Maryland Minute 1.2.11 - Randy Edsall Hiring Fallout, Don Brown's Status
by Ben Broman on Jan 2, 2011 10:07 PM EST
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PrintJeff Barker: Don Brown Wants to be a HC
Okay everyone, it's coming from his agent, so calm down. This is quite possibly a leverage move. We'll see. Maryland should get a shot at him, and should pay to keep him around.
No word on fate of remaining assistants
Edsall will meet with them tonight and tomorrow. Pray that Don Brown stays on board. The players said they're making their preferences known, so hopefully Edsall will keep him on board.
Edsall Plans to Bring Three Assistants With Him
Offensive coordinator, running backs coach, and special teams coordinator. So Brown remains a possibilty. Bad news:
Maryland defensive coordinator Don Brown has interviewed for the defensive coordinator position at Vanderbilt, as well as for the head coaching position at Elon, according to the source.
Search Committee contacted Chris Petersen, Rodriguez
LOL @ Petersen. What, Saban wouldn't pick up the phone?
As for Rodriguez, I know people said they hate him, but I still think he would've been a decent hire. Certainly more "sizzle."
Tracking the Terps: Leach and Maryland: the courtship ends
So on Thurdsay, he was interviewed and courted. What changed in between then and now?
Reactions, from players and media types, past the jump.
A.J. Francis Likes Edsall
Good enough for me.
Demetrius Hartsfield: You're Gonna Love Randy Edsall
He also said "Edsall + Brown = Championships."
Danny O'Brien "Very Impressed" by Randy Edsall
Good enough for Danny, good enough for me. still, what you expect him to say?
Randy Edsall not a flashy hire, but good one - Dinich
Big expectations for Edsall, that's for sure.
Losing Edsall a worrisome sign for UConn - ESPN
Good read from the UConn side of things.
Maryland's burning questions in 2011: How good is its football coaching job and can it be a power? - D1scourse
This was written pre-Edsall hiring. It's very long and and involved, but the payoff is worth it. Some will say that it leans toward an Edsall hire, beacuse it has a higher floor; others will say that Leach was Maryland's one shot at becoming an elite. I'll leave that up to you.
Mike Wise - Maryland's new football hire, Randy Edsall, doesn't look much different from Ralph Friedgen
We get it. You like Ralph Friedgen. Now go away.
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LOL @ Wise
“We get it. You like Ralph Friedgen. Now go away.”
I like Turtles!
by RedTurtle on Jan 2, 2011 10:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
per WaPo
Maryland defensive coordinator Don Brown has interviewed for the defensive coordinator position at Vanderbilt, as well as for the head coaching position at Elon, according to the source.
by Meraj Chowdhury on Jan 2, 2011 10:16 PM EST reply actions
On Edsall bringing his OC:
Joe Moorhead used to be a QB in college, so I’m sure the new staff would be open to a pass-heavy offense. Gotta take advantage of DOB and our talented WRs
will Moorhead definitely be the OC here as well?
so does that mean no to Locksley?
by dcsportsfanatic on Jan 2, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
The only thing I don’t like about Moorhead, is that it seems he likes to run an offense similar to Malzahn….a hurry up type of offense, instead of a ball control running attack. However, watching last nights game against the Sooners, it appeared that the running game was UConn’s strength….if they would have had a passing attack, Oklahoma may have been in trouble.
Seriously Folks.....
I understand why everyone hated losing Coach Ralph….great guy and great coach. Who in the entire country didn’t love the Fridge? And I agree, he got the same type of treatment that Bowden received at FSU. However, I also understand that Maryland had to make a decision NOW….let Coach Ralph go now, or extend him now. The AD was absolutely correct that assistants would NOT come to Maryland not knowing the future after next season….and everyone figured that next season would have been the last anyway. Thank you Coach Franklin for causing this stir, but we realize that Vandy is a great opportunity for you.
However, now that he is gone, how can anyone look at the Resume’ of Edsall and Malzahn and not think that Edsall runs circles around Gus? I agree Leach would have been an explosive hire, but I truly believe that Edsall is the best coach in the long run….but then again, I love defensive football. As far as RichRod, I HATE to have an opinion, because I dislike him so much….what he did to Alabama, only to spurn West Virginia for Michigan afterwards, and all the controversy that he stirred in Ann Arbor….wow. Not the coach that I would want. I admire the fact that Chris Peterson was in the mix, but no, he has proven over and over that he is a Bronco through and through. I guarantee, there are many programs out there that would like to have Edsall, and I truly believe Maryland is lucky to have obtained him.
