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Cliff Tucker, Sean Mosley, and the Grapple for Minutes

The most effective player in the first half against Duke wasn't Landon Milbourne, or Eric Hayes, or even Greivis Vasquez. It wasn't Adrian Bowie, and it certainly wasn't Sean Mosley. No, it was Cliff Tucker.

Of course, that's not saying much, because no one was particularly good. Still, for a team that couldn't score, Tucker came in and immediately hit two buckets. He ended up with 12 points, second only to Greivis Vasquez and the only Terp other than Vaz to get double-digits.

Quite a few people, on message boards, in comments here, and in the real world, have recently called for Tucker to get more playing time, and maybe even move into the starting lineup, taking over most notably for Sean Mosley. Even if he doesn't secure a starting spot, more PT would be welcomed by many, and most of those minutes would be coming from Mosley.

And why not? Tucker is notorious as a quick scorer, and Maryland has lacked points outside of Greivis Vasquez for stretches at a time. It's not as if Mosley's been looking great in ACC play; quite the contrary, he's been looking worse and worse by the day. So why not replace Mosley, a offensively struggling player, with Tucker, who can occasionally light it up?

The argument makes sense. But unfortunately, it's a rather one-sided, short-sighted look at the situation.

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Over the course of the year, Mosley has outperformed Tucker in almost every major category. In the ACC, that's not the case: Tucker is significantly more productive by minute when it comes to points. Over 40 minutes, Tucker would score 18.26 points; Mosley, just 11.08. Surprisingly, Tucker has even turned it over less per minute than Sugar Sean - over 40 minutes, Tucker would turn it over 1.88 times, as opposed to Mosley's 2.94. So, yes, if scoring and turnovers are the biggest problem with this team, then starting Tucker would make sense.

Seeing how Maryland just lost to Duke mostly thanks to missed FGs (scoring) and turnovers, it's not surprising that people would want the change to be made.

The biggest problems on this team, though, aren't turnovers and scoring. They're in the top 30 in fewest TOs in the nation, and they're in the top 50 in eFG%. They're in the top 3 in the ACC in both categories. Adding a little bit more to these categories isn't going to help things.

So we have to turn to the rest of their games to figure out the difference, and Mosley holds a decided advantage everywhere else. Despite turning the ball over more, he also is a much bigger part of the team offense; Tucker has just two assists all ACC season. That's good for .62 over the course of 40 minutes, and an A/TO ratio of .33. Mosley has nearly 4 assists per 40 minutes, and his A/TO ratio is 1.35 in ACC play. Bring Tucker on more than Mosley, and an important cog of the offense disappears.

So then we look further down, to rebounding. Mosley has regressed offensively, but on the boards he's the team's second most efficient rebounder, behind only Jordan Williams. Over 40 minutes, he'd grab nearly 10 rebounds. Tucker? 3. And if you watched the Duke game, you'd know that rebounding is a major weakness of this team. That's backed up statistically, too; they're last place in the ACC in defensive rebounding %. That's actually the biggest weakness of the team, and taking away Mosley would only exacerbate it.

This isn't even factoring in defense, which is Mosley's specialty. Only Adrian Bowie would challenge him for the best on-ball defender on the team, while Cliff has never been confused with a lockdown guy. Nor is it factoring in loose balls, which Mosley comes up with more of than anyone else on the team. And to add a compliment to Tucker in here, he provides great scoring off the bench. Every team needs an offensive sparkplug that can come in during crucial moments, and Mosley doesn't provide that. Tucker does.

My last point here has to do with the future. When Vasquez is gone next year, this team will be unquestionably Sean Mosley's. SSM will suddenly be The Man, and he'll carry them as far as they go. The more practice and ACC playing time he has, the quicker he'll acclimate to that. I love Cliff, but this team will never be his.

Did the call for more PT for CT make some sense? Yes, but it was looking at one side of the argument.

For what it's worth, I do believe that Tucker deserves more steady playing time. He doesn't need to get 25 minutes a game, but he deserves more than 7. This was mostly to remind people of Tucker's flaws and Mosley's strengths.

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Next year...

…We will be even more guard-heavy. With Stoglin and Pe’Shon coming in, in addition to Bowie, Tucker and Mosley, we will (as usual) have a lot of pretty good guards who can potentially all be interchangeable. Of the three on the team currently, it is Tucker who has been the best offensive player, but Mosley is by far the most valuable in his defending ability and reliability in general.

I think we’d all like Mosley to be “The Man” on the team next year, but I don’t think it’s going to be. I think Tucker will end up as one of our top 2 scorers next year, like it or not. So I agree that he should be playing more. Already, he is the first guard off the bench.

I think he should indeed be starting, but not at the expense of Sean Mosley. I know everyone thinks so highly of Eric Hayes, but Hayes has nothing Tucker doesn’t. Tucker is a better athlete, a more versatile scorer, a better defender IMO and way better at creating shots for himself and his teammates because he can actually dribble with both hands (seriously, Hayes can’t go left. We can count on one hand the amount of times he’s gone left for a basket in his career.)

Hayes is a streaky shooter, and those kind of players are money when they come off the bench. I know he’s a senior, but Tucker is a player who is only good when he’s in a rhythm. When he’s streaking, keep him in. When he’s not, put Hayes in. It seems like Tucker and Bowie always play together, but they don’t compliment each other as much as Vasquez and Tucker do because they can both do something with the basketball and take defensive attention off the other. No one is worried about Hayes penetrating or Bowie shooting from distance, so opponents’ defensive plans can be one-dimensional yet successful.

