Gregg Doyel should be fired
by firegary on Apr 5, 2011 8:47 PM EDT
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he really should be fired by cbs sportsline as they are unprofessional and show how bias writing can be and rankings for that matter. Debbie yow is a joke as well. get over it. NC state is a middle of the pack job and you couldnt land anyone to come there even by throwing money at them. if anything this will motivate gary to continue to stick it to the wolfpack in the coming yrs. go gary. only terps fans can get on you about stuff......
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someone stole firegary's laptop and is posting contradictory comments.
call campus security.
Welcome back
Firegary you have found your way back to the fold. How long can we expect you to stay?
This is all part of firegary's master plan...
DONT BE FOOLED!!
by TerpMasterX on Apr 5, 2011 9:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
changing my name
to firedoyel…..once i figure out how to f-ing do it on here…ben any help?
I think you can change it by creating firedoyel
and then going to My Dashboard, then Edit Account, then Claim an older SB Nation blog account
this is ignorant
middle of the pack job? nc state has over 200 more wins in their history than maryland, and 1 more national championship. it’s fine to be angry about what Yow said, but the rest of that was silly and uninformed.
"I heard that Tits was "well rounded" and his brother Cans was a "stand out." :D"
by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 18, 2010 3:05 PM PDT
The thing is that is in its history
Right now, NC State is a middle of the pack job. NC State is the 3rd team in North Carolina, behind UNC and Dook. It will always be that way. NC State hasn’t done anything in the past few years. As the guy below me said:
“What have you done for me lately”
yea, third team in north carolina
which is pretty much the heart of college basketball
"I heard that Tits was "well rounded" and his brother Cans was a "stand out." :D"
by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 18, 2010 3:05 PM PDT
by BravesRaleigh on Apr 6, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
that doesn't make your team any better
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Apr 6, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a pretty distant third too
I don’t want to beat up on you but it’s really tough to defend NC State athletics right now. Even more so with yao at the helm.
Doubt, indulged and cherished, is in danger of becoming denial; but if honest, and bent on thorough investigation, it may soon lead to full establishment of the truth.
-Ambrose Bierce
Let's not give them that much credit
They’re 4th at best. Given recent history, Wake Forest has a much stronger case for 3rd in NC. Hell, even Barton College has better recent success than NC State with a D2 championship a few years back.
History matters, but not that much
What happens in the 70s is important, but not as much as most N.C. State fans seem to think. The game has changed, and success decades ago is no longer an accurate picture of how easy it is to win at Job X.
What’s more important are the present conditions. Right now, N.C. State is the third best team in its own state, right in the shadow of Duke and Carolina. Their coaches will be judged by that standard, and it’s a pretty ridiculous one. Even if Gottfried is able to make you guys relevant again, what happens after he loses to Duke and Carolina a few years in a row? How long do you put up with that? Most other jobs don’t have a measuring stick as imposing as two of the top 5 programs in the country.
The history is nice, but it’s not nearly as important as the other factors. Facilities are okay but aren’t better than the conference standard. Recruiting base is decent but there’s a ton of competition for it. Fan passion is great, but it has the flip-side of creating higher job pressure.
I just don’t see anything that distinguishes N.C. State as a top-notch / elite job. Then again, the phrasing “middle of the pack” relies upon knowing what “the pack” is – if it’s high-majors, then he’s right. If it’s jobs country wide, well obviously no.
3rd in NC is even a stretch...
Within the last decade, it’s hard not to argue Wake hasn’t had a better program than NC State… NC State hasn’t made the tournament in like 5 years, right?
I am absolutely rooting for NC State to rebound for the sake of the credibility of the conference. I hope this new guy is competent. When the ACC was indisputably the top conference in the nation earlier in the decade, they were consistently one of those dangerous teams, but even then they were still in the middle of the pack. But in a good conference, there’s nothing wrong with being pedestrian… just ask UConn.
