Basketball Signing Day: Turgeon Wants Two More, Had Another "in Back Pocket"
We all need something to cheer for at this point in our lives, so the news that all three of Maryland's commitments faxed in their Letters of Intent earlier this morning was fantastic news. (A last-minute Terrence Ross situation might've literally killed a few people.)
But Mark Turgeon says they actually thought one more was on the way.
"I expected to have one more signed. I thought we had one more in our back pocket, and it didn't get done," coach Mark Turgeon said.
Of course, Turgeon isn't allowed to comment on any unsigned recruits, so we're left to guess. My first thought was Torian Graham, a player for whom Maryland's made a big push and had some rumors on the table of a visit last weekend. InsideMDSports goes old-school and brings up Christian Sanders, who was rumored to be a heavy Maryland lean before committing to Stanford back in September. He notably leaves out any mention of a timeframe here - that is, he doesn't say if this miss happened awhile ago or relatively recently - so we're still guessing. (For that matter ... Jerami Grant, perhaps?). Ah well, what's done is done.
Anyway, Turgeon says they're "actively trying to get some things done," which is a bit of a "duh" comment but is still encouraging. He says they want a power forward and a guard to round out the class. Assuming the guard is Graham - and I'm pretty sure he's it at this point - it should make the search for that final PF a bit easier, even if the options are significantly thinning at this point. I'm guessing they'll keep working away at Charles Mitchell, but I think you have to expect the unexpected at this point.
This is also the first chance Turgeon has to speak on any of the commitments. The official site has wrapped up a handful of quotes on each of them, including some comments from Turge, and it's obviously a nice read. There are five or six quotes for each, but I'll excerpt a few favorites:
Joe Allen, father [of Seth Allen]: "We're very excited for Seth to sign with the University of Maryland and to have the chance to play at such a prestigious school. The academics, the way they have it set up, we know our son will succeed and graduate. The bigger part of it is that the coaching staff, from [Director of Athletics Kevin] Anderson on down is just absolutely, incredibly family-oriented. Seth comes from a strong family background. We can't speak enough about the family atmosphere, the way they made us feel comfortable. It's just a good feeling to know that he's going into that kind of atmosphere. We're excited about the outcome and the making of the young man that the staff at Maryland is going to build on."
Aaron Harrison, Houston Defenders (AAU) Coach [on Shaquille Cleare]: "He's a little different than most in that now nobody wants to play with their back to the basket. That's how he plays and he has the best hands that I've seen in such a long time. I don't think there's a limit to his potential to be honest. If you play him one-on-one, because he's so big and strong, he puts his body on the defender and scores. Over the summer time, we looked at it and he scored 72 percent of the time we gave him the ball on the box. He's come a long way. He's only been in the country for four years and when I first met him he always had good hands and feet, but he's worked so hard to make himself better. He's come such a long way."
Leo Papile, Boston Amateur Basketball Club [on Jake Layman]: "He's a young, developing guy with enormous potential and upside. The best is yet to come... At 6-9, with the ability to guard guys down on the floor, he's totally unique for American basketball. He's a wing... You put him on the ball and, in our (full-court) defense, he just wreaks havoc with his mobility. He was bound to just make an enormous impact on the national scene."
Ah ... thank God for basketball season, right?
(BTW, I've never been on the Layman train the same way many others have been, but I can't help but feel he'll be the best out of everyone Maryland signs this year.)
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Ben did you just say what I think you said about Layman "Shocker"
I guess with Layman its all about his length, versatility, and potential. As of right now I hear what many experts are saying about him but when I see it on the court I just don’t see it right now. I guess that is why they call it potential. He seems like a smart, crafty kid, so I can assume once he gets into Turgeon’s hands it will all come together for him.
At the very least, this tells me how much Turgeon values recruiting
I loved Gary, like most on here, but he never really talked about the importance of getting top-level guys to play here. Every time I read or listen to something Turgeon has said about recruiting, I always get the feel that he knows that he is going to have to sign a lot of 4-and-5-star players in order to win big, and that’s what he plans to do.
Laymans not going to be the Best
Seth Allen is a monster unknown for lack of AAU play but striaght ballet reminds me of Juan Dixon mark my word!!!!
Don't play with MY TERPS
by Jaybezel2 on Nov 9, 2011 5:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
are you out of your mind?
There will never be another Juan Dixon…. Seth may have his own success story, I hope he does, but to compare him to Juan is not fair to Juan…. The odds that Juan had to overcome just to get here, then LEAD THE TERPS TO THE NATTY…. no one does that….no one except for Juan.
by Zol on Nov 9, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
he already has a lot more confidence than AB
by bloodwatermission on Nov 9, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Allen
Is going to play PG per Turge’s teleconference today.
That’s why he’s been practicing with John Wall.
dont attack me for this
but layman reminds me a lot of Durant in high school. long, athletic, tall for their position, still need to put some meat on the bone and fill out, insane potential, able to stroke from deep and slash inside to throw it down. obviously I don’t think he is as skilled or good as durantula but I can see the similarities.
lol
I was gonna say that earlier.
He’s the blonde Durant
Hopefully he’ll be as aggressive as him on offense
What? Durant?
Attack!
I like Turtles!
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by RedTurtle on Nov 9, 2011 5:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Goodman & Graham
Those are the two players Zagoria says we’re in on. Via his Twitter earlier this afternoon.
clarification please . . .
Re: the “one in his pocket”> Do we know if he means that it is now gone, or just didnt come through today? Also was it one of the two he is still hoping for or unrelated to those two?
