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Maryland Minute 11.01.11 - Discussing Randy Edsall's Handling of Adversity

COLLEGE PARK, MD - SEPTEMBER 05: Maryland Terrapins head coach Randy Edsall watches his team warm up before the start of their game against the Miami Hurricanes at Byrd Stadium on September 5, 2011 in College Park, Maryland.  (Photo by Rob Carr/Getty Images)


After posting this story yesterday, which was sparked by comments Maryland head coach Randy Edsall made about managing expectations for sophomore quarterback Danny O'Brien, a very livid debate carried out among Testudo Times readers. Many were angered about what Edsall said and how he's handled this and several other situations. Others thought that criticizing Edsall about the quote was undermining Edsall and showing a lack of support for the university and football program. I think it's necessary to articulate the difference between criticizing and calling for the ouster of a coach.

I don't think Edsall should be fired. Do I think Edsall has made some mistakes this season? Yes. Has this team under performed? I certainly think so. But simply critiquing a coach for these mistakes doesn't mean I think he should be fired. He's doing things his way and while I don't necessarily agree with his approach all the time, that doesn't mean I think he should be fired. Edsall hasn't been on the job for even a year so how can we accurately judge his performance? I think you have to give the guy some time. I hope Edsall gets things turned around and I think most people feel that way. While he's made mistakes in how he's handled several issues facing this program, that doesn't mean he should be fired after being on the job less than a year. I think this piece by John Feinstein sums up everything perfectly; Edsall has made mistakes but this has been a learning process for him. He's a good coach who's hit some bumps in the road and hasn't done the best job dealing with them but that doesn't mean we should be calling for his head already.

Maryland football’s accountability needs to start at the top - The Washington Post

Randy Edsall: Core of Maryland team trusts my philosophy - The Washington Post
Edsall said the team is still behind him and urged fans to continue to support the team.

Terps' O'Brien unfazed by expectations - Washington Times

"No one's expectations are going to be higher [for] me than myself," O'Brien said. "I put a lot of pressure on myself to play well --- good pressure. Everything else kind of is what it is. You can't control it."

Smart kid, that Danny O'Brien. This is one of the many reasons why I thought Edsall should have just kept his mouth shut on the issue. You knew O'Brien would put pressure on himself to do well just based on his work ethic.

Terps getting run over
Maryland is giving up a lot of rushing yards. A lot. Speaking of which...

Hartsfield’s return shuffles up defense - Sports - The Diamondback - University of Maryland
Maryland is making some changes at linebacker, including having Demetrius Hartsfield back.

Star-divide

Rick Snider: Starting over at the top not a bad idea for Redskins, Terps | Rick Snider | NFL | Washington Examiner
I disagree with Rick Snider on this piece in regards to both coaches. And I'm not even a Redskins fan. Snider is 100% wrong in advocating for the removal of Edsall.

Turgeon will use walk-ons - Baltimore Sun
When you're down to seven scholarship players, walk-ons are going to have to play. I really hope Maryland hears about Len before the season starts...

#4 Terps to Honor Seniors Thursday

#4 Maryland will honor its seniors Thursday at 7:30 p.m. against Wake

Men's soccer's loss to Clemson proves crucial in battle for ACC - Sports - The Diamondback - University of Maryland
Good look at the status of the ACC Soccer picture.

#10 Maryland Halts Messiah, 82-36
The women's team, who's ranked #10, beat Messiah in an exhibition game.

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I rarely think it is good to root for your team to lose, but once it is obvious the game is lost, I see nothing wrong with rooting for an embarrassing blowout.


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by Bud Elliott on Nov 2, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

So, whatever happned to those expected Miami sanctions?

Did they end up getting anything? Is the investigation still ongoing? Any idea when we might now the ultimate outcome?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

If there is one thing

The NCAA is known for, it’s acting quickly and swiftly.

Also I have some swampland in Arizona to sell you.

I like Turtles!

by RedTurtle on Nov 2, 2011 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fire Edsall

Get Randy Shannon.

I like Turtles!

by RedTurtle on Nov 2, 2011 11:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Classis

Replace Edsall with an almost identical locker room leader with complimentary discipline techniques. I would love to see Shannon as the DC but HQ?! Come on…

by LowcountryTerp1 on Nov 2, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL @ Terp fans undermining Edsall. He does it to himself. If anything, requesting his firing is supportive of the university and football program.

by mrspree15 on Nov 2, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope he gets it right

He has handled things terribly so far, I don’t think anyone will argue that. But I do hope he turns it around. He has rubbed players, fans, alums and the press the wrong way by a long shot. That makes everyone give him less slack.

