will be rattling his cage at Comcast. He didn’t even give Turgeon a chance.
UVA
Since when was UVA our hated rival? Duke yes. NC State for as long as Yow is around. But UVA? We have owned them for years.
Their is no comparison between committing murder at 16 and decommitting from a verbal to play college basketball.
Kids come for coaches. That is how the game is played. And the flip side of the coin is that coaches (Turgeon included) leave their schools and the kids who they recruited to play for them.
Long term JA made a mistake for himself. But when November signings are over if MD has Cleare, a 4 star PF, Allen, and another SF, I will be more than happy.
To me, anyone in the ACC is a hated rival
I respect your opinion, but there are just rabid fans out there like me that are going to see this guy as a traitor…. nobody’s saying there’s a comparison to committing murder, I’m just saying that at 16, yes, you are accountable for your own decisions. So, you have nice guys like you that will cut him a break… and guys like me who won’t. I just won’t … I’m sorry… he teased us and then went to our direct competition and will hear it from lots of us.
if it means anything to you
I agree—I don’t maliciously hate the kid or wanna make sweeping judgments about his personality but let’s be honest, this kid is gonna get it from us when he comes to comcast and he is absolutely nothing but an enemy. We can sit here all day and “wish him the best of luck” and all this soft shit or we can just be honest with ourselves and be pissed off
by PAB522 on May 26, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's not soft
I still wished JA well, but it’s understood when he comes to town, we’re gonna be doing what we do to give to him just like any other player, plus a little bit extra thrown in for good measure. It can be hard all the way…
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Same here
I wished him luck now, but when he steps his foot into Comcast I am going to boo him and hope he goes 0 for 30.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on May 26, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
JA KNOWS what to expect
that’s the fun of it…a good player will rise above it…and a weak one will falter and fall on their face…we will boo for the fall!
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
you're kidding right?
What kind of a basketball fan are you lol. “I hate… every team we play that isn’t named Maryland”
We lost the two main factors that brought him to the school. Changing his mind because of that isn’t teasing then ditching, it’s completely understandable. I expect most of us would do the same in his situation.
Rival? ehhhh
Couldn’t possibly agree more….JA is a great piece to a championship team because you don’t have to run any offense for him. He’ll get his in transition and crashing the boards all while locking down the best offensive option from the other team. But to consider UVA our hated rival is sort of like considering your little brother, who you have beaten down for years and years on end, your rival. Would have hated it MUCH more had he gone to Puke. Congrats to Justin, and enjoy taking the air out of the ball and scoring 55 points per game as a team.
We've owned UVA?
Not so much. Three out of the last 4 years, they beat us the last game of the regular season, in most cases with the effect of putting us at or below .500 in conference. UVA swept the solid 2007 team, else we would have won the regular season. I remember those games vividly.
this is a completely different situation
he committed to play for gary. not only is gary gone, but so is rob ehsan – the man that recruited him. his loyalty is to them. you can’t fault him for wanting to do what is best for his future. I wish he would have given turgeon a chance, and I’m not sure uva is the best place for his style of play, BUT this is his decision. keep in mind it’s also early in the process and it’s only a verbal commitment.
once he steps on the court, it’s game on. I, too, hope we manhandle uva so he knows what he missed out on. I’m not going to call him a traitor. at least he didn’t go to duke.
How can you say that.
He was committed to Gary and Ehsan and Maryland and then 2 of 3 vanish in smoke and than we call him diloyal. Ross I agree went against his loyalties because nothing on our side changed.
Ross tied up a scholly for 8 months
well into the signing period. I don’t care how old you are, ethics come in to play. Selfish is selfish. But in the end its the players decision and I respect that. He was a west coast guy who made the decision to play HS basketball on the East Coast and had been here for almost a year before committing to MD.
illogical
@pveetvee said,
“Why all the niceness?… I’m sorry but I now consider this guy a traitor
I know people can say I’m a hater, but that’s not true… I’m a lover of Maryland Basketball and I’m fiercely loyal to my team. So, this guy comes out and commits to us and blah blah blahs about how much he loves Maryland and then turns around and GOES TO OUR RIVAL!!!??? He is a flat out traitor and it’s not hating.. it’s loving.