All of that is unknown
My interpretation was that he was still on the board, but he obviously didn’t say that so we don’t know for sure.
He was talking about Grant
Grant was here until Layman gave us a verbal. I think Sanders was a wait and see to the staff.
Another thing
Did Turgeon say today he expects 1 or 2 more pending academic situations?? Anyone hear or see that? Maybe Mitchell and Graham?? Goodman?
One thing i like about all three of these guys
Is i can see this trio sticking together all four years. I guess Shaq would be the most likely to jump early, but i really don’t see it happening with Layman or Allen. I suppose Allen could surprise, but i don’t think he’s an NBA talent. Layman may have NBA potential, but its exactly that: potential, and he would need multiple years in college to develop into that player.
Its also nice that we have a guard, forward, and center, rather than, say, two guards and a center or two forwards and a guard or something like that. Not only that, but there is versatility with these guys. Allen could play the one or two, and Layman could conceivably play 2-4 if there was a need at the 2 or 4.
I disagree
I think Layman would be the one to leave school early. Shaq’s only 6’9, and the NBA isn’t too high on smaller big men. I’m not saying he won’t make the NBA, but you usually don’t see those type of guys leave early.
Layman is pushing 6’9, and if he bulks up, I could see him leaving early if he has a good first two years. The NBA loves tall and athletic three men.
Well, i figure Shaq is atleast Jordan's height
And that didn’t stop Jordan from leaving early. Ofcourse, certain circumstances (weak draft, particularly for big men) may have played a role in that. Jordan probably should not have left, but he’s an example of players not having ideal height leaving early anyway. And Shaq seems to have more talent than Jordan. Shaq has only been playing 4 or 5 years i believe so his game could develop really well and he might suddenly bust out like Jordan did, opening the door of possibility for him to leave early.
The reason i see Layman staying is because, while there is quite a bit of talent there, it hasn’t been immensely tapped into yet. As i said in my original post, i feel like its alot of potential for him. I watched a few of his games with BABC, and he seems a little raw to me. And he doesn’t strike me as really quick or particularly fast; so even though he’s athletic, he’s not the quickest 3 out there. I guess the bottom line with Layman, in my opinion, is that right now he is bucket loads of potential, but not yet anything close to a leave early for the NBA type. And because of that, i believe he would need at least 3, probably 4 years in college before he would be NBA ready.
Layman at 2
that is just a matchup nightmare. I’m not sure if he is quick enough to play the 2, but he has the shot to do so. could you imagine trying to guard a 6’9" guy playing the 2 position that could actually shoot?
He could definitely be a matchup nightmare... on both ends of the court
Offensively, yikes. Think of him facing a team like ours this year… If Pe’ hadn’t gotten hurt, or if Pe’ returns at some point, we’re going to be seeing Stoglin at the 2. Stogs is 6’1. Imagine somebody like that trying to defend Layman. Not even fair.
However, and you allude to this, it could be a problem at the other end of the court. Layman’s length would help him stay in front of some guys, but at some point he would meet a 2 that would have the skills to take the rock to the hole on him everytime. A zone could fix that problem, but Turge plays man.
About zone and Layman
I’ve heard some analysts saying that Layman’s length is well utilized sitting at the top of a zone—a good note on this is how in the article they talk about him getting the most steals/minute where he’s playing now. If Turge is the kind of coach that adapts to his available personnel, you may see him dabble with the zone just for that reason.
Seth Allen
might be as good as Martin Cleaves….time will tell, but I think he has that potential.
Lol really?
That’s what you want to put on the kid before he steps on campus? Great job!
My favorite quote was Biancardi's last one
“This class is well-balanced between guys who can help immediately and guys who can be brought along and will make their mark in the ACC. Mark does a good job of evaluating players and a good job of developing them. He’s put together an all-star recruiting staff there. When they’re not out recruiting, they’re thinking about recruiting.”
Also noticed another thing
Seth’s dad said that family atmosphere from top to bottom was hugely important to them. Interesting. Seth didn’t commit to A@M because of the distance, we had to wait on Cleare to visit his parents before he became a Terp. And Layman’s mom and HS coach both said the staff was like family to him.
Guess who else i family oriented? Goodman. Is that a different scenario? Probably but he is still close with his dad. You know who else? The Harrison Twins. They’ve close as hell with their dad and the B-More connections they have have been mentioned several times by recruiting analysts, and even the Twins themselves as important.
Also since Graham recently lost his mother, the relationships he has built thus far with coaches will be even more critical since they have been present in his life. You know who’s been present in Graham’s life longer than any other coach? Dalonte Hill.
I like the cut of your jib.
Preach on, brotha!!
!!!!!!!!!!
my friend just told me we r the frontrunner according to the twins, according to papa harrison. anyone else hear anything about this?
You say "according to the twins, according to papa harrison"
Which is it? I’m guessing it meant to say FOR the twins, according to papa harrison.
Anyways, if he really did say that, i’m sure it’d be on twitter by now
I didn't mean to say twitter is always right, obviously it isn't
But if Harrison Sr. had said that, word would have gotten around and somebody would have tweeted it. Telep, Zags, somebody.
***************for the twins, according to their father
by (adm)iregary on Nov 9, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
no i didnt, which is exactly why
i stated that my friend told me this and i asked if anyone else had heard anything about it.
by (adm)iregary on Nov 10, 2011 8:01 AM EST up reply actions

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