In a nutshell
It’s all about what have you done for me lately, honestly ppl tend to forget what Fridge has done, but make no mistake about it, if you’re not winning ‘conistantly’ it’s time to move on!
Coach Friedgen brought the Terps back to being respectable….but yeah, the past couple few years were painful. At least last season was somewhat respectable, but still, it was obvious that Maryland was a second tier team in the ACC.
Dude they were a play away from the ACC title game
Do you actually go to/watch games or are you a paid Britt Kirwan spokesman?
Please….still second tier. Can’t say that Maryland is anywhere near the programs at VaTech, FSU or Miami, regardless of records.
that's true why would we look it records when were talking about success
And Miami just got better when they hired al golden we didn’t
by settleten on Jan 2, 2011 10:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It seems...
that Edsall and Brown run very different kind of defenses…different philosophies. Meaning not only are we probably going to lose Brown but also lose a lot of our recruits…AJ said it himself, he doesn’t give a damn who the coach as long as they retain Brown as DC
by Meraj Chowdhury on Jan 2, 2011 10:48 PM EST reply actions
Edsall's First Priority in Recruiting.....
Trying to convince OT Cyrus Kouandjio, from nearby Hyattsville, to stay home and NOT join his brother at Alabama.
Lack of Football tradition I say....
That is going to be pretty hard to do, b/c of the lack of football tradition UMD doesn’t have! It’s going to be a hard sell
Just like the O lineman (I forgot his name) who made his announcement he was going to PSU at the ESPN zone up at the inner harbor years ago (and UMD fans were stunned), just like Derrick Williams from who went to Roosevelt up in Greenbelt (whom UMD fans thought they were scoopin’ up, but yet rolled to PSU), it’s going to be VERY difficult indeed!
he could
talk about william beatty and how he can develop him like that…uconn has had some nice talent drafted in the first few rounds
by Meraj Chowdhury on Jan 2, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Wish Edsall can have Nebrich get out of his commit to UConn
Follow in DOB’s footsteps in a few years. Saw him play – great talent…
chick
hernandez said they will attempt to keep Don Brown
by Meraj Chowdhury on Jan 2, 2011 11:18 PM EST reply actions
AD Anderson
Did a good move by bringin’ in Edsall, it’s about not having any type of controversy at all, and pretty Leach is someone that needed to be avoided.
It’s all about ‘respectability’!
I'm just glad
we’ll still have a running game. I woulda really missed that.
If Don Brown were to leave for the HC job at Elon....
I’m going to strongly consider picking a new football team to be a fan of……if Brown had any concerns with being a HC in the near future he wouldn’t have left UMass to take a DC position….Elon football?!?!? Come on….COME ON!!!
I think it would be clear that Brown wasn’t wanted in College Park if he left for Elon…Just sayin’.
I think
he is mainly looking at the Pitt/UConn job openings now…would be funny (and sucky at the same time) if he went to coach at UConn…he knows the area well…
by Meraj Chowdhury on Jan 2, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Losing Coach Brown is not the end of the world......
There are tons of defensive coaches at major programs awaiting DC positions at major schools. Bo Davis and Sal Sunseri at Alabama are two. If Coach Brown would rather be a HC at Elon, instead of pushing forth as a DC at a major program, then adios my friend.
Honestly
I’m sure some UMD fans don’t want that much of a coaching staff overhaul, but yeah if Brown wants to roll out and take his DC talents to the Elon, be my guest!
less about
don brown and more about the players. The players love him and we will lose a hell of a lot of recruits from this class (which is already not that strong as it is)…
by Meraj Chowdhury on Jan 2, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Theres no guarantee that we lose any recruits
Wait and see how this all shakes out before passing judgments like that. People were saying we’d definitely lose O’Brien with Friedgen and Franklin leaving, and he seems as on board with Edsall as anyone. Give the new coaches time to sell their current players and recruits on their vision for the program.
But Like I Said........