It’s gonna be painful for you at Comcast son. bad move"
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pveetvee, you are an illogical hater. I don’t refute that you love Maryland, as we all do here. But that has nothing to do with you being or not being a hater. You are ignoring the fact that these PEOPLE are making their own life decisions. Maryland is not at war and Maryland is not a religion or country. It is a university with a basketball program and JA is not coming here. Just let it go. UVA is NOT our rival, just another ACC school that we’re better than.
by testudo4lunch on May 26, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
But see... testudo4lunch ... that is YOUR opinion.. this is mine
To me, Maryland Basketball IS my religion, and this country allows freedom of religion… and this is just the way I feel… illogical to you… makes perfect sense to me.
I don’t really know which side I fall on with this debate. On one hand, he has every right to ask out of his commitment with a coaching change. I would probably do the same if I were in his position. It’s smart and it shows you’re serious about your choice.
What I do fault him for are the things he did to handle his commitment decision. He didn’t give turgeon a chance to recruit him, really only announcing his plans to look at the virginia schools the day before the dead period and then committing before it ends, and teasing UMD fans on twitter. If you’re leaning towards UMD and retweet a ton of terp love, go for it, but if you’re just jerking everyone around to stroke your own ego, you’re a dick.
MASN Announcer: "Ususally they have what they call here 'the privilege,' and that's what bobby cox calls it when he let's the veteran guys swing away on 3-0. This is not such a hitter."
Jason Heyward: Single up the middle, ballgame.
He didn't have to ask out of his commitment
He is only a Junior and it was just a verbal commitment.
And I think if you are hanging onto every last word that a 16 year old posts on twitter and then calling him a dick on message boards….well, yeah.
fine, decommit. whatever. The kid reconsidered his decision, that’s the part that I have no problem with.
I’m not hanging on his every word. The kid doesn’t have 1700 followers because of his sharp wit, it’s because some people care about their college basketball teams enough to follow recruiting. It’s the one primary source that any of us really have rather than waiting on second-hand news from some media outlet or “insider”. Twitter is a public forum, one where he was giving indications that he was still considering maryland, when in fact he never gave turgeon a chance to recruit him. I just think he went about this very unprofessionally and I have every right to judge him for that.
MASN Announcer: "Ususally they have what they call here 'the privilege,' and that's what bobby cox calls it when he let's the veteran guys swing away on 3-0. This is not such a hitter."
Jason Heyward: Single up the middle, ballgame.
Best things terps fans can do
Is unfollow him, maybe tweet something PG to him like “wish you stayed a terp it could have been great” and leave it be. It might make him think when he’s down at 500 followers because he loses all terp fans
He's not a professional!
Being pissed at a 16 year old amateur for being unprofessional sounds a little ridiculous. I understand how excited people were to see him in College Park, but why not get mad at Gary for retiring? Or Turgeon for not hiring Ehsan? Those are the reasons Anderson is leaving. Not because he is a traitor and wanted to mess with Maryland fans’ heads.
acting professional and being a professional are different things. For the sake of this argument, switch “professional” to “dignified” or “courteous” or something like that. I don’t mean this in the sense that he gets paid to play basketball as a career.
I’m not mad that he left UMD. I wasn’t mad at faust for re-opening his commitment or mad at gibbs or breunig for choosing somewhere else. I’ve seen de-commitments before and I’m sure I’ll see them again. I just think he went about the process wrong.
MASN Announcer: "Ususally they have what they call here 'the privilege,' and that's what bobby cox calls it when he let's the veteran guys swing away on 3-0. This is not such a hitter."
