Maryland QB Danny O'Brien Out for the Year With Broken Arm
by Ben Broman on Nov 13, 2011 9:34 AM EST
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PrintA bit late on this, but still post-worthy: Danny O'Brien, who left last night's game against Notre Dame with an injury in the third quarter, has a broken arm and won't return this year.
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Brendan Darr Edsall: "Broke a bone in his upper-arm, know more when we get out and talk to doctors" Danny O'Brien out for the year.
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Although I think it makes sense to point out that "out for the season" could mean as little as "out for two weeks," since that's all there is left. That's not to belittle the injury; I'm just curious to hear how much he'll be out real-time. Regardless: best of luck to his recovery.
I suppose this gives an end to the annoying back-and-forth QB controversy that had been occupying Maryland football for about a month now, though in a sad way that no one's happy to see. Regardless, the onus now falls on C.J. Brown, the quick-legged runner who started against Clemson, Florida State, and Boston College.
Everybody knows I'm a big Brown fan, but even I now have a few worries about him as a full-time starter. Hopefully, Gary Crowton rely heavily on the zone-read option, which is his strength and a very dangerous play. Brown's arm also seems to have some liveliness when he goes deep; it's the short passes he seems to struggle with. I still think he can have success in the right offense, but I'm not sure Crowton can call the right offense for him.
But the really scary thing: Brown is Maryland's only scholarship QB right now. Behind him on the depth chart are walk-on freshmen James Joseph and Troy Jones. And with Brown's playing style, it's really a matter of time before he takes a shot from a head-hunting linebacker. Things could get really interesting at quarterback in the last two games.
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Really hate it for D.O.B.
Save his first pass of the game and the interception, I thought he threw the ball last night about as good as he has all year. A lot of zip on the passes.
I guess this will also start the “Was that the last game for D.O.B. in a Terp uniform?” posts. I really hope it isn’t. I know Danny didn’t have the year we all expected him to have. I’m anxious to hear him talk after the season and get his thoughts on why he thinks he took a step back after last year.
I know that players have to do what’s best for them; hope Danny works even harder this offseason and comes back next year determined to get us back in contention for the A.C.C.
Eh
Some of his passes were great, but several passes were thrown behind the receivers. I think overall this season, he’s been a mix of great and awful. Sometimes his passes were perfect, only to result in a drop by the receiver (although occasionally they actually caught them). Other times, he’s thrown behind receivers or thrown horrid interceptions (although how many of those are based on miscommunications or badly run routes, I haven’t a clue).
I hope that he recovers well and is back in College Park next year.
Assumption is the mother of all @#%-ups.
Depending upon the severity of the injury,
and I hope it’s minimal, but might the injury be enough to keep him at UMD (looking for opinions)?
He had some bad throws last night, but had just as many that were dropped – I counted three, maybe four drops. Remember, both bad throws and dropped passes count against the QB statistically.
Overall, his numbers were good, and he looked a little more comfortable and confident.
Franklin
Maybe Vandy would like to have Danny?
I thought he was constantly behind or low on a lot of his passes
Especially early in the game, which got us down in a hole we couldn’t climb out of.
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by John Stephens on Nov 13, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
No Problem
The way things are going, the Terps will get a high draft pick and get anybody they want.
Seriously, the program is becoming unrecognizable. No blocking, tackling, catching, and pass defending, to name a few areas. Worse, recruiting doesn’t seem all that great. Turge had a recruiting plan, and set it in motion immediately. We could see that plan. Still wondering what the FB plan is. I am still on board with Randy, but want to hear from him or someone what the process is for a new day, even if that day is distant. Discipline alone won’t do it.
I think if you really look at it, Edsall's plan is pretty clear
He really wants to build a base on the team of “his guys” – hard-working, smart, disciplined players, and many of them are camp offers who were overlooked by other programs. I think there are something like 9 of the 16 commits were camp offers. He then wants to top that off with the elite local talent – guys like Diggs, Spence, Darby, Goldman, Jones, etc.