First, no one knows for sure if UMD loses ANY recruits. UMD may GAIN a lot of recruits. They are getting a coach who has won more games since being in the Big East than Fridge did in the ACC (since 2004). A coach who was able to beat West Virginia last year, a team that destroyed our Terps last season. A Big East Championship coach who just took his team to the Orange Bowl. A young energetic coach who will be here for the foreseeable future…..Fridge’s days were numbered regardless of what has transpired. For every negative woulda, coulda, shoulda, is a positive possibility and/or probability. Edsall gets to start rolling THIS week, which I think is fantastic. I’d like to see a near complete overhaul….get in some fresh blood. Let’s roll with this.
Heck Yeah!
I’m estatic! The only thing better than having a Coughlin Protege’ is having a Saban disciple!
Young enough that he could easily be here for the next 10-15 years
and thats only 3 years older than Leach
Oh Come On. 52 is not that old….look at Nick Saban. The point is, the guy is electric. The last time I have seen this much negativity, was when Bama was Coach searching.
I hope it wasnt the pirate thing or some of the other quirkier aspects of Leach that caused the cold feet
The Adam James ordeal and some of the other NCAA allegations (which admittedly i know little about)? Sure. But i’d be disappointed if it was just because he’s a bit odd.
Agreed
UMD doesn’t need the headache from all the negative publicity coming from Leach, but HEY ppl wanted this BIG SPLASH but for all the wrong reasons!
SMH!
easy there
I am an elon grad and our program has been consistently in the top 25 the past 3 years…. Ofcourse its d1-aa but still. Great school. Not to mention the tuition there is almost 40k a year so they have the money to pay him. Edsall is a defensive coach so I doubt brown is staying. And if md is gonna lose him it might as well be to a smaller school. Let him have a chance to make a name for himself like edsall did. Vandy I would be irritated at bc that means franklin would steal recruits. Just hope the recruits decide to stay put. Also with edsall leaving uconn we have a chance to purge their top talent. What’s their class look like?
by Charlotte NC Terp on Jan 2, 2011 11:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The same as maryland two and three star recruits im still trying to figure out how james franklin is considered a good national recruiter
by valenciais1 on Jan 3, 2011 7:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Forget The Name.....
If any school looking for a new coach, were told they could get a HC that took a Div I-AA school to an AQ BCS Conference, and won that conference’s championship TWICE with an Orange Bowl Berth……fans of those schools would be estatic. Throw in the fact that the HC had served for three years as a coach in the NFL, and that he was a protege’ of Tom Coughlin at both Syracuse and a very successful Boston College, and those fans would exceed estatic. But Maryland fans are disappointed? WHAT DO YOU WANT? Nick Saban? Tom Coughlin himself? Not gonna happen….but Randy Edall has! I am also a Troy Alum, which has had tremendous success since transitioning to the Sun Belt Conference from Div I-AA…..but nothing like what UConn has achieved under Edsall. I’m most impressed with the fact that UConn beat SEC foe South Carolina in last year’s bowl game. GREAT, GREAT Hire! Eat your heart out Hurricanes….you had to settle for Al Golden!
I like the hire and happy for a run game...
I am a run the ball/play good defense guy. I really hope we can become the Wisconsin of the ACC. That is how you upset these team powerhouse teams by running the ball. If Don Brown leave then I would like for us to hire a NFL defensive position coach. Maybe even someone from the Ravens or Redskins to get recruits.
This is the excitement Ken Anderson talked about?
Only time will tell if hiring Edsall is a good move.
What is confusing though is the stated reasons behind changing coaches in the first place. If the Terps brought in Mike Leach it’s a huge gamble. He could have led them to becoming a National power or fizzled out completely, however the risk was worth it to show that Maryland was willing to make a big move.
Hiring Edsall seems to be a safe, conservative hire. He is a defensive oriented coach and definitely doesn’t produce excitment in watching his team’s play.