In short, start Tucker. But never at the expense of Mosley; do it at the expense of Eric Hayes, whose contributions to this team are extraordinarily overrated. He’s a great kid and has a beautiful shot, but he has never developed into what people think he is.

by mmford10 on Feb 14, 2010 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

Valid points

Quick counterpoints: simply for clarification, the reason I said it’ll be Mosley’s team is because 1) Gary has never seemed to like CT, and 2) Mosley is the one with the potential. I love Cliff, but he’s never struck me as a 17 ppg type of guy. Mosley isn’t now, but he could be and was in HS. If Mosley turns out not to be The Man, we’ll have bigger problems than figuring out if we made the right decision here. I have worries he can do it as well, but if he’s not it, I honestly don’t think CT will be able to pick it up adequately.

As for Hayes, his two biggest strenghts are weaknesses for CT. Hayes is a 45% 3 point shooter from deep. Tucker’s 31%. That’s just too big a drop in 3 point shooting to justify, IMO. Hayes is also extremely careful with the ball (usually). Tucker is renowned for boneheaded decisions, even though he’s cutting back. And let’s face it: benching Hayes at this point simply just isn’t going to happen, not at this junction. I personally don’t believe it should happen, either, but that’s just me.

And the Hayes/Vaz combo actually works pretty well, because Hayes is usually lights up from deep when he’s open. Vaz is doubled so often and can get into the lane at will, and Hayes is there to get those kickouts. The fact of the matter is that Maryland has 3 penetrators and 1 shooter; it’ll be lopsided any way you cut it. Vaz gets into the lane much more than Bowie, so I’d rather have the more consistent shooter taking those open looks.

by Ben Broman on Feb 14, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Horsesh*t

 Hayes is not “extraordinarily overrated” – when he is on the court we are a better team, and that is backed up by numerous measures, including plus/minus. This post is frankly a whole lot of hot air. Did you just make this stuff up? Hayes can go to his left – he doesn’t do it often, but he’s certainly done it enough times to need more than one hand. And he does something that Tucker is horrible at – he runs the offense. He gets people the ball in position to score, and he has developed a nice mid-range runner for when he is being overguarded on the perimeter.

I think, conversely, that Hayes is extremely UNDERrated. I can’t believe you just wrote all that text and actually said nothing valid after the first paragraph.

by jellisjenius on Feb 15, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

I thought about my last post and realized I came on too strong. I do feel very strongly about the quality contributions Hayes has given us — especially this year and the end of last year — but that’s no excuse to be hostile. So my apologies for that.

As a little further response to the comment about Hayes being “overrated”, I would argue that my experience with people on message boards and blog comments (maybe not here but elsewhere) has been overwhelmingly bent towards bashing Hayes and talking about him as if he is worthless. I still remember former Sun Terps correspondent Don Markus (thank God it’s “former”, he was terrible) actually spreading baseless rumors about Hayes transferring out after his sophomore year, and otherwise pushing for Hayes to transfer etc. That’s just one example. But when I look at Hayes I see a guy who stays within his role — sometimes to a fault, as there is a time for taking more initiative — and provides a steadying influence, especially on the offensive end. This really helps us against certain types of opponents. In all, it’s not just a jump shot that he provides. There’s more than one reason he plays 30-35 minutes a game, and it’s not just about Gary playing favorites.

by jellisjenius on Feb 15, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I see Tucker leading the team in scoring next year

Mosely is excelling at all the intangibles, and had a great start offensively, but if he was going to be a consistent offensive threat it wouldve happened already. If these 2 get equal minutes Tucker will outscore him hands down. Whether or not Gary is confident enough in the rest of CT’s game will determine his minutes, and this argument next yr.

by Sephtical on Feb 14, 2010 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

and I do think SM should be starting this yr.

We need his hustle/ clean up plays. He is the ‘Glue’ player that every team needs.

by Sephtical on Feb 14, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep starting 5 as is but more PT for CT

I agree with a lot you said, but it is hard to compare stats over a 40 min game with one player that gets over 25 mins per game as to one who gets less than 10 most of the time. If a guy is playing over 25 mins is stats are going to be so much different than say someone playing 10-11 mins per game. I don’t really feel a player can get into the flow of a game playing 5 mins per half, in some cases he may only touch the ball a few times in those mins. Basketball is a fast game, points, rebounds, assist and turn overs can happen in bunches in a very short time. A guy that comes in and plays 5-6 mins in a half does not nearly have the same chances or touches to compile stats as someone playing 15mins a half. I don’t think stats can translate into 40 mins per game stats. You have seen it yourself. A player is playing 15mins per game and averaging 8 pts, 3 assist and 4 rebounds. If you doubled his playing time to 30 mins, the chances of his stats doubling across the board is very unlikely.

by rave3434 on Feb 15, 2010 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

CT

I just remember being really excited at the end of last season about how Cliff Tucker could really step up and contribute as a junior. Its disappointing for whatever reasons that he hasn’t either improved enough during practice or gotten enough PT. Our starting lineup is working right now, but we need CT to establish himself as a scorer and with around 18-20 min a game if he’ll have a real shot at being one of our big time guys next year. still feeling big game for milbourne on Monday

by amoskowi on Feb 15, 2010 1:40 AM EST reply actions  

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