Jason Heyward: Single up the middle, ballgame.
Better than Duke
It takes a team to win, not JA and 4 would-be back ups.
by Maryland Pride on May 26, 2011 10:24 AM EDT reply actions
forget ja
Time to hit the unfollow button on twitter. Finally!
On to the next one. And hill > rob and will find us another player to replace ja.
Atleast he didn’t go to duke. I will be very interested to see how he performs in comcast. I’m predicting he never get a win there.
by Charlotte NC Terp on May 26, 2011 10:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Turgeon never had a chance
This seems to answer this question..
“I’d be really interested to see just how much he allowed new head man Mark Turgeon to recruit him.”
Mustangs coach Stu Vetter said in the school’s statement that "Mark Turgeon wanted to begin recruiting him, [but] Justin and his family decided to conclude the process. We look forward to developing a relationship with the new coaching staff at the University of Maryland."
So Turgeon never got a shot to recruit JA and Vetter is waiting to be wowed by the new staff at UMD.
I'm glad ...
That Vetter said that. It sounds like he was still lobbying for Maryland to be considered and it was all JA who wanted to move on. I was worried about Montrose-UM going forward because of Hill, but it sounds like Vetter wants to play ball.
Stu said
Justin’s personality was perfect for UMD, like Greivis’ in some ways…but its’ JA’s life…
I can wish him well, hope they upset Duke and UNC for us as we wax all of them and take the ACC crown some years :)
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
i love me some JA
but much more concerned about UMD’s relationship with Montrose
by bloodwatermission on May 26, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I've not heard that there's a problem.
Stu Vetter was EMBARRASED about the Ross affair. Haven’t heard anything about his reaction to JA’s switch, but this kind of thing is the rule with a coaching change, so I doubr if it’s going to cause much of a stir.
I would love so much
for in 2012-2015 us to just blow UVA out of the water every time we play and on a national level. With turgeon and company we will be compteting for sweet 16s and final 4s every year and UVA will be….in the NIT. It will be great when JA comes home to Rockville and all he hears about is the hype surrounding MD. Here’s to him regretting his decsion 4 years down the road.
by terp121 on May 26, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully
we’ll get some good recruiting news this weekend, with quiet period over!!
Best of luck to JA
Time for us to move on and stop having to see everyone of his damn tweets on here. Go Terps!
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
yes, I wished him well
He’s a good kid. He didn’t ask for the circumstance presented to him, but felt the need to adapt his plans…it’s part of the business…
http://twitter.com/JDotAnderson23/status/73759675811766273
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
How about Terrence Jennings 2.0?
I’ve become super cynical about these early verbals from blue-chippers. From now on, I’ll believe it when I see them coming out of the tunnel in a Terp uni and not a moment sooner.
Still, this one’s definitely different from Jennings & Jones. Can’t blame the kid for going elsewhere after the coaching turnover.
I like what I see from Turgeon and think the Terps are better positioned than ever for recruiting in the future. Fear the Turtle!
On To The Next One
As many of you have said, this is a big blow, but not the end of the world. There are plenty of talented SFs in the 2012 class and many of them in this area. It’s time to see what Hill and Bino can really do. This will be a test to see how well their connections and recruiting know how pays off.
I think this was a horrible decision for JA, but he made it. UVA doesn’t have the rich bball tradition like MD and they have NO NBA players in the league right now. He did what he had to under the circumstances, but I think it will prove to be a bad move. We OWN Uva and will continue to do so. There is no comparison between our programs.
He would’ve gotten limited playing time at Duke, let’s be honest.