Supposedly the new coach was being hired to generate excitement in the program and fill the stadium. No doubt Mike Leach is exciting. However what makes Maryland think that hiring a conservative, bland coach is going to excite the fan base and make Maryland must see football. I don’t see it…
by warnerjohn on Jan 3, 2011 1:43 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Good comments….and you are correct. The AD’s comments about bringing excitement does not fit the hire. There is no argument that Leach would generate more fan support, but I believe Edsall, for the reasons you mentioned, brings an overall better product. A defensive strategy, with hopefully a ball control running attack. As for filling the stadium, if Ralph couldn’t do it, can anyone? He was also considered an offensive genius when he was hired. A major BCS conference program should be filling a 50K seat stadium easily….especially considering how many students and alum, from UMD and UMUC are in the local area.
Leach
Leach lovers get over it. It was not meant to be. You cannot move forward by only throwing the ball. Edsall is a good hire and stresses a balanced offense with good defense. Lets back Randy Edsall and stop lamenting a pass happy coach who carried too much baggage. Welcome Randy Edsall and fall in line Terp Fans.
I CAN'T WAIT...
…to see the new UA uni’s that is.
I hope they live up to at least half the hype our coaching search generated.
National media
Wow, we are getting killed in the national media about this hire. The funny thing is they are saying the same thing most fans are saying…if this was the choice, why not just extend Ralph?
Edsall is not a bad coach, he is just too much like Ralph right down to the mediocre recruiting. I know he was at UCONN but his recruiting never really got better over time.
Good to great my azz…
At first I was "OK" with the hire
But the more I think about it, WTF
As for recruiting, he had NR players in the early going, but has evolved to two, three and even a the occasional four star recruit. This season, he has all two and three star recruits committed, with recruits coming from Georgia, Florida, Maryland, Virginia, and Mass. Last year he recruited these areas as well as Pennsylvania, Illinois, New York and New Hampshire. Prior to that, add recruits from Texas and California. I’d say he has done a great job considering where he was trying to recruit to. The most impressive thing about the negative comments regarding his recruiting, is that he won the Big East twice with his recruits…..so, either he recruits well, or he is one heck of a football coach. Maryland should be an easier sale than UConn.
or the Big East is a second tier conference lol
by darthredskin on Jan 3, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Which is Also True....lol
but beating the teams in that second tier conference, with UConn, is pretty impressive to me. No powerhouses there, but still decent teams. BTW….Edsall also won Coach of the Year in the Big Easy.
Nice ESPN Article by Dinich
“The reason you know about Connecticut football — even if you only acknowledge that it exists — is because of Randy Edsall.
He is a proven winner. His teams are disciplined. He elevated the Huskies from an FCS program to a BCS bowl. And yet …
Yawn?
Edsall is the antitheses of Mike Leach. He was a safe hire. The only baggage he brings to College Park is the suitcases he’ll pack. He will win at Maryland, recruit hard and re-energize the program. Fill seats? Sell suites? Not overnight. Maybe in time, as a consistent contender for the ACC title, but this is a fickle fan base to win over, and Edsall will have to make his splash first with championships — not his name.
After all, Maryland just hired the Big East Coach of the Year to replace the ACC Coach of the Year. It packs as much punch as, say, a Maryland win over Rutgers. But with Edsall in College Park, the Terps will beat more than just the Rutgers of the world. They’ll contend with the best teams in the ACC and challenge for the Atlantic Division. "
http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/20602/randy-edsall-not-a-flashy-hire-but-a-good-one
He has a losing record against Rutgers. He is 20-26 in Big East play if I’m not mistaken. Take for what it’s worth. I still can not buy the logic of well he was at Uconn with no talent so he’ll be better here.
He’s been there 10 + years. The talent that is there he brought – so expect to see the same results here. He recruits hard – he just doesn’t have any success at it. In end all that matters are results not how hard you work – and his results don’t add up to this being a smart move.
Edsall has had No Success?
Uh…..taking a Div 1-AA basketball school team, virtually unknown in football, to a Div I-A BCS Conference and win two out of the last four conference championships? Winning three out of 5 Bowl Games in the process? Winning Big East Coach of the Year? No success? That’s like taking a VW and winning a Nascar event. As for losing to Rutgers, he did beat West Virginia this season…..how did the Terps do against the Mountaineers? As for Fridge, since his first three seasons of winning with Vanderlinden’s players, he had 4 out of 7 losing seasons with his own recruits. Fact.
