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Maryland Minute - 09.08.10 - Terps Behaving Badly?

Apparently students were being bad again at the Navy game. Whoever it was, cursing at the Mids is pretty stupid, if it happened. But regardless of what happened, I'm tired of Maryland being the only college that gets in trouble about cursing or having a bonfire or celebrating after a big win. It happens at just about every major college. But we're in the Baltimore-DC metro area, so it gets magnified 1,000 times any time we do something wrong. And because this game was against Navy, it's getting a lot of attention, especially after all of the stories regarding the "finger" incident that allegedly stopped the game from being played for 40 years (as an aside, I'm pretty sure the Mids deserved getting the finger in 64, considering they were shouting racist comments at one of our players, which made him respond the way he did). I might be alone on an island here with this, but I've never understood people who get offended by words. They're words. Who cares? This rant was inspired by:

The Diamondback - Staff editorial: Terps will be Terps

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Good piece on Meggett and Da'Rel.

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Okay, let's get this out of the way: he focuses strongly on what's on paper and the strength of schedule. And as far as beating teams that are supposed to be good, there's Boise, TCU, LSU, Utah, and maybe Fresno, Michigan, BYU, and South Carolina. That's about it. Oh, and Maryland. Hey, I'll take it.

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there was a lot of outrage

over booing and negative things to the effect of “you suck” being said from md fans to the navy fans. before the game there was some smack talking going on between md and navy students and some people were flipping out beacuse they took it as a disrespect to the US armed forces. it was made a huge deal by both people at the game and in some of the comments Loh said after.

as a fan i think its crazy for people to take smack talk and make it that serious to the effect of considering it it unpatriotic. i think i speak for a lot of the vocal students and fans when i say it was merely a fan of one football team smack talking another fan and his/her football team (back and forth)

by t.shug on Sep 9, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup

To make any correlation between College Football smack talking (in a local rivalry game) and students being unpatriotic is ridiculous. Loh and others are reading way too deeply into the situation.

by DT711 on Sep 9, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with 'Terps will be Terps' and t shug

Maryland fans aren’t exactly kind to their opposing fans or the opposing team. That isn’t anything new and it’s part of what makes it hard to play in College Park (or Baltimore). It doesn’t change just because they are part of the armed forces. I tailgated with a few Navy fans and enlisted men and everything was genial and friendly. But that doesn’t mean we didn’t give them the asshole chant or say F’ Navy to a few retired officers. Loh needs to cool it with trying to enlighten us uncivilized, drunkard students or quite frankly, I’m gonna start a F’ Loh chant during Morgan State.

by PAB522 on Sep 9, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's bullcrap....Mote would've just shrugged it off

I understand Loh is trying to improve the image of the University (see this year’s University ranking), but I think that’s ridiculous. You know being a student here I love being part of the crowd throwing in a swear here and there, but it’s all in good fun and never gets out of hand (except Duke basketball that’s a whole different beast).

by TerpsAllTheWay on Sep 9, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should have let them win. Seriously. It is totally ridiculous for us to try and score against them. Doing so only makes our entire nation look week.

by nmprisons on Sep 10, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Navy

sucks! Also, F’ Navy! That’s right, I said it! Oh yeah, dook SUCKS too!

by Hey Yo! on Sep 9, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Go to the

Army – Navy game and report on the insults hurled at each other there! " Hey you Suck" is NOTHING compared to what gets yelled at that game! What a bunch of hypocrites and cry-babies!

by Hey Yo! on Sep 9, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

One more thing

These are PUBLIC events which draw many tens of thousands of people and the chances of you seeing, hearing, and/or touching something that is not copacetic is nearly 100%. If you can’t handle being in large crowds and the accompanying “colors” associated with that environment, then you should stay home and NEVER leave. Jeebus, were these dook fans complaining? Seriously, grow some skin and get over yourself!

by Hey Yo! on Sep 9, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I was sitting in the student section and heard very little of this. In fact, when one student yelled “Fuck Navy” a few other students were like “Dude don’t say that, say fuck Navy football.”

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by s.r.genovese on Sep 9, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Other Schools practices

I live in Tennessee and I can recall when Lane Kiffin announced his resignation from UT to head back to USC last year, there were several death threats aimed towards Kiffin and his family. I understand in the heat of the moment things are said that other wise would not be announced. I think a death threat is a little more serious then saying a bad word at a football game to your opponents fan base. I love how MD is looked at so negatively when it comes to our fans. I also recall a certain Mississippi State Bball game last year when some fans were taunting Cousins from UK about hanging his ass outside the basketball dome, now that in my eyes is a bit excessive.

Oh well the Terps are 1-0 and should be 2-0 facing WVU in a couple weeks. I will warn fans at the WVU game ahead of time, there may be a couple bads words said between those two sides.

GO TERPS!!!

by El Goodd Terps13 on Sep 9, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course it would

be Navy people complaining, they would NEVER survive an Army bootcamp, they would passout just from thevacubulary of the Drill Sgt! Bunch of wussies!

by Hey Yo! on Sep 9, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

New AD Kevin Anderson

Is that you?