Here’s to Grant or Moto! Does anyone know if either has twitter? Time to follow and pander…lmao
stupid move by Anderson...
why choose UVA…I would have went to a Big East school. More exposure over there and becoming a star in the BE automatically mean you are going to get drafted…
UVA NOT our rival
UVA hasn’t been our rival for a long time. I bet after the first couple games of Bennett slow it down basketball and JA playing power forward, he will regret his dicision. But, it is his to make. Tech would have been a better choice for him.
hold on everybody
UVA still has a full calendar year to get in trouble and/or fire their head coach. Ha-ha stranger things have happened
"We're Maryland, we don't play no stink'in 2 for 1s!"
by CarolinaTerrapin on May 26, 2011 11:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
that is a funny pull!
Good jub – I like it!
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
in an interesting way
outside of wishing JA well from a genuine standpoint, it’s good to keep it on good terms for that possibility – stranger things have happened is right! But UVa sticks with coaches way past their time – see J Jones, P Gillen….
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
funny, but you know
the guys are all one big basketball fraternity…they’ve been seeing each other at various camps, etc., through the years, so they already have relationships … Pe’ will want to beat UVa bad, but it’s not anything like you say…
The only time I wanted a player to mess someone up was when G Henderson delivered that deliberate elbow on Hansbrough…I wanted him to go “psycho” on him, but amazingly, he didn’t…
If anyone needs a pick me up, play Rosenburg’s videos today :)
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol
This is what Pe responded with…
“@cajunajan @JDotAnderson23 ill take that in a good way (#pause) n knows we goin at it in the #ACC plus he hasn’t beat me b4 #bigbrotweet”
that's good stuff
I’m glad u got to play around with the guys – see what I’m talkin’ about – a big fraternity of players – it amazes how they know so many other players…
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
To fuck his ass up
That is probably the worst teminoloogy you can use when trying to be intimidating.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on May 26, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No Ill Feelings
It is just business, but that doesn’t mean we can’t want to see UVA crushed every time they step foot on the court with MD. I wish JA all the best, but MD fuck his ass up when he gets to the ACC.
MOTO-PHOTO
Taking pictures of Arnuad posterizing scrubs since 2012.
by word2bigbird on May 26, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I rec'd you
B/c you Asian and we need more diversity.
by word2bigbird on May 26, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF!
Why would he lie to me like that?!?! Now my day is ruined!
by word2bigbird on May 26, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd
Yes I rec’d myself. Why you ask…because I’m awesome.
by word2bigbird on May 26, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
It's confirmed by Josh Barr in WaPo
JA said once Rob was gone, he decided he wouldn’t stay with Terps (or effectively give Coach T a chance)
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
extra side note...good to see
SV wants to start building a relationship with coach and staff…He definitely has been a FoG and FoUMD
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Stu vetter word is shit two years in a row he burnt us if last year we have ross we make the tourney… fool me once shame on u fool me twice shame on me lets build a relationship with dematha and good counsel stu vetter players word aint shit and players take the identity of there coach.
by valenciais1 on May 26, 2011 2:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that's well and good if what you say is true
BUT It’s NOT…. T Ross drove Stu crazy – fact…
Not sure if Stu counseled or tried to counsel JA to give Turge a chance…could just be JA was tired of the recruiting process as SV was quoted, said the heck with it and jumped to his second choice…so be it, but your read of Stu is totally off base
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I probably im wrong about sv but thats what it looks like when i was in school he was the coach at st. Johns prospect hall and they were a beast but before my senior year he left
by valenciais1 on May 26, 2011 2:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't understand
How Ehsan was the sticking point – but then he verbals to UVa so quickly after wards? Why not let Ehsan get his feet wet and see if its a good situation before you re-commit?
becuz of the baldie cannot get to the show
syndrome…lmao
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Time to move on
Cleare, McGary, Jefferson, and the Harrison twins. Lets get those guys in some UMD UA uniforms in the future.
JA was good but there are a lot of SF’s who can play.
Here's my fave part of teh WaPo article
Anderson visited Charlottesville last week and there was some thought he would also consider Virginia Tech, which this week announced the hiring of Ehsan as an assistant to Seth Greenberg.
