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Maryland Takes Wake Forest to Overtime, But Falls 85-83

This is ACC basketball at its finest. Yes, Maryland lost, which sucks, but it's ACC basketball. They'll get a win on a game like this, too. This game wasn't supposed to be this close - Wake needed 45 minutes to get the win, and that was better than expected. In the end, it was a number of things that did Maryland in, but it's better to be there than not.

This game was a display of Gary Williams' teams' traditional persistence. Wake Forest, for most of the game, outplayed Maryland and held a lead since mid-way through the first quarter. Never, never did Maryland get out of the game, through nothing but their own will for most of it. In the end, against the odds, they had a shot to win it. They didn't convert, the game went on for another five minutes, and they didn't have the time to make it happen.

Greivis Vasquez was, for the most part, good again and extended his streak of 20+ point games - now up to 7 - but he wasn't quite as impressive as he was against FSU. A little more inconsistent, a few more turnovers, and his free throw shooting was surprisingly off. Toward the end of the first half and early second, he was really forcing some plays and it hurt. On Maryland's final three possessions, he took three bad threes, and that really sunk their hopes at the end. He needs to make more out of those situations than chucking up bad threes, because it takes Maryland - and his teammates - out of the game. He's at his best driving and occasionally kicking - no reason for him not to do that there.

One of the biggest problems, on the other hand, was the lack of any player other than Vasquez as a consistent offensive threat. Eric Hayes was ignored for much of the game. Landon Milbourne was as quiet as can be; matching up with Al-Farouq Aminu proved difficult for him on both ends of the floor. Both showed up late, but having them take pressure of Vasquez earlier might've kept this from an extra period.

Vasquez is good, but not that good. Maryland won't win a lot of games when Vasquez is as alone as he was today. 

On a happier note, Eric Hayes got his 1000th career point today, and I couldn't have thought of a better way for it to happen. He scraped past the century mark for his career with a clutch 3 that gave Maryland a 2 point lead with less than two minutes to go. Hayes has always been understated, but the way he reached 1000 was not. Congrats to him on a great career.

Jordan Williams was moderately effective offensively and defensively, sometimes great and sometimes average. And, oh yeah, he dunked. Twice. That was the dunk barrier for JWill; hopefully he keeps it up. Unfortunately, he was average at best on the boards, and the lankier, higher jumping Deacs grabbed boards at will. Dino Gregory, for the first time against a big opponent, outperformed Jordan. That will need to improve. Everything else is already in place.

There were too many problems to touch on here, but two of the ones that really stuck out were defensive rebounding and defending the fast break. Wake torched MD in both of the categories: it wasn't a rare sight for Wake to get multiple opportunities to shoot (generally caused by a weak zone) or get easy points on the break. Both need to be worked on. (Oh, and free throw shooting. That was baaaad.)

Sean Mosley was quiet offensively in a game when Maryland really needed him, but he ended up with an absurd amount of rebounds and loose balls. He has the offensive ability, though the quiet performance hurt. Few players in the ACC hustle the way he does, and that's a positive. The question is whether or not he can take the big shot to win a game; he was very timid today with the ball despite being unbelievably effective in grabbing rebounds.

I would like to extend a welcome-back to Anthony...er, Adrian Bowie, who burst on the scene with 10 points and 3 steals. He doesn't need 10 every game, but performances like this off the bench are a necessity in ACC play. 

Can't win 'em all. Given the circumstances - (somewhat) hostile crowd, on the road, quick restart, against a good team, refs far from hospitable - it's not an unacceptable performance nor an unacceptable result. It sucks, but it's better than laying an egg. Feel free to discuss.

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this game hust sucked the life out of me…..soooo close

by chrisp24 on Jan 12, 2010 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

Greivis

Good game from him, but he couldn’t close out. Way too desperate of a three point attempt at the end of overtime.

by kckb8 on Jan 12, 2010 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

Adrian

Welcome back, bud. Keep up the good work.

by kckb8 on Jan 12, 2010 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

Sean

Great against sub-par competition at the beginning of the season. Has slowly fallen off track. I hope he finds his game soon.

by kckb8 on Jan 12, 2010 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

Sub-par competition?

You mean like his 26 pts against Villanova?

I do think his hot shooting early was a bit of a mirage, and he hasn’t been hitting any 3s, but otherwise I don’t think he’s lost his “game”. He did have 13 rebounds and came up with lots of loose balls tonight, compensating for a few bad TOs.

by jellisjenius on Jan 12, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Many of those turnovers were inexcusable. I am a Mosley fan but he seemed a page or two behind everyone last night (excluding rebounding).

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 13, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Eric

Looked good for the most part, but he disappeared for much of the second half. And the team didn’t really try to get him involved. Need to try to make him more of a focal point of our offense.

by kckb8 on Jan 12, 2010 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

Here’s my question. Before the ball was inbounded on the last play why didn’t the officials check the replay to see exactly how much time was left on the clock? it appeared to be about ,4 seconds left.

by fkterp on Jan 12, 2010 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Dino outplayed JW ... r u serious?