Is Ralph Friedgen fired yet?
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?

by ES46NE10 on Sep 9, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

god damn hipsters

The fucking hipsters of the world are trying to keep us bros down with their vinyl records and designer jeans. If i want to verbally abuse someone, then they just have to stop being such pussies and man up

by hooshman on Sep 9, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

fucking hate hipsters man

by PAB522 on Sep 9, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn vinyl jeans, destroying the ozone and making people into jello. Jello needs a spine.

by Hey Yo! on Sep 9, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been to the last 7 Army/Navy games

And have never heard either student section shout obscenities at the other academy. Maybe they do, but I’ve never heard it. Nor has my wife who has gone every year but one since 1994 (her brother attended). But (!!), this would be like brothers cursing at each other, instead of a school that doesn’t fully appreciate the fact that the entire student body has made the willing choice to be sent to Iraq or Afghanistan etc during a time of war (props to USMA and USAF as well; though those USAF peeps get the most flack from USNA and USMA for how easy life during school is).

My wish (as someone who has not served in the military) is that students would have shouted “… you SERVE” instead of anything else, as an intelligent twist on a tradition I could honestly do without. I do love the intensity of the chant. And also agree that we got a lot of undeserved flack for it.

But, our students do have a rather strong propensity to throw out the “BS!” chant, and did multiple times on Saturday (I was sitting behind them in the upper bowl, so maybe they were extra loud to me).

Maybe I’m a pansy, but I wish we could show our spirit using less offensive terms, and less profanity. But that’s just me, and I’m sure the student population could care less

Props to Dave for mentioning, what is ALWAYS ignored, what were the guaranteed offensive remarks of the USNA student body and fans back in the day. I’m sure there were plenty of n-words and Jew comments thrown about. I think that helps explain Fishman’s continued anger (which a certain Jewish Washington Post, radio and tv commentator would be good to remember).

To the comment about WVU: I fully agree. That’s one of the worst hell holes in the NCAA to go into. There’s a reason all opposing coaches tell their players to keep their helments on. Empty liquor bottles (bourbon) WILL be thrown at players. Yet this act of violence is ALWAYS ignored. BS! BS! BS!

by ckstevenson on Sep 9, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with what you said about the "bullshit" chant.

Its overused, and students even shout it when the call is CLEARLY right, and that just makes us seem stupid.

As for the cursing at Navy football, I think it is definitely being blown it a little out of proportion. This was a chant in a SPORTING EVENT. It was all in good jest and had NOTHING to do with them serving our country. The ENTIRE student section and ALL Maryland supporters cheered loud as hell when the UMD-sponsored message saying “the Terps salute you” to Navy played on the jumbotron. Nothing wrong with chants throughout the game, though. I saw no Terp fans being blatantly inappropriate before or after the game, so I have nothing wrong with the so-called “disrespectful” chants.

by kckb8 on Sep 10, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

call me old fashioned or conservative

but i’m sick of our idiot students and fans

i hate that we have a trashy rep

by bloodwatermission on Sep 10, 2010 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Take the bad with the good.

Yeah, the students say some dumb, disrespectful things sometimes. So do students at every school.

BUT we are also ranked in the top 5 EVERY year for best athletic support. So I’ll take that.

by kckb8 on Sep 10, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leave the vicious chants for when they are deserved.

Duke is the only time I think it’s warranted, they deserve it and I’m screaming along too. But otherwise, keep it respectful. Are we going to shout F-U at morgan st.? It’s not necessary. NAVY peeps are good peeps, no need to get ugly.

by 1 proud terp on Sep 10, 2010 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed.

It says a lot about our where our football program is if we have to treat Navy like it’s a duke basketball game.

This has nothing to do with being a “hipster” or “pansy” as some people on the board would put it.

It has more to do with being an intelligent sports fan with a sense of pride. But I guess we aren’t there yet since that would require a history of winning.

If we ever become perennial winners, I would hope that we don’t have to resort to name calling against teams like Navy to get our kicks.

by testudo4lunch on Sep 10, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

at the same time

shouting cuss words is not original and other schools do it it too. You can’t call any of our chants original or creative except maybe rock n roll part II.

Come up with something original before you use the “school spirit” defense.

If anything, we deserve criticism for being unoriginal.

by testudo4lunch on Sep 10, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The F' Navy Chant

was shot down big time in section 115 at the game by STUDENTS… the reason it was hear “boisterously” was that 115 was the last student section before normal fan seating… it was a bunch of drunk freshmen who were verbally repremanded by the upperclassmen… give our section credit it was us who also started the We Want FAUST chants… cuz his family was right next to us.

by nowaxxy22 on Sep 10, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

We did have something original against Navy

we chanted “seamen” before the game started. I thought it was pretty clever considering that it’s a rank in the Navy… I didn’t hear the f navy chant, I must’ve been out of my seat during that. I did the we want faust chant though. Pretty sweet.

The freshmen that I was sitting near had no idea how to do any of the cheers (not even the victory song. Seriously.), and spent a lot of their time cussing until a few people told them to calm down. We just need to make sure the students that are saying crap like that are accountable. For example freshman were cursing at the soccer games but they got called out real quick by the upperclassmen (mostly leaders of the Crew). I think that’s because the soccer student section isn’t as large as the football one so it’s easy to know who is saying what aka people have accountability for the words that come out of their mouths instead of anonymity like they do at football games.

I’m glad to hear that students who were saying f—- at the game got called out. It’s not clever or intimidating. We need some new cheers ASAP…

by terp2k12 on Sep 10, 2010 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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