This week it SEEMS to be sinking in a little. He was more approachable and actually took some responsibility for the teams failing. All things people want to see from their coach when it goes sideways like it has.

This is a different media market and a different school. I think the thought he was going to walk into Maryland and do things just like he did in Storrs. That didn’t work.

Randy seems like a smart guy, let’s hope he gets it figured out sooner rather than later.

by Terpentine on Nov 2, 2011 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey Dave and/or Ben

The caption has a typo. September 5th was 2 months ago, not 1.

I like Turtles!

by RedTurtle on Nov 2, 2011 11:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

That's an automatic thing in the photo system SBN uses

We get AP and Getty photos, and if we don’t change the caption, the default is used with an automatically generated date. If it hasn’t been 2 months, it says “about 1 month”. Can’t change the date, unfortunately.

by Ben Broman on Nov 2, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Dave

Important distinction that I’ve tried to make, but haven’t done so articulately.

1. I think the Edsall era has been a disappointment thus far; and
2. Based on his time at UConn, and his short time at Maryland, I’m not confident that he will turn things around.

However, I ALSO don’t think he should be fired, for two reasons:

1. It is not financially feasible; and
2. He deserves 3 or 4 years to try and turn it around. At that point we will have enough evidence to make a more accurate judgment as to whether Edsall stays.

Most people that are criticizing Edsall, if they are being honest, take this stance. I think that is what has frustrated me about a good number of the people on the other side of the debate. “Edsall has disappointed thus far” is countered by “but we need to wait and see.”

That isn’t a counterargument to the first point. In fact, it is readily admitted by even the anti-Edsall crowd.

by bshock on Nov 2, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

3-4 years, that is absolutely crazy. If there were no financila implications, I would have no problem with firing RE at the end of the season. I do not see it getting better under him.

And while at it, that idiotic AD had to go too.

by billterps on Nov 2, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

if.

not true. end of hypothesis. KA not an idiot. Cares a lot, and not saying yet RE was the worng hire given circumstance and choices available, but ADs make the wrong choice VERY often.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Nov 2, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Edsall should be running his offense not Crwtens.

If we gave megget the ball 25-30 times a game then O’Brien could look more like the DOB we know. I really think our team is better built for what Edsall would do and not Crwten

by Maryland1206 on Nov 2, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Wouldn’t have agreed with this before the season, but it seems pretty obvious now. Meggett has proven himself as a solid every-down back that can grind for about 4 yard per carry. Pound the running game and make other teams stack the box.

by Mike S. on Nov 2, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Given he inherited a 9-4 team, he is not entitled to 3-4 years

Fans simply will not give him that much time to “turn around” a program that was in fairly decent shape when he took over. Many ticket holders will bail after this year. Without better coaching and recruiting, more will bail over time and the spiral just continues downward (although not sure how much worse it can get when tickets are going for one penny apiece).

by jhuterp on Nov 2, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

a team that overachieved and had an EASY schedule

calm down its been like 10 weeks and everyone wants him fired. its stupid

by Maryland1206 on Nov 2, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I wonder what the over under is on when the fire Turgeon chants will begin.

by LowcountryTerp1 on Nov 2, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've said it dozens of times

But I guarantee Turgeon gets significantly more patience from the fanbase than Edsall, fair or not.

There is a lot more room for hope with basketball than football, I think. Better staff, better recruiting, more-proven coach. And basketball lends itself to quicker turnarounds than football, where it often takes years to get even the most talented recruits ready to make an impact.

by bshock on Nov 2, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nine wins against

Navy, Morgan State, Florida International, Duke, Boston College, Wake Forest, Virginia, NCST and East Carolina.

I mean come on, the only win against a good opponent on that list is NCST. 75 percent of teams in the SEC, Big Ten, and Big 12 would have won 11 games with the Terps schedule last season.

by aholla30 on Nov 2, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

the "tough schedule" argument

falls apart with the BC and Temple games. I think most reasonable expectations at this point were for the team to be 4-4 or 5-3

Also, don’t oversell your argument. 75% of the SEC/B10/B12 would win 11 games?

2010 Iowa St (7th in B12): 5-7 record
2010 Northwestern (8th in B10): 7-7 with an easier schedule than Maryland (according to sagarin)
2010 Georgia (7th in SEC): Loss to UCF in Bowl, finished 5-7, no ranked wins

Am I saying that Maryland was better than these teams? No, but it is silly to act like they would be natty contenders if given the Terps sked.

by UtzTheCrabChip on Nov 2, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then why did Anderson send out a message that no one is happy with football results to date?

