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AAU and High School: The Debate

A few days ago, Outside the Lines had a very good piece on AAU hoops and the controversy surrounding it. While I'll discuss it below, here's the videos themselves:

Fran Fraschilla had a nice companion piece to go along with the video, which is - unsurprisingly - negative towards AAU.

This is clearly a heated debate. There are those that see great things in AAU, like the ability to play against the best of the best and the all-star mentality. There are those that see the good in HS basketball, like the passion and structure. Both have positives, both have drawbacks. AAU coaches are often more selfish, with their own interests in mind. High school coaches can be too controlling and the HS game doesn't allow enough showcasing of talent.

There's no doubt AAU detracts from HS basketball. Players are less focused, as they have another system to worry about. They probably will become less coachable, and transferring from high school to high school has become commonplace.

Gary William's dislike of AAU is well-documented, particurarly in the three-part series in the WaPo a couple of moths ago (the link is to the full interview of GW). Off the top of my head, Isaiah Epps, Michael Beasley, Rudy Gay, and Darnell Dodson all had their college decisions made or influenced heavily by their AAU coach, and none of them were positive for the Terps. Gary is also known to have bad relations with powerful AAU coach Curtis Malone, who runs DC Assault, the club team for Nolan Smith, Michael Beasley, Josh Hairston, Jeff Green, Keith Bogans, and quite a few more top prospects (Malone, incidentally, looks absolutely nothing like what you would imagine). Obviously, Gary doesn't like any of the above. He has met with Malone recently to clear the air, but nothing is guaranteed.

And then there's guys like Sonny Vaccaro, the sneaker mob boss famous for, well, nearly every big decision involving a high school basketball player in the last 15 years, including Brandon Jennings exodus to Europe for a year. Technically, he has no AAU affiliation, but he thrives off the system and has a gigantic influence on where recruits go to school, just based ond whether they are sponsored by Nike or Reebok, Adidas or Under Armor. Some shoe companies are recruiting prospects toward their brand from the ripe age of 10, as seen in the case of Justin Jenifer.

I don't claim to know everything - really, anything - about how to solve this problem, but it's getting out of control. AAU and shoe deals have become the controlling aspect in recruiting, even more than the player's honest-to-god preference in some cases. Of course, some form of club needs to remain, but it needs to be significantly reduced in influence. But that's my opinion - I'm sure there are others that wouldn't mind seeing the system remain as it is. How do you see it? Is AAU too strong? Do high school coaches just need to adapt to the new system? Are shoe companies doing too much too early? I'd like to hear some opinions on this.

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The Problem is not with AAU

there is no reason to think a high school basketball coach would have a kid’s best interests in heart any more than an AAU coach…nonsense…there are good AAU coaches and bad ones…and there are good High School coaches and bad ones

The real problem with the recruiting world and with highschool/aau dynamic is with third parties (agent types, shoe companies what have you) who influence the kids as a way of enriching themselves, and as a way of transfering wealth (through dinners, hotels, surgeries, etc.) on the kids. That’s what damages the game. That what is driving these bad decisions.

In short, there has to be a way to take profiteers out of the equation. I really think all that needs to be done to accomplish that is to make an example out of the UConns, USC’s and Coach Cal’s of the world

by tiimbitz4786 on May 20, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

also might i add you left out curtis malone's

criminal history…he’s clearly one of the bad apples in aau ball

by tiimbitz4786 on May 20, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I pretty much hate AAU

I think high school coaches can have an influence, yes, but AAU is clearly the problem and the thing feeding these bad coaches that you talk about Timbitz. The AAU coaches can be influenced by money, coaching opportunities, etc. where that isn’t true for high school coaches. I wish the NCAA would declare any player who plays for an AAU team ineligible for college…that is how much I loath the AAU circuit and how much I wish they’d shut down these sleazebags who have such influence over over these young kids. AAU has taken the fun out of college basketball, as I think a lot of kids don’t even end up at the school that the most want to go to, but rather go where their AAU person directs them, which as we learned from Gary this year, can often involve money, endorsements, etc.

by Dave Tucker on May 20, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

aau would not be a problem

if the coaches were not allowed to profit off of the kids…there are common sense rules that could prevent these things from happening

i.e.:

aau coaches are forbidden from becoming assitant coaches unless they are out of aau for 2-3 years (this will cause the best aau coaches to go to high school in order to become college coaches)
aau coaches should also be forbidden from having any contact with professional sports agents

there’s two…but the problem isn’t just aau…it’s the system around aau

i don’t except the premise that an aau coach is more prone to be corruptable than a high school coach…i just think there are more eyes on high school coaches…so the solution to me is to put more eyes on aau

by tiimbitz4786 on May 20, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

so..

can someone tell me the story behind Curtis Malone and/or Sonny Vaccaro (i have read the Wapo article)

by word2bigbird on May 20, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Well

Malone reportedly offered some recruits to Gary, or something along those lines, which Gary instantly rebuked. Even if it never went that far, Gary knows Malone’s rep as a shady guy, and has never reached out to him. In turn, Malone would steer DC Assault guys away from Maryland.

As for Vaccaro, he’s more general. Do a quick google and you’ll find tons of links on him. He made Nike what it is today, signed MJ to a shoe deal, then left for Adidas, built them up, then left for Reebok and built them up. He pretty much created the sneaker wars.

by Ben Broman on May 20, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

AAU

AAU coaches are coaches that either have their kid on their team or they dont have the personality to fit in with the highschool basketball program. In highschool I believe you learn to have a passion for your team, school, coach, and basketball. AAU is just like Steve Spurrier’s “Fun and Gun” offense. This doesnt teach kids anything. High School is where you can grow and develop character and a love for basketball. We see a lot of talent go out there and just fizzle out because the kids really never had the passion and love for the game. They just did it because they thought they could be like Lebron and make millions. One of the worst things I have seen young AAU players do, is start to disrespect their Highschool coach and teamates and not care about anyone but themselves during the winter season. This is why I think UMD got something very special in Terrence Ross.
Now not all AAU is like this but this is what I have learned about the negative side to AAU.

by Mikey R on May 20, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Read the last sentence

I was saying this is the negative side to AAU and not all of it is like that. Mainly the top teir AAU teams are not like that.

by Mikey R on May 20, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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