"We thought about it," Anderson said. "We ended up not doing it for our own personal issues."
TRANSLATED: OMG, how does ANYBODY go to school that far in the middle of nowhere?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
UVA not even top 3 Virginia basketball school.
George Mason, VCU, Richmond, and VA Tech…why are they in the ACC again???
by ATLredskin on May 26, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
true...true...+1
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
They are
The original 8 ACC members are MD, UNC, Duke, WF, NCST, UVA, USC and Clemson.
Also, I wouldn’t put VCU, Richmond or George Mason as better “basketball schools”. Sure, those 3 schools have had some success in the past 5-7 years, while UVA really hasn’t. But putting them ahead of UVA in terms of a basketball school is a little much.
UVA only has made the NCAA tournament twice in the past 13 years, but they do have pretty good history. 2 Final Fours, 5 Elite Eight’s, 7 Sweet 16’s and 16 NCAA Tournament appearances.
They definitely have the potential to become a consistent NCAA tournament team. Maybe with Justin and there other good recruits coming in, they will be.
And personally, I want UVA to become a very good basketball team. The better the ACC, the better for us. And it would be nice to have a “rival” other then Duke that is consistently ranked. If Georgetown doesn’t happen, UVA getting better would help in creating or re-creating a good “rivalry” game.
So, at this point
What’s everyone’s realistic, best-case class for 2012?
Mine is Allen, Moto, Jefferson, Cleare.
I'd be happy with that
i think we have a pretty good shot at McGary too!!!
we have officially reached Turgeon's
blank slate moment. Today is the day that we can all starting criticizing and praising him. It is now going to be fun to watch.
Good luck turge
+1
crystal clear comment – way to distill it out and get our focus on future from today forward.
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure about that
Give him some time to build a team, aka, not until at least the 12-13 bball season. Gary’s retirement made next season an impossible one for any coach.
Faust is a rare breed, he is the last of the Gary recruits, and one who never got to play under Gary. Everyone from now on is a Turge recruit
by kryptonianjorel on May 26, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
I didn’t mean that – just means the staff can be reviewed from this day forward by who they bring in as recruits. It will take some time, but u will be surprised at how many inroads the staff makes for the 2012 class. This is a staff that is built to recruit…
Nick is going hard for us this year with our squad, and then some strong frosh will join our juniors for 2012-2013 to have a very good season.
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That's too bad
I was excited JA had committed so early and could help attract other talent and reconfirm the Montrose pipeline. He seemed like a good kid with loads of talent and sure looked good in Terps gear. I had hopes that he may still stick with the Terps after all the changes, but he’s got to make the best decision for him. My 17 year HS senior changes his mind all the time too, so I don’t hate him for going to UVA since he is from VA anyway. He only goes “home” to Rockville to go to Montrose. I wish he would have given Turge more of a chance and I wonder how much the “Hill” factor played in. Seems HIll has lots of great connections, but he must have some detractors as well. Sounds like JA was really torn with GDub and then Rob both leaving, but if Rob was such a big factor, I would think he would have looked harder at going to Tech. Baldie must be pissed he hired Rob and Rob did not deliver JA. Many people on here banged on Gary for being such a lousy recruiter, but 3 of his 4 commits did not stick around. Some guys really did want to play for and learn from a HOF bound coach. Hopefully Turge can build a solid relationship with Stu Vetter at Montrose and get his best kids headed to CP. I’m convinced we’re in good hands now and the future is bright for MD hoops…
In regards to Hill
I know its early, but being linked to one of the reasons why JA left is not a great way to start off at MD. You bring in a guy whose strength is recruting and yet right off the bat we lose a recruit do do a rocky relationship with Hill. Hill better start bringing in some guys.
Hate to hate on Ehsan
but is this an indication that he is not the great recruiter we thought. That being said I like the hill hire in loo of Ehsan anyway.