If last year is a big fluke, why would AD say the record to date is so dissappointing? While nobody expected the TERPS would win the ACC but …….come on man, 2-6 is inexcusable. Last year’s team is 4-4 at this stage with 7-5 a real possibility. Edsall broke something that did not need repair. The end result is both fan and team unrest. Forget Maryland football for years to come as the damage done is irreversible.

by jhuterp on Nov 2, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

broken record

10 Million reasons, at minimum 8 Million reasons RE gets 4 years to prove himself. I say he’ll get to 4 with simply an above .500 record in year 3. If past history of most middle of the road programs is any indicator, RE will get an extension if he’s above .500 in years 3 and 4. I’m clearly making a provocative statement, but it is more in line with the financial realities and the reality of coaching turnover than many care to admit. Look at what this tunrover has done to our program. Happens time and time again in most programs – that is reality – hard 2 argue with it. Yeah, now yank out some exceptions, that’s all they are – exceptions…

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Nov 2, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Overachieved

We need the current Teps team to overachieve just like last years team. Everyone agrees that last years team was not that good, they just played that way. Edsall needs to tap into his players motivation and get them to overachieve. That is the goal of coaching.

by torope on Nov 2, 2011 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Reason Im disappointed is

I think everybody is disappointed in the offense because we thought Edsall was gonna bring his smashmouth football approach of running the ball 25+ times a game.Instead, we get a spread that is worthless with DOB at QB.I wish Edsall just go back to how he ran his UConn program and get better recruits then he did at UConn.His defenses were OK at UConn but this defense that Bradford is running is HORRIBLE.I think he should just get rid of Crowton and Bradford after this year and run his old offense and defense.

by JRoZe410 on Nov 2, 2011 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

That is very correct

I thought the passing game was going to be a high pct, low turnover passing game, and we were going to run it down team’s throats with our RBBC, Meggett leadingthe way…It surprised me too.

"A new era has dawned in Maryland Athletics..."

by bball purist on Nov 2, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Edsall is making another mistake with the Linebackers this week!

My opinion is that Edsall is making a mistake with the LBs again! He should keep Lorne Goree in the Middle it is ok to move Drakeford to Star and move Hartsfield into the other outside slot. Goree has proven to be a better Middle LB than Hartsfield however Hartsfield has always been very effective when he is an Outside backer.That will give us the most experienced and best 3 backers we have had all year, playing at the same time.

by BajaTerp on Nov 2, 2011 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

100% agree

he makes some stupid moves.I could see if Goree was struggling but Goree has been one of our best defensive players ever since he was put in there

by JRoZe410 on Nov 2, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure why Dave Tucker did not include this quote from Maurice Hampton

When asked the difference between Edsall and former coach Ralph Friedgen, fifth-year senior Maurice Hampton said: "Just the rules. He’s doing everything right. Take your hat off when you come in the room. Don’t wear earrings in the building.

"You never know who you are going to meet in life and whether you are rubbing them the wrong way. Show someone that you have character and are not just another guy. I get it. But everyone doesn’t get it. They are mad because, ‘Oh, I have to take my earrings out’ or ‘I can’t wear this in the building or I have to pull my pants up or tuck my shirt in.’ None of these things are wrong. They are all right."

I mean – tell me – what the heck is wrong with this? As a Terp and a Dad – I think its terrific – would you rather have the discpline of FSU or Miami

by Mighty MD on Nov 2, 2011 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

The problem I have with this

is that you are suggesting that FSU and Miami players have discipline.

by kevinANGERson on Nov 2, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Linebackers

It is nice to see so many more options at linebacker this week. I think all will see playing time and hopefully the infusion of fresh bodies will improve the defense. I agree Goree is too good to sit for long but the return of Drakeford and Hartsfield should be a huge lift for the defense. I am also interested in how Alex Twine performs on the weakside.

by torope on Nov 2, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

IM TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT RANDY EDSALL

Just play ball, get beat and try again the next week. Thats the motto the rest of the way. Edsall is not gonna change his coaching MO because the fans are not happy. We have no choice but to stay the course and take our lumps. Considering this season is loss, lets focus on how Edsall will recruit his upcoming class. Thats where we should expect difference as opposed to that new fat ramblin wreck alumnus who coached the Terps.

by LargoD85 on Nov 2, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

You know if you people watched the Miami-UVA game you might see what we are trying to do to address the way UVA runs the ball. I think the LB set up will have very good results and if obvious passing situations I expect we will see Rowson ( who would be a hect of FS with his size and speed). As for the local recruiting, if you all would shut up we may still have a chance to sign one or two of the local top kids. If you all get behind this team and the kids come out and play like they did against GT, Clemson & FSU (yes FSU until the 4th qtr) we can beat UVA. Thye are a good young team but they are no where near Clemson or FSU or for the matter WVA.

by ngaumfan on Nov 2, 2011 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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