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With Dino Gregory's Return on the Horizon, Terps Have a Decision to Make

What to do, what to do? Image via InsideMDSports' Flickr

There's plenty to talk about from the very informative, slightly impressive loss against Villanova yesterday, but I think the most interesting discussion to have pertains to the future. After missing a good part of the beginning of the year for some sort of academic misconduct, Gregory will return to the lineup on Saturday, just in time to face off against the Eastern Kentucky Colonels (wait a second, they named their team after the founder of a fast food resturant that sells fried chicken?).

There's a problem, though: where does Maryland put him? It's not necessarily a bad problem to have, but it is a problem. Maryland has a couple of ways to attack it, though all have their pluses and minuses.

First off, he could replace Jordan Williams at the center spot. That was Gary's plan at the beginning of the season and Dino has reportedly been great in practice, so getting a starting spot could be a likelihood. If he were to get a starting spot, one could argue he should take it from someone inexperienced and young - that is, Williams.

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Really, though, I have trouble seeing that being good for the team, or it happening. Williams just had a double-double (19 and 12) against the third-best team in the country. I like Dino, but he's not going to start putting those up anytime soon unless he's gotten a lot better over the offseason. It also puts Maryland in the same position they were in last year: center-less. Williams provides size, and you can't put a price on that.

Another option would be to slide Landon Milbourne down to the three, Sean Mosley down to the two, and Eric Hayes over to the bench. This would allow Maryland to keep their most talented players on the court as the starters while sliding Hayes into the spot he was most effective in last year.

Unfortunately, Hayes has been one of the best players on the team, even better than Greivis Vasquez, and I'm not sure I'd like him to be on the bench that much. He's the only consistent shooter, and a calming presence. Not to mention Landon's natural disadvantages of speed at the 3; he's too quick for most 4s, but not quick enough to cover most ACC 3s.I want him to see some time there, but not a lot, at least not until he proves he's not a defensive liability.

Then there's the option of simply bench Milbourne instead, or possibly even Vasquez, neither of which I endorse. If this team is to go far, Vasquez will probably be the one that carries them there (if he ever heats up). Milbourne, despite his problems, has shown an ability to be consistent offensively; Maryland needs his usual point output.

Of course, they could always just do the obvious, after reading over all of these: keep Dino on the bench. It's tough to qualify how good or bad that would be because we're yet to see this year's Dino, but unless he's extremely better, Maryland can probably afford to keep him on the bench. Gary did plan to have Dino starting, but he's yet to do that, and Williams has proved his worth. Besides, having an energetic, experienced big man off the bench is a commodity Maryland doesn't have right now.

It's also important to note that Gary Williams (like all coaches, actually) doesn't put as much stock into the starting lineup as other people (mostly, fans) do. They care more about the "finishers" - those in at the end of the game - than the starters. Still, it's rather unorthodox to not have the best lineup on the floor for the tip, and it provides a snapshot to the depth chart.

Regardless of how it plays out, Dino will steal a lot of minutes from Milbourne, Williams, and James Padgett. There's no reason not to rotate another talented guy into the front court, and whether he starts or not is probably irrelevant - the minutes received would likely be the same either way. As I said above, though, it's a good way to see people's standing and it's definitely fun to talk about.

So, any opinions?

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I don't think there is a decision

I don’t see how Gary can take Jordan out of the starting 5 spot. No way Dino does as well as Jordan has. If Jordan really struggles, fine, I can see switching him out. But he just double-doubled the #3 team in the country. As a freshman!

I really think Gary has to consider benching Vasquez, even for a game, and starting Hayes, Landon, Jordan, Mosley, and Dino.

by Dave Tucker on Dec 7, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

Forgot to say

I think Dino will be #1 or 2 off the bench, stealing time from Jin Soo, Padgett and maybe some of the guards (Bowie and Tucker).

by Dave Tucker on Dec 7, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Dino will take Choi's time

Now ideally if GV was hitting his shots then I would love a Williams, Dino, Landon, Mosley, and GV line up. Until that point though we need hayes on the court. So I guess what im really saying is GV needs to play better.

by ccrun1800 on Dec 7, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

The way everyone is playing right now...

I’d go Williams, Dino, Landon, Mosley, Hayes. Now thats a killer lineup.

But we gotta give GV the chance to get back on track. I think he’ll find his game again at Comcast.

by kckb8 on Dec 7, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

J-Dub

Jordan did have a double-double against Villanova, but there were an UNBELIEVABLE amount of shots put up, especially by ‘Nova, leading to more defensive rebounds. And who’s gonna get those boards? Our center, of course.

That said, I was quite impressed with the fire that he showed on the court. During stoppages of play, you could really see the tenacity in his eyes.

I am not trying to undermine his performance, because he played amazing, even at the charity stripe. He will definitely stay as a starter. But we can’t get too carried away with the double-double.

However, one place we can get carried away is with Mose…now HE was spectacular.

by kckb8 on Dec 7, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting thought about Vasquez; that might be what’s needed to shake him up a little. While I love the guy, he seems to have an inordinate amount of free reign from Gary to do whatever he likes on the court with a little or no consequence.

by mariolucasforthree on Dec 7, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

You know

Papa Gary might “experiment” a little these next few games. He might start Dino in place of a number of people and see how they react. and come ACC time he’ll stick with the best line up. maybe?

by word2bigbird on Dec 7, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

I hope that's the plan

Makes perfect sense. Six games, probably three different lineups.

by Ben Broman on Dec 7, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

ARE U GUYS Crazy

Vasquez, Mosley, Landon, Williams and Dino hands down !!!!!!!!