I think he's a good recruiter, but it's got to make life easier when you recruit for Gary
I’m sure it was a huge selling point when he could say, “Come to Maryland, we’ve got a HOFer you can play for who knows the X/O’s as well as, if not better than, anyone else.” As opposed to, “Come to VT, we’ve got a NITer you can play for who knows how to choke in important games and complain to the NCAA.”
by callmecostanza on May 26, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
why wouldnt he look at VT
if he was so tied to Ehsan?
by bloodwatermission on May 26, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions
Hold on now
I’m no Va. Tech apologist, but obviously SOME people don’t mind living there. They have over 30k students. Not quite as many as UMD, but they still have a ton of kids there.
the joke goes
that it’s becuz UVa turns away so many students….blah blah blah I want to drill them both as bad as always…
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The more things change
The more they remain the same. Turgeon like Gary will win with whatever talent comes his way.
by PaTerp on May 26, 2011 2:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
huh?:
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on May 26, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Jerami Grant
Didn’t he verbal to NC State? Also, once again, we are not mentioned at all by him. He has no interest in us. Just because he is local (Dematha) and a good player, does not mean he will come here. Stop bringing up random players just because they are good. Moto won’t even come here.
huh?
Raylew, again? U R an inconsistent poster….That was a different player who gave the verbal to the Pack…see if you can find out his name, but it’s not Jerami Grant! Just beause you say Moto won’t come here, doesn’t mean it’s accurate…there’s a chance here as good as a bunch of other schools…
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
No, he didn't
And he has been mentioned a lot of times about receiving interest from MD.
Grant has been receiving large amounts of interest from many schools including Texas, Maryland, Marquette, and the reigning national champion– UConn Huskies.
DeMatha Coach Mike Jones says that Mark Turgeon "has a very good relationship from his Kansas days and Big 12 days with the Grant family. They showed interest in Jerami at an early age."
Jerami was very high on Maryland and Gary Williams before he decided to retire.
Maybe do a little research before you post ridiculous things on there.
by aholla30 on May 26, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
ditto
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
JA still won't make UVA a good team
by stripesean on May 26, 2011 3:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Let's see what happens
Just wondering, what do you guys actually think our recruiting class will be? It’s pathetic that you think we will have a top class
+1
MM may be in there in place of/or with AJ!!! Much better than the s raylew is dishing from the back of his limo!
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
many were sayin that about SJU...
raylew goin’ from a doubter to hater….
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
and exactly why won't we get AJ or MM?
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we will get
Allen, Cleare, Moto, and someone that we have never heard of.
AJ and MM
I think Amile goes to Villanova or Ohio State. It’s tough to pry Philly kids out of that area. MM wanted to come to us and clearly we chose JA over him. Why would he want to be someone’s plan B? Also, I think he is gauging too much interest from other top schools. Obviously this is just an opinion, maybe ill informed and negative, but as a fan, I do not want to already be talking about starting line ups in 2012, which include these players. Pretty sure people talked about Faust and JA all the time and look how that turned out. Its tough to get excited until it actually happens or else you will be upset.
Tough to pry Philly kids?
Then why would he go clear across PA all the way to Ohio State when we’re only two hours away? No logic raylew…
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 27, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It is true that we have a weak Philly connection though.
And I would be OK not getting Amile if we could replace him with someone comparable……..and don’t say Goodman!
Jefferson has some weak mixtapes
No longer want him
RED NATION
yes, didn't dawn on me but you're close
Plus, i was thinkin’ more like Bubbles… lmao
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
plus you got me thinking how recruiting is related to The Wire
McNulty’s quote in season 5: “There are no rules…The Game is f’n rigged…”
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
"The game is rigged yo"
-Bodie
by TerpMasterX on May 26, 2011 9:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Westbrook from OKC Thunder
looks like Bodie
Guess who said this?
Also parallels recruiting:
“I’ll do what I can to help y’all. But, the game’s out there, and it’s play or get played. That simple.”