That’s a very risky approach, on two levels. First of all, camp offers are always risky. I’m okay with them going out; I’m not great with them making up the majority of the class. So, too, is the “we’ll find the guys everyone else misses” thing, because most programs pass on a player for a reason. 1 out of 50 of those under-the-radar guys pan out as a Tom Brady or something, and there’s no guarantee we’re getting that 1.
And then there’s the risk of not landing the elite locals. Because, let’s face it, we probably won’t. And when that happens, then our entire class consists of camp offers and the like.
If he had the heavy-hitters on the staff to land the elite talent, I’d feel a lot better about where the program stands right now.
Under the Radar
I see that part of the plan. Terps can beat out Towson and lots of other programs like for the low-star “finds.” The Terps are an attractive enough ACC school, with a good location and academic reputation, to get those. And yes, those hard-working guys will love to be here and they have all the discipline and character Randy would want. I just don’t see a plan that would give the Terps a chance to compete for top ACC talent. What is that plan? It doesn’t have to happen right away, but how is the momentum building to get there some day? At least say what the process is.
I wonder if Bino or Hill can spare a couple hours every now and then to help Randy? Just kidding, but Randy needs people who know how to work the system, as you point out, Ben.
Diamond Mining
It’s great when it works. Gary Williams was excellent at looking under the radar. If one of three recruits becomes a diamond, the result is outstanding. This is fine in basketball and it’s three-recruits-a-year average. If Edsall relies on this system, he’ll need to find five or six upcoming diamonds a year to have outstanding results.
by Runningcloud on Nov 13, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
I really want to know if the horrible tackling is coaching or if the players we have just suck at tackling. It’s hilariously awful to watch.
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by John Stephens on Nov 13, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
One would hope that a player
who is capable of competing at the ACC level would already know how to tackle. The question, then, is: Do they WANT to tackle. That’s one reason why I question if the desire to succeed is really there. The same – to a lesser degree – applies to catching passes.
Unfortunately, I suspect that’s the last time we see DOB in a Terps uniform. Why would a pro style QB stick around to play in an offense that doesn’t suit him? He won’t.
So that leaves Brown, a weak armed QB whose running style leaves him vulnerable to injury (I accept the irony that it is DOB who is out for the year.)
So it looks like my 2-10 prediction will come to pass. This is a horrible team, with no discipline and no heart. The offensive playbook never matched the talent on this team. The defense, excepting a few players, was below average. Had the incoming coaching staff built its season around the talent the team had, this was a bowl caliber team. Instead of gradually instilling his style, Edsall chose to blow up the program.
And so, in my opinion, this season falls squarely on Randy Edsall and no one else. Across the board, Edsall’s first year is a colossal fail. He might be Keven Anderson’s kind of military guy, but will the players, and the fan base, agree? Can that kind of approach, without a track record to really deserve those kinds of demands, work at Maryland? I doubt it.
I’m guessing Edsall will be a place holder for a bigger name coach (not Leech). With Penn State’s implosion, maybe the time is right for Maryland to make a bold move and bring in a big name coach sooner rather than later and take the financial hit. After all, if can we afford 15,000 people a game in the stands under the current regime?
I’m guessing Kevin Anderson is a bit worried too.
With 15,000 at a game, we can't afford buyouts
by Runningcloud on Nov 13, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
That’s the point I am trying to make. We can’t afford Edsall. If he starts 1-5 next year, it’s gotta be over.
by Go Maryland on Nov 13, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Anderson couldn't figure it out even if you drew him pictures
He is single handedly taking the Terps to new lows. By far the worse AD in Maryland history (going back to Jim Kehoe and forward). To give Edsall a 6th year without a single win was insanity. Coupled with obvious poor business skills is a dud of a personality with dismal oral communication skills. Anderson (and Edsall) both need to go.
Turge
KA made a great hire in Turge. KA was aggressive, went hard after him and landed him.
I like Turge too and on paper, I agree On the other hand, Turge hasn’t won a game yet. But Edsall has been nothing short of a complete disaster and the program absolutely cannot afford another season like this. There is, and should be, enormous pressure on Edsall and Anderson next year. So my point is, if there isn’t a turnaround next year, he’s gotta go regardless of how much it costs.