Don't play with MY TERPS

by Jaybezel2 on Dec 7, 2009 6:11 PM EST reply actions  

No question in my mind

… that this is the right answer. Eric Hayes is only good when he’s getting open shots, no other time. I think Mosely and Williams have earned their starting spots by far for the rest of their time as Terrapins. Dino and Padgett and Williams can all play 4 and 5 and Millbourne is looking overmatched in the 4 early on in this season… let him play his natural spot (3) where he can dominate smaller guys.

by mmford10 on Dec 7, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Eric Hayes is only good when he’s getting open shots, no other time

This might be the most ludicrous statement I’ve seen this year (among the usual host of ludicrous statements MD fans make in these settings over the course of a season). Hayes, if you’ll notice, is the only consistent outside shooter we have, and as such has been keyed on by opposing defenses. Yet his scoring average is up from last year. Why? Because he’s no longer dependent on only getting a wide open look off the pass. Against Indiana most of his points were on drives to the basket, not easy shots. He also runs the offense well and does a good job setting up teammates while rarely turning it over. His defense is usually solid, though his lack of strength still hurts him in terms of fighting through screens and boxing out. But overall, he does much more than make open shots.

by jellisjenius on Dec 8, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

jellsjenius

Again, i agree with you.

i find your insight to be quite accurate with what I have observed as well.

Although Eric does have his fair share of 3-pointers off open looks, I can remember at least five separate occasions when he has driven to the basket and hit his now-trademark floater, or dished the ball off to someone else.

by kckb8 on Dec 8, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

the obvious answer is...

Williams, Dino, Milbourne, Vasquez… and then let Hayes and Mosely trade off starting. Mosely and Hayes have been our most consistent scorers, but Hayes is the Sr and adds alot of experience out there. Mosely still has alot to prove, hopefully he will. As long as we have a nice rotation of GV, Mosely and Hayes going this seems like a nice problem to have.

by Sephtical on Dec 7, 2009 6:39 PM EST reply actions  

NO WAY

your gonna put SM on the bench. NO WAY. I cant even put into words how flabbergasted I am you said that.

by word2bigbird on Dec 7, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, without a doubt..

SM has been by FAR our best player this year.

by mariolucasforthree on Dec 7, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

The truly obvious...

You keep the starting lineup as is and you put Dino in the bench rotation, Then if he outplays Williams, you start him. Avoids all speculation, hurt feelings (team chemistry), and it doesn’t detract from your guard rotation.

by Jeffro78 on Dec 7, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

agreed

let the minutes decide. You don’t reward a guy who just became eligible after a suspension for a mysterious academic infraction w/ an automatic starting spot his first game back.

It’s a nice discussion thread but really a no brainer on how it plays out. Great to have some depth to keep Choi off the floor though…I like the guy but he has been truly lost out there.

by jaypee on Dec 8, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Need rebounding

I think Hayes needs to move to the bench, and Milbourne needs to move back to his natural position. We’ve spent the last year and a quarter getting killed on the boards. Jordan Williams is a tremendous rebounder (over 0.35/min, which is really, really good, especially for a freshman), but we should be playing two bigs like a normal team. Yes, we’ve got good depth at the 1-3, but we’re not quick enough to go with three guards all the time. Milbourne is an above average SF, but a below average PF. Playing him out of position is like playing a big hitting 2B at first base – you lose all of the value. Moving Milbourne back to SF, and putting Gregory in at PF, gives the Terps better than average rebounding at EVERY position. Hayes has proven he is good coming off the bench, and he can spell either Vasquez or SM.

by Brooklyn D on Dec 7, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

Isn't it great...

to have this problem (i.e which potential starters to bench) like most good teams do? Williams is really the only true center we have, Dino is a natural 4, Milbourne could really blossom at 3, Mosely at 2 and GV at 1. Hayes is the classic 6th man ( steadying influence, deadeye shooter). Wow, what a lineup!

Of course, it’s all for naught if GV doesn’t light up his game come January. Five good players and one star can go far in the ACC. Six good players, not so much.

by retlag on Dec 7, 2009 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

first of all there is no way williams is going to the bench. milbourne will probably move to small forward with dino taking the power forward spot and hayes becomes the 6th man. as badly as vasquez is playing there is no way at this time or anytime soon that he doesn’t start..

by fkterp on Dec 8, 2009 7:14 AM EST reply actions  

Brooklyn D is right

We need rebound, second chance opportunities are killing both on D and on offense. Other teams get too many chances to score, and we dont get any.

Thats why we need a rebounding presence along with Jwill.

by word2bigbird on Dec 8, 2009 7:42 AM EST reply actions  

Need Hayes as a starter

Personally, I’d like to have a player who can be consistent from the 3 on the floor without having to take a timeout to get him out there. It gives us more options on offense as well as gives JWill more space to operate

by jaypee on Dec 8, 2009 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

I agree that we need him...

But he did excel coming off the bench last year, and as Gary put it he seemed to be able to mentally process the flow of the game when he started on the bench, so when he came in he was able to execute better.

I could see it either way, but if Dino is as improved as we’ve been hearing, Hayes as 6th man seems like the most probable scenario. I wouldn’t mind a lineup of:

GV-SM-LM-DG-JW

with EH and JP the first two off the bench, AB and CT playing anywhere from 10-20 mpg depending on matchups. I also have a feeling Choi’s minutes will be extremely limited. Goins is the wild card b/c he hasn’t been healthy (so it’s hard to evaluate him) and he’s the only legit BIG big man we have aside from JWill.

by jellisjenius on Dec 8, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

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