How many times have you read that they are “not comparable situations?” Twenty, thirty times? Because I know that’s around as many times as I’ve read it on the various comment threads, and I’m assuming we’re reading the same things. Anyways, IT’S TRUE. They are not comparable situations! If results are all that matter (independent of situation) why not hire the Villanova’s coach, he won the national championship last year and made it to the semis this year. And expecting to see the same results in recruiting here as at UConn is ignorant. Recruiting is extremely dependent on the university to which you recruit. Taking the recruiting results for Edsall at Uconn as is, without considering the situation he was in at a school with little to no tradition and in a talent poor area, is nonsensical. By the same logic, you would expect a coach of an A10 basketball team (like say, Temple) who was hired at a national basketball power (like say, Duke) to continue to bring in only 3, occasionally 4, star guys even though he is now recruiting to Duke instead of to Temple. Or perhaps you believe that that is actually the case?!
by FearTheTurtIe on Jan 3, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
As I read more, I am starting to like this hire more and more. This is a good article from the WaPost, who asks Mike Farrel (leading recruting analyst for Rivals) what he thinks about the hire. I’d have to say I agree with him, and I am really excited for next season. I think Edsall is an outstanding coach who will take the program in the right direction and I also think he was an excellent hire.
Oops, forgot to link the article. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/terrapins-insider/2011/01/mike_farrell_randy_edsall_will.html
Also, I really am flabbergasted by all the negativity. Sure, we didn’t hire a splashy name coach like Leach, but saying that Edsall is a lateral move from Ralph is inaccurate. This is a guy who had the same success as Ralph but he was coaching at UCONN instead of at Maryland. It is not a huge stretch of the imagination to speculate that Edsall could have won 11-12 games this year with this team. I think the program is an a great position to move forward, and I couldn’t be more excited.
by FearTheTurtIe on Jan 3, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Just to mention this comment I saw on an ESPN article on Edsall's move:
One user said that “Maryland doesn’t seem like that much of an upgrade..”
And I would not be surprised if the commentator isn’t the only non-Maryland fan/student/alum that feels that way. We aren’t a Shelby Cobra. We are a VW Jetta. We are reliable, we work, but we aren’t flashy and people are not falling over themselves to drive us. I know that I’ve gotten so caught up in and excited over the HC search that I forgot that we have an average-at-best reputation in football so I thought I’d mention this in case some of you forgot as well.
Unfortunately, you are very much correct. Most non-Maryland fan/student/alum rate ACC foes FSU, Miami, GaTech, VaTech, Virginia, Clemson, and Boston College as better football programs and environments than Maryland…..and some would even include NC and NCState in that list. Hopefully, Edsall will change some of that thinking, but I don’t know if he will immediately draw fan support…..maybe winning will.
This is one of the biggest concerns hiring him
People keep saying that he will have better recruits here then he did at Uconn. While that may be true to some small degree. MD is a hard place to recruit [keeping talent home]. So hit may work harder – it doesn’t mean that location will change the results.
I hope Nebrich decommits...
follow in DOB’s footsteps to provide QB continuity – that is what was missing many of Fridge’s .500 seasons…
His brother is named Duke for god's sake
I have no problem with the hire, but I do not think it will have the effect that KA talked about. My donations will no longer be split between, the M Club, Terrapin Club and Fastbreakers. It will ALL go to Fastbreakers. Season tickets will not be renewed, I will root for the kids from home. This is more of a protest against KA than Edsall. Anything Edsall did at Uconn or Leach did at TT does not guarantee they would do that at MD. Maryland had the chance to make a big splash, but I see just a ripple in the water. My opinion is that Leach could do more with less, and like it or not MD football will never be the premier destination for 5 star kids. I have no idea if Leach would have won more than Edsall will, but I do know I would have driven 4 hours to be in the stands. I won’t spend my Sat. driving and sitting in traffic to watch boring football. Just my opinion. Good luck Randy. Go Terps.
Egg on your face...
I have no idea if Leach would have won more than Edsall will, but I do know I would have driven 4 hours to be in the stands
Given that the only proven way to put tails in the seats is to win consistently, I’d think you’’d want to hire a coach that you feel will win the most games. Besides, Leach can’t make it exciting if he’s getting his ass fired for making more stupid comments. We get covered by the Washington Post, which is a far more adversarial paper than the Lubbock Avalance-Journal. His (Leach’s) shtick won’t fly here.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 4, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
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