"firegary, go sit under the basket at one of FCHS's games next year so...
Seth can flush one right down your throat you little trouble making hatin’ weasel…"
by bball purist on May 26, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be Omar.
Shoulda been an assistant HC/recruiter with those words of wisdom
by terpsfan06 on May 26, 2011 5:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We're doing this again?
Not a post goes by without mentioning the Wire.
Crab cakes, MD Bball, and The Wire.
by word2bigbird on May 26, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
MM has some sick highlights
I want
RED NATION
by stripesean on May 26, 2011 5:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
AAM
Not MM. Unless by MM you mean Mitch McGary?
by word2bigbird on May 26, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
BEN -Jordan Goodman
Ben Broman: What do you know about Jordan Goodman? Is he done with Rutgers and Georgetown completely? Is he a 2011 option?
Not an option for 2011
Talented but has baggage – he’s been to 6 different HSes, IIRC, including a diploma mill down in Florida. Reclassified to 2012. Has skill, length, and athleticism, but also has issues with focus and decision-making. We have less-risky options right now.
Hate to be "that guy," but. . .
What does it matter what any of us think these kids will do? These kids are 16 or 17 years old. They will probably change their minds a few times before it’s time to sign a LOI. Heck, we even saw two of our recruits change their minds AFTER signing their LOIs this year.
We “thought” JA was coming to Maryland, so I don’t think we as fans really have any idea what these teenagers and their parents are going to do. Like my dad always said, “You know what thought did: **** itself.”
DeMatha Connection
We need Hill to concentrate on DeMatha players. Keep the best ones local. Good for the student and good for ticket sales. Plus, I hate losing to Georgetown!
alright ive kept my cool so far
but if he actually ends up at uva i will despise anderson
Lets gooo Maryland
That was before we got Hill
All we need is for Hill to get that first DC Assault commit and then we will be able to start reeling them in year after year.
Duke?
I’m just guessing. Please don’t make fun of me…
by worldwidewes on May 26, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
DCA
Come on dude you’re better than that.
by word2bigbird on May 26, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
Who on Duke’s staff has that DC Assault connection? Or is just the Duke aura luring them in?
by CurrentTerp3 on May 26, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Both Nate James and Johnny Dawkins are from DC and friendly with Assault
More importantly, it was Nolan Smith. They got Smith, and b/c DCA is tighter than the average AAU team, Smith got them everyone else, Cook especially.
f JA
but its all good! If Turg cant get Moto and signs some no name, no rank SF like Seth Allen, then I’mma be pissed!
Mitch McGary...
So, Dave Telep just wrote a profile on McGary about an hour ago (9:21pm) and has a bunch of schools listed, but NOT MD. There are also reports that he is taking an official to UK this weekend and an unofficial to UCONN next week. ARE WE ALREADY OUT OF THE PICTURE? Does anyone know what up?
by TerpMasterX on May 26, 2011 10:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wouldn't read too much into that
When a recruit is that highly-coveted, there are going to be some schools left off his list just because there are so many.
IMS reported yesterday that Mcgary wants to visit UMD. I would expect that visit to come after the NBA Top 100 camp in mid-June.
That's what I was hoping...
Now I can go to sleep.
by TerpMasterX on May 26, 2011 10:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Have to maintain perspective here.
Remember McGary EXPLODED on the scene. Last year he was a nobody. So he is probably overwhelmed and the big name schools are probably very appealing to him right now. But MD is on his radar and if he thinks about it he might see that MD could be his best bet in terms of competition, exposure, playing style, and immediate playing time. That doesn’t mean he will come here, just that if he puts some thought into it we should have as good a chance as anyone.
bbpurist is right, pairing McGary with Cleare could be deadly. Bigs inside out plus a bunch of shooting, penetrating guards.
Upshaw is an interesting prospect
RED NATION
by stripesean on May 27, 2011 10:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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