Jordan Williams was a foundation in the middle … he did miss 2 free throws but he is also a freshman in his 2nd ACC game.

by Gabes on Jan 12, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

i dont think dino outperformed jordan at all. jordan was a defensive force in the first half and performed more than satisfactorily on the offensive end.

dino was average.

by kckb8 on Jan 12, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Dino/JWill

Dino made some nice defensive plays and brought in some boards but Jordan, overall, was more impressive tonight, I thought. One stat that is a little troubling for JWill though, he only had 3 rebounds in 27 minutes of play.

by Ben Goldstein on Jan 12, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it's "troubling"

It’s one game. Jordan might be the best rebounder Gary has ever brought in, it’s his best skill. Tonight was an anomaly.

Dino seems to be in “game shape” now…the problem is, contrary to all the hype about how well he was playing in practice, he’s really no better than he was last year. Except maybe the FT shooting. He’s a bit player, a 10-12 mpg type guy who can give you a few hustle plays but generally slows down the halfcourt offense and isn’t big enough to defend guys like Aminu or Alabi. IMO he should be splitting time with Padgett, regardless of his foul situation.

by jellisjenius on Jan 13, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

The best rebounder Gary has every brought in? You really think he is a better on the boards than Baxter, Morris, or Booth? Not sure I believe that at all.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 13, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh

And Joe Smith?

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 13, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

YES

Simply, the answer is yes, though note I said “might” – I’m not 100% convinced yet. But yes, the combination of size, hands, quickness, and fundamentals make him a special rebounder. The stats back me up:
JWill (Fr) – 14.4 rb/40
Baxter(Fr) – 10.0 rb/40
Morris (Fr) – 8.8 rb/40
Booth (Fr) – 8.4 rb/40
Jo Smith (Fr) – 13.0 rb/40
Jamar Smith (Jr) – 11.2 rb/40
Ibekwe (Fr) – 11.4 rb/40

I even added two more good rebounders, Jamar Smith and Ibekwe. None of them even come close to JWill, in fact, except Joe Smith. My only question in terms of the stats is how much of an effect it has to play with an out-of-position 4 like Milbourne. His numbers may dip a bit next year if he’s playing alongside Padgett and Pankey a lot. But yes, I still think he very well might be best rebounder Gary’s ever brought in. Since you’re “not sure you believe that at all”, I’d love to know why not.

by jellisjenius on Jan 14, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

So let me get this right...

You think that JWill’s stats, at the beginning of the year, against only two conference teams, 4 top 50 RPI teams, 6 top 100 RPI teams, is comparable to a complete season of any of those players stats? I cannot agree with that. Let’s see how J Will does against other good centers (like we saw with FSU and Wake) before we grant him better than Baxter and co. who played a full ACC schedule and many good teams. That is probably why I don’t believe any of that.

Gaining good stats against bad teams is not my idea of the best rebounder Gary has ever recruited. If he keeps it up for the year (and his career), than yeah he might be.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 14, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, you got it right...

You sure are confident in your criticism for someone who clearly is unfamiliar with any kind of historical statistical trends. How about this – you find me one guy on that list, or anyone who played for Gary, who saw a significant dip in rebounding efficiency between non-conference and conference play. If you can do that, I’ll concede that there is SOME SMALL precedent for what you’re suggesting. But the trend, which you seem to be ignorant of, is that good individual D1 rebounders are good D1 rebounders regardless of the competition. There is irrefutable statistical evidence for this, which you would find if you took the time instead of just shooting from the hip to criticize my researched opinion.

I can’t believe you suggested that Morris or Booth were even close to JWill in terms of rebounding. Joe Smith is comparable overall, Jamar Smith and Ibekwe were comparable in terms of defensive rebounding, but I don’t see where your skepticism comes from.

by jellisjenius on Jan 15, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW, I was talking about rebounding at the time

That was my fault, I wrote this quickly during the game and that was an error in not being specific enough. Dino was, for the first time all year, better than Jordan in that category, and JW was average on the boards tonight. In my defense, it was right after the rebounding section of that paragraph.

And I wasn’t disappointed with Dino tonight. He’s not an offensive force, but he’s not playing terribly right now.

by Ben Broman on Jan 13, 2010 6:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Dino/Jwill

Sorry to beat a dead horse here, I know I’m a little late—but I am pretty consistently disappointed with Dino and impressed with JWill. I think last night Dino got 4 boards and JWill got 3; neither of those numbers are great, but in the long run I think JWill is by far the better rebounder (and scorer). For example I keep seeing them set that low screen for Dino so he gets a shot from about foul line range, and I think I’ve seen him hit it once since he’s been back.

by GoTerpsBaby on Jan 13, 2010 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

A disappointing loss

Still, it was an entertaining game.

Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Is Vinny Del Negro fired yet?

by ES46NE10 on Jan 12, 2010 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

SCHD

 Should be 3-1 after beating BC and NC ST. Which brings up a BIG game W/ MIAMI at home, then I think GW starts showing his MAGIC!!! Now that they can play on the road. Way to go ANTHONY!!

by PADGE on Jan 13, 2010 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

Florida State

coming up big.

Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Is Vinny Del Negro fired yet?

by ES46NE10 on Jan 13, 2010 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

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