There’s no denying that there are a great many jobs in the conference that are more prestigious. And no denying that Debbie Yow is a f***ing psycho hose beast. Still, I hope NC State at least returns to respectability. I think we all do. As long as their rebuilding wins don’t come against Maryland.
i appreciate what you're saying
but i don’t think too many people on here are in the same boat, im not trolling, my fiancee actually just recently graduated from maryland, so i support them every single time they play in every sport except for when they play against nc state, but from what im reading, it seems like everyone on here just hopes state burns to the ground and they’re never back to what they were 20 years ago
"I heard that Tits was "well rounded" and his brother Cans was a "stand out." :D"
by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 18, 2010 3:05 PM PDT
by BravesRaleigh on Apr 6, 2011 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm in the same "boat" as mmford, as well as most others I know
We don’t have any hatred for NC State, they’re one of the more likeable teams in the conference. Unless NC State is playing Maryland I usually cheer them on. Like mmford, I think having them rebound would make our conference look a lot more solid than it has in past years. Most people I speak to agree
yup
nc state is my next favorite acc team, i would love if they could usurp unc and duke, as long as that doesnt include wins over UMD
Lets gooo Maryland
Yeah, I got no problem with NC State.
Except for Julius Hodge, they are a very respectable entity.
From reading their site, it seems like they aren’t sold on Yow either, so we should cut them some slack.
whoa whats wrong with hodge?
and yeah we dont like her, we only put up with her because of her late sister
"I heard that Tits was "well rounded" and his brother Cans was a "stand out." :D"
by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 18, 2010 3:05 PM PDT
by BravesRaleigh on Apr 6, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
it wasnt just the 70s
it was the 40s to the end of the 80s, state was better than duke or unc for 44 years, and ever since valvano’s unfortunate departure, state hasnt been able to recover
"I heard that Tits was "well rounded" and his brother Cans was a "stand out." :D"
by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 18, 2010 3:05 PM PDT
by BravesRaleigh on Apr 6, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Keep holding onto those national championships from millions of years ago
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Apr 6, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
see thats what im talking about
whats with the insults?
"I heard that Tits was "well rounded" and his brother Cans was a "stand out." :D"
by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 18, 2010 3:05 PM PDT
by BravesRaleigh on Apr 6, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
You must not have done well in grade school if you felt insulted by that
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Apr 6, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
still with the hostility, but ok ill play
you must have been abused as a child with all this hate
"I heard that Tits was "well rounded" and his brother Cans was a "stand out." :D"
by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 18, 2010 3:05 PM PDT
by BravesRaleigh on Apr 6, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, because that is totally the same
care to make a few rape jokes or maybe a few racist jokes while you are at it?
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
by John Stephens on Apr 6, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Firegary sticking up for Gary
It’s a good day .
by tumi on Apr 6, 2011 1:49 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
It appears that FIREGARY
has sorta taken on the role as Gary’s parent or guardian. Ya know, when your kid does something bad and that ticks off a neighbor, and said neighbor scolds the kid, and the parent then gets ticked at the neighbor. Then parent explains to the kid, sometimes rather strongly, you can’t act that way or do those things. In other words, I can gripe about and discipline my kid, but no one else can, save for a teacher.
F/G – I am impressed….
You're giving Doyel too much credit
You have to appreciate Gregg Doyel for what he is. He’s not a journalist, he’s an online columnist whose entire schtick is to stir the pot with a “provocative” article and get more page views. The equivalent of a morning radio shock jock. We’ll see what happens if he writes something on the cbssportline site, or if he sees the error of his radio interviews and just keeps quiet.
Calling out a Hall of Fame coach as a coward if he doesn’t return your call when you accuse him (with no proof) of sabotaging the N.C. State job search is bush league, the M.O. of wrestlers or Fox News/MSNBC political rabble rousers. That’s what Doyel is.
Enjoy N.C. State, Dr. Yow is all yours now.
Wait a minute, based on your description of Doyel
as someone whose entire schtick is to stir the pot by writing provocative online articles….firegary anyone???
They took Doyel's article down
Can we all say threat of a “Libel Lawsuit?” Go Gary – u do not need to say 1 word!
by bball purist on Apr 6, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
it was already posted?
Doubt, indulged and cherished, is in danger of becoming denial; but if honest, and bent on thorough investigation, it may soon lead to full establishment of the truth.
-Ambrose Bierce
What...I...How? But...
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
I feel bad for Pack fans and Gottfried
This is what they received:
1991 excerpt from Seattle Times article:
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19910616&slug=1289416
There’s a lot about Debbie Yow, 40, that’s harder to explain. Since becoming athletic director last August, she has been embroiled in a number of publicized controversies. Some critics have portrayed her as everything from a hard-bitten dragon lady whose zealous management style caused a rift with veteran basketball coach Rich Grawer. Others see her as an overly sensitive little girl who didn’t fight hard enough to get the Billikens into the National Invitation Tournament.
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