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Gary Williams Says Maryland Should Be Ranked, We Sort of Agree

So sayeth Gary:

"We should be ranked," he said. "I don't think that's too much of an argument. But opinions are formed. It's tough to break opinions in the way -- in other words, you'll see sliding, you know, there's like two groups. Like the top 12, they can have five or six losses sometimes and still stay in the top 12, and then in that last five there could be some changes in that with teams coming in and out, so hopefully we'll get in there if we win enough games."

Is he right? Well, rankings are a pretty subjective things, and the objective ones - like KenPom - fail to take certain things into account. So it's tough to really judge whether or not a team deserves to be in - it varies based on what a person believes is important. But let's try.

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When you look at the rankings, there are a few teams teams that appear to be less deserving of Maryland at first glance. The easiest example to look at is Northern Iowa. They're the classic ranked mid-major - great record, poor resume. Their best win would be...Siena? Boston College? Old Dominion? Other than that, Wichita State, Illinois State, Iowa State, and Missouri State are their only top 100 KenPom wins. Hardly any "names" on that list.

Usually those teams rip through their conference schedule, though, and then get ranked that way, so it's no great surprise. But Northern Iowa's conference record is 14-2; Maryland's is 9-3. And get this: they lost just three games ago, meaning their winning streak is a rather short 2 games long. Quick recovery in the polls, I guess.

Maryland has a longer winning streak, a nearly comparable conference record in a far better conference, and three top 50 wins (N. Iowa has 0). Gary might have a point here.

And there are a few other schools that are puzzlers, like Temple (who has cupcakes for a conference schedule and has lost to 100+ Charlotte) and Texas A&M (who has little in the way of a "resume win" and doesn't look very impressive at first glance). And one starts to wonder how Maryland isn't ranked.

But Maryland also needs to look at its own reality, in which they have just three top 50 wins and no wins against any team currently ranked. Does that mean they don't deserve to be ranked? Not necessarily; their resume certainly stacks up nicely in comparison to Northern Iowa. But is their ACC record alone enough to get them ranked? Are they better than a Temple team that has three top 50 wins of their own, including a win over Villanova? Or what about that average looking TAMU team that actually has four top 50 wins, including one over a team that's actually ranked right now?

I know who'd I'd pick in both matchups, but an argument can be made either way. And you can't just look at it statistically, which is one reason I didn't (that and I'm lazy, of course). It means different things to different votes, so you have to take a wide approach to them.

That's the tricky thing about rankings. Sure, certain aspects of Maryland look great, but some can look poor. I know I'd have them ranked (probably around 20), but I'm a little biased. Personally, I don't consider it any sort of great insult that they aren't included in the top 25 - we know how good they are, and that's all that matters.

But I am looking forward to someone explaining the Northern Iowa ranking to me.

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Well right now they’re beating Evansville (7-20), 5 to 2, 7 minutes into the game. So i dont know why your complaining about their ranking. 5 points in 7 minutes is a top 25 team to me. haha, what a joke

by churl77 on Feb 23, 2010 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

Ya can't lose to William and Mary and get ranked.

If only we could have a OOC do-over.

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by terp12 on Feb 23, 2010 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

WELL

William and Mary has not been counted as a bad loss for us….

by MurlandTerps on Feb 24, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I humbly take that back

I see they beat Wake too. Wow, what the hell happened to the once very proud ACC OOC domination?

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by terp12 on Feb 23, 2010 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

W&M was the perfect storm...

They were shooting lights out the first two months of the season…they have since cooled off significantly from 3p range, making them much less of an offensive threat. On top of that, we did not match up well with them b/c all but one guy on their team played on the perimeter, our freshmen bigs were not comfortable there, and Gregory was super rusty and not playing well.

We are a very different team now than we were pre-ACC play. Our defense has improved a lot. The only thing that keeps popping up to bite us is defensive rebounding.

But as for OOC domination, aside from these losses to W&M and a close loss in the ACC-Big 10 challenge, the OOC play was pretty good for the ACC.

by jellisjenius on Feb 23, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Northern Iowa won't be ranked next week

They can kiss goodbye their spot in the Top 25. I have no idea who Evansville is, but NI just lost to them. And Tennessee just got murdered by Florida. There’s two spots open for the Terps.

by Joshv37 on Feb 23, 2010 10:59 PM EST reply actions  

Always good to have the opinion of an "outsider."

Thanks for posting, Dr. B. Good to know that at least the ACC is noticing haha

Best of luck to your Tigers tonight. Your team gave us fits last time…hopefully it will be different on our home floor.

by kckb8 on Feb 24, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

9-3 in the ACC has to count for something.

The real argument is whether VT should be or shouldn’t be ranked. They’ve beaten up on a weak ACC schedule if you look at their wins and opponent records.

by DrB on Feb 24, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree.

VaTech’s SOS is horribly unimpressive. They really avoided the ACC big guns on their schedule up until this point.

by kckb8 on Feb 24, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Maryland better that Temple??

Hard to compare head to head as Maryland has a non-conference shedule that Temple would be embarrassed to play. We’re talking Charlston Southern, Fairfield, New Hampshire, Chaminade, Eastern Kentucky, Winston Salem State, Florida Atlantic, NC Greensboro and Longwood. That’s no way to get ranked. The one common opponent is Villanova. Temple won, Maryland lost. VT on Saturday for Maryland. Temple beat them by 11. Do likewise and we’ll talk. Also, the concept that Maryland plays in the he-man ACC whereas the A10 is full of “cupcakes” does not stand up to analysis. In the end, A10 puts 5 teams in, ACC 4.

by owlfan1 on Feb 25, 2010 8:21 AM EST reply actions  

I would love to see Temple go 10-3 in the ACC.

Do that and then we’ll talk.

Oh, and btw, ACC will end up with 6 teams. Not 4. (Don’t know where you got that number from…)

Duke, Maryland, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Florida State

by kckb8 on Feb 25, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I did say that Maryland wasn’t markedly better than Temple – that was the whole question section where I acknowledged the three major wins. The only team I was able to find that 100% doesn’t deserve to be ranked was N. Iowa. I have no quarrel with Temple.

Though I must say that the A-10 isn’t close to the ACC, any way you slice it. In RPI, ACC is 3rd while A-10 is 6th. KenPom, which tends to be more accurate IMO, has ACC 1st and A-10 8th. A-10 has 6 100+ teams, including one in the 300s. ACC has 4 100+ teams, including a team that’s 101, so that’s just barely 4.

Regardless, I still think that an argument can be made either way regarding Temple/Maryland. I’m sure all non Iowans can agree on the N. Iowa thing though.

by Ben Broman on Feb 25, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I previewed that thing, too

Guess I didn’t look at the title. My number is pure conjecture as is anything at this point. Duke, Wake, Maryland all have sub-30 RPIs and look good. VT at 48 is NIT bound unless they make a shocking ACC tourney run. If GT (32) and FSU (34) make it, it will be precisely because they are from the ACC and resting on past laurels. Year in and year out the ACC is far better than the A10 and it would be pointless even to discuss it. This year that’s just not true. They are comparable. Look at the numbers. I’m being a bit disingenuous asking for an 11 point win Saturday as Temple won at a neutral site and Maryland must go to Blacksburg. Let’s call it 7.

by owlfan1 on Feb 25, 2010 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

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