After his face to face meeting with Sean Miller, he was left in limbo as several others said no
Not sure he lands Turge without GW’s direct involvement. Anderson got low marks from the Army faithful who were very happy to see him go. Will be the same here too when he finally gets the big boot out the door (with Edsall in tow). Again, the worst AD ever at Maryland.
Wow
KA put himself out there to be ridiculed by people like you when he aggressively went after the biggest names in successful, stable programs. These top programs gave their HC top contracts. Those HCs and their families were fully settled into their great programs and satisfied with their situations and the talent on their teams. Yes a couple of the top names said no to KA. Of course they did! Miller used the KA talks to get a nice new contract.
Did that process make KA look stupid? Yes, it did to KA’s relentless critics. But KA stayed with it, pursuing Turge, going to Pittsburgh, waiting till Turge came down from the mountains in a family vacation, met him in a room, and got Turge to come here. If KA had waited until people applied to some search committee, we would had settled for a coach like NCSU’s coach.
If you want to say Gary is the one who “really” did it, fine. But the facts would say otherwise.
And what is with all the anti-Army crap that constantly arises in these posts? Coach K and Bob Knight came from Army. KA also had great experience at UC Berkeley and Stanford, two first-rate universities.
I haven't seen any Army references past the one that jhuterp just made
And there was no problem w/ that. All he said was that Army fans didn’t like him.
And that’s true. I seem to remember Bobby Ross saying something along the lines of “he didn’t make a commitment to football” or something like that.
Army Discipline
You don’t remember all the comments made over the many months about KA’s Army background, referencing what a poor sports background for the ACC that is? And how, in more recent weeks, KA wanted a disciplinarian in his HC (presumably instead of football coaching ability) because of KA’s Army background?
I understand how many fans would support the comments. But the comments have been frequently made.
Army and KA
This one is from today, a few posts up, but this thing comes up regularly:
“And so, in my opinion, this season falls squarely on Randy Edsall and no one else. Across the board, Edsall’s first year is a colossal fail. He might be Keven Anderson’s kind of military guy, but will the players, and the fan base, agree?”
by Go Maryland on Nov 13, 2011 9:01 AM PST
You obviously have no DoD contacts..........
BTW – Miller’s family was packed and ready to head back east but Anderson made a complete fool of himself in Vegas (what happened in Vegas; stays in Vegas!) GW is the sole reason Turgeon is at Maryland. Anderson lacks every skill required for a successful CEO. He was hired simply because he was the antithesis of Debbie Yow .
BTW 2 – NCSU coach is doing a hell of job on the recruiting trial and did have his former team ranked # 1 in the country. Poor argument.
We'll See
You may be right, but I am pulling for the Terps. I admit I am biased in favor of the Terps, but I think Turge was a great move by KA.
When KA talked Turge into coming to UM in that Pittsburgh hotel room, maybe he had GW hidden away in the car of his trunk, and pulled GW out to seal the deal. So, if so, you may be right about that too.
You know for sure Miler's family had their bags packed?
or did you read that on Twitter from someone who had no clue? Where does your info come from that Anderson made a fool of himself in Vegas? I’m no Anderson apologist, but the facts about what happened in Vegas won ever be known. From what I had heard, Anderson said no to Miller because Miller wanted more relaxed academic standards
Stuck
Have to agree we are stuck with Randy for a long while. He will have to show us that he can recruit, coach, talk like a HC in public and to his team, and do all the rest. It is not impossible. I am cheering for him (but probably from home next season).
Danny tweeted last night
That it was a “clean break in the humerus, out 12 weeks.”
I hope DOB heals quickly
and decides to come back next year. I really don’t think CJ is ready yet to take over, with no backup. After we lose the next 2 games, at least Randy will have time to evaluate CJ, as well as his awful assistant coaching staff. The Terps couldn’t look any worse than they did yeaterday.
A Disciplinarian Coach ????
Yes! In everything except the art of playing football. We can’t tackle, can’t catch, can’t run currect routes, can’t block … etc, etc, etc. Discipline and intelligence is what makes mediocre teams better and play over their heads. I just don’t see the discipline on the field.
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